bigfatronssba
Well-Known Member
Can you give me an example of where our support has dropped off quickly?
They are. Our support will drop off a lot quicker than Leicester, Forest etc if we have a couple of poor seasons. That's a fact. Our support has never had a big hardcore following.
We were the 17th best supported club of the 92 historically before sisu took over , above leicester , Derby, Forest.I’ve never known another club where some supporters consistently say how awfully we’re supported (without clarification as to why), and also say how wonderful our local rivals are.
Frankly it’s very weird
Leicester seem to maintain decent support when they're on the slide. Look at what they got when they slipped into league 1 briefly not that long ago.Any proof of these claims ?
Until sisu took over coventry had a higher all time average than Derby, Forest and Leicester and had spent less time in the top flight than all of them
How big ? Any club will sell out in the premier league to start with. Under what circumstances will be consistently selling out in the championship ?We were the 17th best supported club of the 92 historically before sisu took over , above leicester , Derby, Forest.
Our potential is bigger than people realise
Leicester seem to maintain decent support when they're on the slide. Look at what they got when they slipped into league 1 briefly not that long ago.
Derbys support in league 1 is absolutely phenomenal. We would never get anywhere near that if we were relegated .
That's not a criticism of our supporters. It's exceptional support from their fans.
Leicester were purchased by their owners in league 1 , and were only 4 years outside the top flight .Leicester seem to maintain decent support when they're on the slide. Look at what they got when they slipped into league 1 briefly not that long ago.
Derbys support in league 1 is absolutely phenomenal. We would never get anywhere near that if we were relegated .
That's not a criticism of our supporters. It's exceptional support from their fans.
Crazy and unworkable,Next season - Sell ST's behind the goal, with the stipulation that should demand not warrant it each ticket will be moved to the same seat +4 blocks. Block 10 Row BB seat 4 becomes Block 14 Row BB seat 4. Or as close too.
The provisional seating area only opens for sale once demand is realised that the south stand will be open.
Next next season - add safe standing to south stand
A significant part of the percentage lost is due to the huge segregation in place until recently, added to the smaller but still significant corporate boxes not selling,Probably because even with our good crowds, we are 18th in percentage filled with 76%. The teams below us on that table; Wednesday, Birmingham, Blackburn and Cardiff all close parts of their ground. Stoke are the only side on the list below us who don't and their ground is very sparse with large sections of empty seats everywhere.
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Yep have to agree with that. I’m Tim my60s now but when i was younger I’d much rather stand on a terrace to watch a game rather than sit down. I’m pretty sure if you had standing there the younger fans would go for itSafe standing will be the key tbh, as soon as that section of the south is standing they'll all want to be there
It’s totally bizarre and seemingly because some people want to stand wherever they fancy it, and to hell with anyone else.More people need to stop worrying about joining in with or starting chants and JFDI. That's it. Everything else is massively over engineering it.
Instead we're talking about closing sections of the ground after two seasons of play off chasing with growing crowds. I am very confused!
Leicester seem to maintain decent support when they're on the slide. Look at what they got when they slipped into league 1 briefly not that long ago.
Derbys support in league 1 is absolutely phenomenal. We would never get anywhere near that if we were relegated .
That's not a criticism of our supporters. It's exceptional support from their fans.
A significant part of the percentage lost is due to the huge segregation in place until recently, added to the smaller but still significant corporate boxes not selling,
More people need to stop worrying about joining in with or starting chants and JFDI. That's it. Everything else is massively over engineering it.
Instead we're talking about closing sections of the ground after two seasons of play off chasing with growing crowds. I am very confused!
Our support steadily dwindled once we were relegated from the prem.You’d have to go back about 60 years to see Leicester getting 25k as a mid table/play off chasing second tier team
So where were their hardcore support when we had a higher all time average than them up until the sisu years ?Our support steadily dwindled once we were relegated from the prem.
What did Leicester get when they were in league 1 last time round ? More than we were getting in the championship. They didn't know they'd be promoted straight back. They have a decent hard core support.
We may well match that over time but as things stand we've got a bit to go.
When the demands there...
Will be about the same. Possibly a little less because we may lose some big name teams.
Our biggest attendances this season are Leicester, Wednesday, Birmingham, Norwich and Cardiff. We may lose 4 of those teams to promotion and relegation. Ideally Everton come down as that would sell out easily.
Our support steadily dwindled once we were relegated from the prem.
What did Leicester get when they were in league 1 last time round ? More than we were getting in the championship. They didn't know they'd be promoted straight back. They have a decent hard core support.
We may well match that over time but as things stand we've got a bit to go.
Depends on the success or lack of. It’s the same as the old “reduce the price to get them in” cobblers. People will pay whatever to watch a successful/winning team-same applies regarding kick off times etc.Do you honestly think we can sustain 26,000 home fans next season?
Let's not forget all the midweek and Sunday afternoon games we'll have next year.
Will be about the same. Possibly a little less because we may lose some big name teams.
Our biggest attendances this season are Leicester, Wednesday, Birmingham, Norwich and Cardiff. We may lose 4 of those teams to promotion and relegation. Ideally Everton come down as that would sell out easily.
We wouldn't have got over 20k regularly in league 1 every game had we the same results , even without sisu.I’m pretty sure they didn’t lose a home game all season in league 1. Easy to keep your support in those circumstances.
We’re currently getting higher crowds than they got when they won the Championship in 2014
Can you give the stats on that ?So where were their hardcore support when we had a higher all time average than them up until the sisu years ?
Most of our history we've had better support than them
How far back would you have to go see us getting 25k regularly ......in any division ?You’d have to go back about 60 years to see Leicester getting 25k as a mid table/play off chasing second tier team
Only Leicester and maybe Birmingham were because of the opposition though?Will be about the same. Possibly a little less because we may lose some big name teams.
Our biggest attendances this season are Leicester, Wednesday, Birmingham, Norwich and Cardiff. We may lose 4 of those teams to promotion and relegation. Ideally Everton come down as that would sell out easily.
The usable capacity for the ground is nowhere near 32k. Leicester we had sold out home and away ends and didn't even break 30k.Just over 4000 if the ground holds 32,609. That's more than the amount of home fans in the South Stand yesterday.
And yes, I know at least half of those 4000 are in corporate spaces.
I personally doubt that NOPM has had much to do with our attendances in the past few years, certainly not in the post-Covid era.Basically NOPM was bigger than people realised because this also coincides with sisu fucking off , the crowds were over 21000 before they came
Our attendances have risen quite sharply since sisu leftI personally doubt that NOPM has had much to do with our attendances in the past few years, certainly not in the post-Covid era.
And with the success on the pitch.Our attendances have risen quite sharply since sisu left
Can you give the stats on that ?
Only Leicester and maybe Birmingham were because of the opposition though?
Wednesday sold out because it was Boxing day. Cardiff attendance boosted by the cup run. Also vastly different away attendances between those.
The usable capacity for the ground is nowhere near 32k. Leicester we had sold out home and away ends and didn't even break 30k.
It also happened to coincide with our first genuine sniff of Premier League football in 20+ years. I doubt many fans would have stayed away for that playoff run if SISU were still in charge.Our attendances have risen quite sharply since sisu left
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