Grendel
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Its dreadful as you say the station walkway makes it look normal
It has created lots of dead end streets which lead to nowhere and created parcels of awkward land. Look at the difference in the area around the station since they broke the barrier, much much better.
I want to keep the route, I just think the raised sections are very ugly and act as a psychological barrier for people to cross, especially pedestrians. Have thought about whether you could split the junctions so some only go into the city centre while others only connect to the ring road.To lose the ring road would be a bit like Brexit,IMO
An idealistic act of folly.
Maybe the question is "why is it unique?"I would personally keep the ring-road. It is unique.
"Strangling the city centre" is not something i necessarily agree with.... it defines it well, and given that city centres appear to be "dying" generally, i think there is plenty of current city centre space which could/should be revamped as a higher priority.
Must be saving the site for another pound shop, certainly don't want anything fun that might bring visitors into the city centrePlans for a huge city centre entertainment venue and bar have been refused by Coventry City Council. A company had made a bid to open a 'high-end' leisure facility at West Orchards Shopping Centre.
Smithford Social would have been based on the second floor of the former Debenhams store on Smithford Way. A planning document revealed that the proposed venue would have had a bowling alley and an indoor golf course.
Must be saving the site for another pound shop, certainly don't want anything fun that might bring visitors into the city centre
Plans refused for golf centre and bowling alley in former Debenhams store
It would have been based on the second floor of the former Debenhams storewww.coventrytelegraph.net
Town desperately needs things that attract people in. Yes West Orchards is a bit far away but where else could you put something that size?
Is there some sort of activity type bar at Cathedral Lanes?
Yeah there's a battle bar there now. Haven't been in but has stuff in there.
Then there's Teezers up by the Sky Blue Tavern for Crazy Golf.
It’s not really the same. Just a room with axe throwing a couple of tiny crazy golf holes and things like that. Nothing like the scale of Teezers.
It isn't actually that far from the Skydome etc.
Ah is it no good then?
I went axe throwing and beer pong. The beer pong was pretty crap, could’ve just stayed at home. The AR darts looks quite good. Axe throwing was OK but expensive for what it is and there’s someone there sucking all the fun out. A mate got kicked out for throwing the axes too hard.
Places are lined up to open. Sainsbury's and a coffee place. They are advertising for staff now, but not sure when they are going to open. Once they do, it will be much better. At the moment it's just a big open space.I went on the train to reading, 1st visit to cov station since Covid - have to say that the new station building is abysmal - Not even able to buy a cup of coffee there - need to walk down to the old part where the starbucks is still open
better access, but once there it is poor
Hmm. St Mary's Street in Cardiff did it like that...But that’s Coventrys problem IMO. The town centre isn’t that big but there’s no concentration of bars really that I can see. A couple by the sky dome/soon street, a couple by high street/cathedral lanes, a couple by the bill yard, a couple elsewhere. Needs concentrating so you don’t have to go trekking through darkened precinct to go between them. And means there’s little street life.
Hmm. St Mary's Street in Cardiff did it like that...
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It's a bloody war zone there now!
Well what it did in Cardiff was make the street a living hell, as opposed to the nice atmosphere across the city centre it used to have. That also drove out certain elements from going out for a meal or a drink, and therefore exacerbated the social disorder.I mean if you want to ban or limit alcohol sales then that’s a whole other thing. But as we’re allowing them and drunk people already exist I actually think concentrating them a bit would be easier to police
Well what it did in Cardiff was make the street a living hell, as opposed to the nice atmosphere across the city centre it used to have. That also drove out certain elements from going out for a meal or a drink, and therefore exacerbated the social disorder.
Coventry goes (went? Haven't actually been out in Coventry since pre Covid!) the other way, it really does become a ghost town after a certain hour and that gives the feelings of dark, oppression, sinister unknown menace... even if it isn't there.
There's a happy balance, and shoving everything in the same place is not it!
There's a difference between life and drunkenness, and civil war. As I say, Cardiff is a fine example!You can have a couple of ateas aimed at different demographics. It’s just all very sparse right now and especially the precinct in the middle just feels as you say dark and sinister.
But I think a bit of life and drunkenness isn’t the end of the world in one of those places. That’s what some people want. Just like others want a bit more restraint. Can’t we have both?
There's a difference between life and drunkenness, and civil war. As I say, Cardiff is a fine example!
Rather than divide into areas (ghettos?) the better thing would be to offer one or two options on the tour from around Cathedral Lanes and that side, to Spon Street. So where BHS used to be would be a fine site for some kind of pub / club for example. Then you get people moving, and you get balancing out where the drunkards are among other slightly less drunkards, and it becomes alive without the threat. The threat in Coventry City Centre is more perceived than anything, so you need to get people moving around there - safety of crowds kind of thing.
As opposed to a fancy dress version of Beirut.
It may be nostalgic, but my time remembering Cardiff at its best was before devolution at least, and it is the same kind of size as Coventry. It used to have the Astoria etc on the main shopping street, so would be like having a major club where Debenhams lived or somewhere, meant the life was there all the time.Cardiff is a capital and maybe a hen do destination (?) though. I’m not sure Coventry would be the same. Closest we’ve got weirdly is Far Gosford which feels threatening as all hell.
I went on the train to reading, 1st visit to cov station since Covid - have to say that the new station building is abysmal - Not even able to buy a cup of coffee there - need to walk down to the old part where the starbucks is still open
better access, but once there it is poor
You can have a couple of ateas aimed at different demographics. It’s just all very sparse right now and especially the precinct in the middle just feels as you say dark and sinister.
But I think a bit of life and drunkenness isn’t the end of the world in one of those places. That’s what some people want. Just like others want a bit more restraint. Can’t we have both?
Oi!!!It may be nostalgic, but my time remembering Cardiff at its best was before devolution at least, and it is the same kind of size as Coventry. It used to have the Astoria etc on the main shopping street, so would be like having a major club where Debenhams lived or somewhere, meant the life was there all the time.
I blame Otis for Far Gosford Street. I've ventured into FarGo a few times after he recommended it when it opened - always been deserted. In daytime, the shops were closed and seemingly opened at random - at night, it was indeed threatening as hell! I just don't rate the brewery there either, although others seem to.
Before it got 'gentrified' I remember going into a pub along there, and the barman sodded off and left us to it(!)
Beirut is a great night out…..There's a difference between life and drunkenness, and civil war. As I say, Cardiff is a fine example!
Rather than divide into areas (ghettos?) the better thing would be to offer one or two options on the tour from around Cathedral Lanes and that side, to Spon Street. So where BHS used to be would be a fine site for some kind of pub / club for example. Then you get people moving, and you get balancing out where the drunkards are among other slightly less drunkards, and it becomes alive without the threat. The threat in Coventry City Centre is more perceived than anything, so you need to get people moving around there - safety of crowds kind of thing.
As opposed to a fancy dress version of Beirut.
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