Armstrong's Future (2 Viewers)

TrueSkyBlueLiam · Oct 5, 2015

What a striker Adam Armstrong is. I said last week all he needed was the service. He got that service from Fortune on Saturday and proved exactly what he can do when given the chance. But with Newcastle seriously struggling in the Premier League, the question has to be raised about his future. His parent club have a 24 hour release clause in his contract which can be utilized at any time. So for this week's Cooks Question, i want you to be impartial. Forget that you're a Coventry City fan. As a neutral, would you recall Armstrong. Can he cut it in the big league? In my opinion, i think it's too soon. League 1 is completely different from the Premier League. A different tempo, a different calibre of defender to beat. Yes, he's performed in League 1, but i think he should be allowed to stay in League 1 for the rest of the season. If Newcastle go down, he should be given his chance next season, much like Andy Carroll was given a shot last time they were relegated. If not, they should loan him to a mid table Championship side. Whats your view? Leave a reply and i'll read it out my show . Sports Lounge kicks off at 10am every Thursday on 98.6 Hillz FM. If you miss a show, catch up on my new mixcloud page, mixcloud.com/liamcook

Speedies_Chips · Oct 5, 2015

haven't we covered this topic already?

Mcbean · Oct 5, 2015

If McClown is sacked whihc he will - he will be recalled immediately as a new manager will want to make a change - when you see the leagues top scorer in a League 1 club - he's championship level - The Geordies are virtually in the Championship again so all the expensive guys will leave !

skybluebeduff · Oct 5, 2015

Mcbean said:
If McClown is sacked whihc he will - he will be recalled immediately as a new manager will want to make a change - when you see the leagues top scorer in a League 1 club - he's championship level - The Geordies are virtually in the Championship again so all the expensive guys will leave !

He won't be recalled in an instance, Mike Ashley has not invested £50mill on players this summer, to then think screw it i'll pin Newcastles hope on an 18y old reserve player.

It's common sense.

Peter Beardsley sent him here, not McClown.

Covstu · Oct 5, 2015

I would like to think he stays for the season, he would struggle in the prem without decent service and if they go down they have a ready made championship player to start the season with!

ready_96 · Oct 5, 2015

If they recall him it will ruin his progression. He's banging them in for Coventry, he's happy to be playing every week at a senior level in front of a 12 000 large crowd. They need to build him up carefully....not let him play 10 games in league 1 and automatically assume he's the next Alan Shearer.
I'd let him stay till January, no matter what happens. Then either look to give him a months loan out to a championship side and see if he can cut it at the higher level, bigger crowds more pressure....Or you let him stay here, help us most likely get promoted if he carries on this form and reassess at the end of the season. You never know we could be playing against this lad next season in the championship...

We'll_live_and_die · Oct 5, 2015

He's a finisher. The boy can find the back of the net regardless of the league. He's a bit of a Callum Wilson/Jamie Vardy for me. He can step up the plate regardless of the league/competition.

no_loyalty · Oct 5, 2015

I really hope Armstrong stays injury free

skybluebeduff · Oct 5, 2015

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp.../newcastle-united-boss-says-coventry-10197663

He's staying put.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Oct 5, 2015

Rich said:
He's a finisher. The boy can find the back of the net regardless of the league. He's a bit of a Callum Wilson/Jamie Vardy for me. He can step up the plate regardless of the league/competition.

