stevefloyd
Well-Known Member
Its my lads now and hes 23...miserable c**t
Its my lads now and hes 23...miserable c**tThat was my default emotion when I was 17...
Fair enough, just wanted to point out it had a lot of spin behind the headline. It's not like he was about to be able to walk away for compensation.
Same with Dabo, he was only 1 year into a 3 year deal. It's not really spin though, it's common practice & shows commitment & reward from both player & club.
It is spin. 'Three year contract' is factually correct. But no mention that it will only keep him here for one extra year over his current deal. Being economical with the facts and only mentioning the ones that look good.
It is spin. 'Three year contract' is factually correct. But no mention that it will only keep him here for one extra year over his current deal. Being economical with the facts and only mentioning the ones that look good.
It’s how a lot of contracts are reported isn’t it?
It does mention in the article it keeps him until 2023.
It’s how a lot of contracts are reported isn’t it?
It does mention in the article it keeps him until 2023.
It is a 3 year contract, it replaces an existing 2 year contract. It isn't spin at all.
He's agreed a new three year deal, that's not spin.
It's a new deal. It's not an extension of his old one. It's a whole new one v
It says he's agreed to a new three year deal.
It's not an extension of his old one, it's a new one.
Why so desperate to moan?
We've just tied down arguably our best player & hottest prospect for an additional year each plus a further year option for Dabo (which you seem to be ignoring, now who's spinning!?)
The players have no doubt been rewarded financially & publicly stated how happy they are to be staying & yet you still find something to complain about...
I'm not. It's great news. I'm just pointing out the reality is it's keeping him hear for one year longer than he was already here for.
So if you took out a 3 year loan for, say £10000 and after year 1 you took out another 3 year loan for £10000, and used part of the money to pay off the previous loan, would you say that was a new loan or an extension to your previous loan?As I say if the govt says they're increasing spending by £100bn in a new bill, yet £80bn of that funding increase was already in a previous bill that is being superceded by the new one is the increase in spending £100bn or £20bn? What they're announcing is technically correct - the new bill puts forward a spending increase of £100bn above what it is now. But it's also spin because they know £80bn of it was already there and just decide not to remind people of that.
Same with this contract. New contract is for three years but he was already contracted for two of them. So three year contract is correct, but they're not reminding people he was already contracted for two thirds of that. That's the spin on the situation right there.
As pointed out it's impossible to offer him longer
At what point am I saying we could have offered him a longer deal?
It's still a fact that he's now contracted for a year longer than he was before he signed the new deal.
No-one has yet argued against how govt report in very similar terms and is always described as spin.
Spin is not being factually inaccurate, It's reporting something in a way that's factually accurate but makes something sound better.
So if you took out a 3 year loan for, say £10000 and after year 1 you took out another 3 year loan for £10000, and used part of the money to pay off the previous loan, would you say that was a new loan or an extension to your previous loan?
You might have a point if it was just an extension of his old deal.
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1.Are Sisu and CCFC the same thing?Is this a new contract or an extension?
There can be a few other things with a completely new contract SBD like new signing on fees, significant increase in weekly wages and so onI'm not arguing it isn't a new contract. I'm pointing out the reality of what that new contract actually means.
How many years repayments would I have left? Three years, compared to two if I hadn't taken out the new loan. Still got a loan to pay back either way though.
If you remortgaged your house and paid off your previous mortgage it's a completely new mortgage, but you'd have still been paying off a mortgage if you hadn't done that. The repayment period/amount might have altered but the reality is either way you'd still have a mortgage to pay.
Last week Bapaga was contracted to us until 2022. Now he's contracted to us until 2023. That is the reality of what the contract means.
There can be a few other things with a completely new contract SBD like new signing on fees, significant increase in weekly wages and so on
Anyone know how he’s getting out on loan ?
It's all part of the loan process, to be around a first team environment. A spell out of the team will show them what level they need to achieve to play week in week out. These periods of struggle will be better for their development than being in our U-23s.Started slowly, then made an impact and looked good, then dropped off the radar.
A bit like Danny Cashman.
Both need to push on if they are to have a succesful season.
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