Not much of a plan if it relies on someone else failing IMO.
Why? I'm sure it's been many entrepeneur's strategies to watch other business fail then come in with a cheap price.
SISU aren't stupid. The poision from the chalic has been removed (CCC) so I think it'll be a lot easier for them.
Be nice to know what Sisu's actual plans are ?
Not much of a plan if it relies on someone else failing IMO.
Especially as the one that relied on ACL failing back fired miserably and set the club back for a few years.
It's more likely that Wasps are stretched and once the JR is out the way negotiate with CCFC for some sort of buy in.
The higher up the league we are the more leverage we will have.
Be nice to see some collaboration on tickets where all 3 clubs (CRFC CCFC & Wasps) discount each others tickets in joint packages.
The original plan only backfired because Wasps were willing to relocate a team 95 miles. Stretched? What about richest club in the world? You were saying that they had various income making them and ACL more profitable? Are you now changing your stance? What about the stadium naming right? Land Rover weren't it you said? Why join up with CRFC? There not within walking distance!
Why would CCFC need to offer a discount on Wasps tickets when you can get them free / cheap anyway?
I'll have to bow to your greater knowledge on this.
I know our local school gets tickets but not everybody in it. I know the headmistress pulls rank and always gets tickets.
My daughters rugby club gets them but not everybody so they take turns.
I don't like scratting around so I have bought a season ticket for both CCFC and Wasps.
I'm not saying Wasps are stretched. In fact with several income streams it's unlikely.
Don't have to bow to anything, wasn't it buy a ticket get one for a pound for everybody and they do BOGOF deals for everybody?
It's more likely that Wasps are stretched and once the JR is out the way negotiate with CCFC for some sort of buy in.
Also absolutely no reason why the clubs should discount each other's tickets.
OSB has already outlined why this won't happen, wasps can't sell shares in ACL due to the bonds.
Also absolutely no reason why the clubs should discount each other's tickets.
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Surely they can when the bond ends ?
Surely they can when the bond ends ?
Surely if CCFC did buy into ACL there would be mutual advantages in getting bums on seats for both games ?
Where will they get the £35m to pay back the bonds? On top of the £2m pa they need to cover the Interest payments?
Ccfc aren't going to buy into ACL. If they did and it was a 50:59 split it's likely each club would keep their own f&b's so it wounding benefit us if wasps got more fans, in fact we'd probably lose out in ticket revenue as you'd need to heavily discount in order to bums on both seats, wasps a throwing around free tickets and the gates aren't that high.
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If they have the money to pay the bonds off. If not they will have to try and sell another load of bonds to pay off the first lot!
We are in debt as well don't forget and that debt is increasing at more than £2M a year.
Don't get carried away that we are in a better position than they are and pull the strings.
We are in debt as well don't forget and that debt is increasing at more than £2M a year.
Don't get carried away that we are in a better position than they are and pull the strings.
Wasps are in debt and there debt is growing by the bond interest of £2 million a year.
What's your point?
We know we'll never pay our debt and interest back, wasps on the other hand don't have the same luxury.
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Wasps are in debt and there debt is growing by the bond interest of £2 million a year.
What's your point?
We know we'll never pay our debt and interest back, wasps on the other hand don't have the same luxury.
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It's deterring new owners of the club. We're paying the price for the debt OK just possibly not how you meant.
I wonder if our recent signings and upturn in form are a result of the London franchise being in the city?
SISU will know that the loyalty in the city is towards the football club and there is a greater chance of Wasps failing if ccfc are successful.
I'm sure that Wasps are not happy at all about our current success.
There is more chance that renting the stadium off a London franchise rugby club is also putting off potential new owners.
Saying that though, we aren't doing too badly at the moment, are we? How many people could have believed we'd be where we are in the league and have Joe Cole playing for us?
Why would Wasps not be happy for us ? The more fans we have the more money they make !!
Wasps can cream off CCFC success if they want to. Charge us silly rent and what could we do ?
To be honest if Wasps start to fail then we will make up the difference.
We need to either build a new stadium or work with Wasps.
To be realistic about it we only have the second option.
Surely their debt is only growing if they fail to pay the bond interest? So it's actually a stagnated debt not a growing debt. Unlike ours of course.
You have already exposed yourself as being self-centred and having no affinity with the city; if it wasn't for your car par you wouldn't be so desperate for them to succeed.
I want what's best for CCFC and as I see it, it's at the Ricoh, working with Wasps and no Sisu.
At the moment I've got 2 out of 3.
However. 3 out of 3 if Tim Fisher was got rid of.
Luckily for CCFC, Northampton fans didn't share your lack of morals, you'd have been outraged had the locals turned up thanks to free tickets from SISU.
You clearly don't want the best for CCFC, you only want what is best for your wallet.
I want what's best for CCFC and as I see it, it's at the Ricoh, working with Wasps and no Sisu.
At the moment I've got 2 out of 3.
However. 3 out of 3 if Tim Fisher was got rid of.
Not up to Fisher and it is not ultimately his decision. Wasps will only have us there as long as it is profitable to do so and that will always mean we miss out on money that otherwise we should get. It puts us at an immediate disadvantage compared to most other clubs.
A successful CCFC will be better for all local businesses, surely ?
Unless they are in Rugby (or Northampton) of course !!
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