Respectfully disagree entirely......he'd get swallowed up in the PL at present.......great future prospect but needs to learn & hone his craft

skybluebeduff · Oct 5, 2015

From Mowbray:

Put it into context really, he’s an 18-year old boy who needs to develop his game. The qualities he has hurt defenders in this league but at this moment in time, I don’t think he’d be able to do that to Premier League defenders.“He needs to keep doing what he’s doing. He listens to game-plans and tries to understand the different roles he can play which will be important for his development.
“Of course, Adam is away on international duty for the next two games but when he comes back, we’ll continue to work with him and make him a better player.”

bringbackrattles · Oct 5, 2015

Message to Newcastle : What were you thinking of sending a wet behind the ears young lad here to us ? He can't run,all his goals have been lucky,he's as slow as a constipated sloth,us fans can't stand him,and he gets booed every game. But look we'll do you a favour and we'll keep him till the end of the season and try and get something out of him okay ? Yes we are charitable like that here at Coventry,we will look after him as best as we can which isn't easy having to get him out of night clubs every night though ! So get back to us at the end of this campaign ,and who knows we may even be playing you next season in the Championship ?

ajsccfc · Oct 5, 2015

I remember a few weeks ago someone on here was telling us Armstrong had been 'found out' because he didn't score for a game or two. Magic.

TrueSkyBlueLiam · Oct 6, 2015

ajsccfc said:
I remember a few weeks ago someone on here was telling us Armstrong had been 'found out' because he didn't score for a game or two. Magic.

I said on BBC last week, Armstrong is like an iPhone. He's bloody brilliant, but he needs the service to work. He got the service on Saturday. Fortune is the perfect partner for Armstrong cus he's creative, experienced and he actually remembers he has teammates

Warwickhunt · Oct 6, 2015

TrueSkyBlueLiam said:
I said on BBC last week, Armstrong is like an iPhone. He's bloody brilliant, but he needs the service to work. He got the service on Saturday. Fortune is the perfect partner for Armstrong cus he's creative, experienced and he actually remembers he has teammates

Absoloutly correct! its the support that he gets helps him score goals however he does have a skill set that will glean him goals without help, he will become one of the greats in the game if looked after carefully

BackRoomRummermill · Oct 6, 2015

Barring a really crazy set of events Arma will see out his loan time. To be honest there is more chance Mogga will go than him at present.

TrueSkyBlueLiam · Oct 8, 2015

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Gazolba · Oct 9, 2015

How many star English strikers are there in the Premier League? With so many foreign managers having a low opinion of English talent, it will be difficult for him to get a starting spot. Maybe he will make it with a lower-half club but I cannot see him ending up at one of the top teams unless he really sets the league on fire.

SlowerThanPlatt · Oct 15, 2015

Newcastle United boss Steve McClaren has revealed to the Newcastle Chronicle that he has no plans to recall Adam Armstrong from his loan spell at Coventry City.

The 18-year-old has hit in eight goals in nine matches since joining the Sky Blues and Tony Mowbray has admitted he fears losing the Geordie unless the Magpies pick up their Premier League form.

However, when asked if he would recall Armstrong to solve his side's goal-scoring concerns, McClaren said:“No, no, not yet. He’s better getting football and he’s at a good place to do that.”

Instead he is happy to keep tabs on the England Youth international rather than bring him back to St James' Park.

He added: “I have spoken to Tony Mowbray and he does like him. He set off like a house on fire after going there. He is in good hands at Coventry with Tony.

“I am delighted he’s got recognised for his performances.”

fernandopartridge · Oct 15, 2015

ajsccfc said:
I remember a few weeks ago someone on here was telling us Armstrong had been 'found out' because he didn't score for a game or two. Magic.

Yes, and then somehow we'd gone before the Fleetwood win to being a team who relied too heavily on him. Yet another good week in the Sky Blue Bipolar foundation.

rupert_bear · Oct 15, 2015

Armstrong will be here all season IF he wants to, it'll be down to him if he stays here or chances his arm a league higher for 6 months, hopefully by January we will be clear at the top and he fancies a league winners medal in his pocket, he won't be getting many of them at Newcastle !!

covcity4life · Oct 15, 2015

i agere rupert, v good chance he will be here alls eason long

shmmeee · Oct 15, 2015

Besides if he wants to play championship football he can wait until September and choose between Newcastle and us

Otis · Oct 15, 2015

ajsccfc said:
I remember a few weeks ago someone on here was telling us Armstrong had been 'found out' because he didn't score for a game or two. Magic.

I do think most though said he had just been marked out of games, after opposition teams setting out a plan to nullify him.

Also you have to remember, those 2 games were when we'd just lost Maddison and it took us a couple of games or so to re-adjust afterwards.

He was very little threat in 2 games, but that wasn't in anyway down to his inability.

covcity4life · Oct 15, 2015

Otis said:
I do think most though said he had just been marked out of games, after opposition teams setting out a plan to nullify him.

Also you have to remember, those 2 games were when we'd just lost Maddison and it took us a couple of games or so to re-adjust afterwards.

He was very little threat in 2 games, but that wasn't in anyway down to his inability.

sorry otis but you panicked big time last week

just chill and realise cov are a different beast under mowbray

Otis · Oct 15, 2015

Yeah, I panicked. Lol.

Huckerby · Oct 15, 2015

So, assume that we get promoted.

Do you think it would be unrealistic to work out a permanent deal for the lad? What about if Newcastle were relegated also?

stupot07 · Oct 15, 2015

Huckerby said:
So, assume that we get promoted.

Do you think it would be unrealistic to work out a permanent deal for the lad? What about if Newcastle were relegated also?

Yes, we couldn't afford him and Newcastle won't want to sell him.

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Juggernaut · Oct 15, 2015

He's far too raw for the PL. He needs a full season playing.

Sick Boy · Oct 15, 2015

Huckerby said:
So, assume that we get promoted.

Do you think it would be unrealistic to work out a permanent deal for the lad? What about if Newcastle were relegated also?

Massively unrealistic. We will have one of the lowest budgets in the league

Astute · Oct 15, 2015

Juggernaut said:
He's far too raw for the PL. He needs a full season playing.

That would be like saying Wilson won't score in the Championship........or the Prem. Or saying that Clarke won't score many goals this season.

Armstrong is skillful enough to score goals in the Prem. The better the side he would play in the better he would do. Yes with more games he should improve. But he certainly doesn't lack confidence.

Juggernaut · Oct 15, 2015

Astute said:
That would be like saying Wilson won't score in the Championship........or the Prem. Or saying that Clarke won't score many goals this season.

Armstrong is skillful enough to score goals in the Prem. The better the side he would play in the better he would do. Yes with more games he should improve. But he certainly doesn't lack confidence.

Wilson was 22 when he made the step up though, not an 18 year old kid. He wasn't very expierinced granted, but mentally he was a lot more mature. He's not as good as the three strikers Newcastle have upfront at the moment, and to be honest he's not really anywhere close

Houchens Head · Oct 15, 2015

Have to agree with Astute. Wilson wouldn't be out of place in many top teams in the Prem (when he returns and is match fit), and I can see some bigger clubs coming in for him.

Astute · Oct 15, 2015

What is wrong with Armstrong mentally?

He is experienced for his age and lack of league games. He has been brought through the ranks of the England squads. He has vision. Or how could he score from the half way line, all around the penalty area as well as inside it. He has confidence. He has skills most strikers would love. And he certainly has pace. He is the type of player that defenders hate to play against.

Have you any good points why he wouldn't score in the Prem?

Juggernaut · Oct 15, 2015

Astute said:
What is wrong with Armstrong mentally?

He is experienced for his age and lack of league games. He has been brought through the ranks of the England squads. He has vision. Or how could he score from the half way line, all around the penalty area as well as inside it. He has confidence. He has skills most strikers would love. And he certainly has pace. He is the type of player that defenders hate to play against.

Have you any good points why he wouldn't score in the Prem?

He's doing all the things you say in the third tier of English football, there's a huge gap between league 1 and the Prem.

And I can tell he's not ready for the Prem by his all round game, he gets away with it at this level. He wouldn't get away with it in the PL. eventually he will ply his trade there, he's just not ready yet, in my opinion.

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