I said the same about Stevenson.
Shipley plays more forward anyway ,but it was more an example of when you can see a player has reached his level . Or in Shipley case , probably past his level
Mate listen just get over it your in a small monitory,robins is getting us out of the deal just throw your hands up and admit you got it wrong
Changed his mind after a game against League 1 opposition at that.That would surely prove me right though in your eyes as Robins is such a terrible manager apparently?
I rate Sheaf, whether we sign him or not I think he'll have a very decent career. More than happy to be in the minority on that & only time will tell.
So, you've always rated Eccles then?
Or you changed your mind after literally 1 game?
I don’t think that about Sheaf. Technically he’s good, he’s good in the tackle and his passing is excellent, far ahead of Kelly and I’d argue James. Also he adds height in the middle, which I like. For me his failings are all experience based. Needs to play at a quicker level and looked like he was improving there, needs to play simpler in his own half, all coachable IMO.
There are much better players out there, saying that Sheaf was decent on the ball and could tackle but it was his never ending fuck ups he kept making that troubles me, the times he dropped us in the shit by giving the ball away in very dangerous places
For me it all depends whether he is smiling or notunpopular opinion but I could't care less he has gone back
I agree with this but I wasn't aware of the fitness issues that betterdays alludes toDisagree. Immediately maybe not, but as we have this model of sustaining the club through development I think he’s a good signing. Certainly better in that respect than Kelly or James. He topped all the stats in L1, just like Walsh. He’s young. There’s a player in there we can bring on. I’d put him significantly ahead of Eccles who I’d guess is the other option for a development CM.
I didn’t think Eccles had the strength tbf he was lightweight but has came on quickly it’s a matter of opinion I respect yours but for me he’s not worth £750kThat would surely prove me right though in your eyes as Robins is such a terrible manager apparently?
I rate Sheaf, whether we sign him or not I think he'll have a very decent career. More than happy to be in the minority on that & only time will tell.
So, you've always rated Eccles then?
Or you changed your mind after literally 1 game?
Wasn’t the game was around the 7th minChanged his mind after a game against League 1 opposition at that.
Don’t think you’re in a minority at all. Think a fair few of us think he will be a very good player, just a case of staying free from injury for most of the season.That would surely prove me right though in your eyes as Robins is such a terrible manager apparently?
I rate Sheaf, whether we sign him or not I think he'll have a very decent career. More than happy to be in the minority on that & only time will tell.
So, you've always rated Eccles then?
Or you changed your mind after literally 1 game?
Based on what?robins is getting us out of the deal
I didn’t think Eccles had the strength tbf he was lightweight but has came on quickly it’s a matter of opinion I respect yours but for me he’s not worth £750k
It’s not 1 game lol Eccles has came on very quickly sheaf might do the same but right now he’s never worth £750k soon as James come in I had doubts about robins trusting sheaf,even if it was 1 game I would still have Eccles over sheaf & use the £750k elsewhereAnd after 1 game you'd done a complete 180°
Standard.
It’s not 1 game lol Eccles has came on very quickly sheaf might do the same but right now he’s never worth £750k soon as James come in I had doubts about robins trusting sheaf,even if it was 1 game I would still have Eccles over sheaf & use the £750k elsewhere
Ben Sheaf has actually been back at Arsenal for a few weeks now but it's only just come out
I think the problem is an underlying issue that restricts his movement
Hope Arsenal can help sort it out for the lad's sake
Available for half of what we got for Bayliss I think.Nowhere near as much as Hamer who is apparently a £15m superstar so
People need to realise, whether we sign Sheaf or someone else, this is the type of player we're in the market for - young & talented but with rough edges. If you want the complete package at this level you are talking mega £££ that we simply don't have.
Available for half of what we got for Bayliss I think.
Ooooo this sheaf news really has got to you hasn’t it tell you what is silly even thinking sheaf offered more than Matty JamesIt's the only full game he's ever played in midfield for us so obviously it is.
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Funnily enough on the same day you said how good Sheaf is & what a top player he will be.
If you're going to constantly change your opinion (or copy someone else's) at least have the decency to admit it otherwise you look rather silly.
Ooooo this sheaf news really has got to you hasn’t it tell you what is silly even thinking sheaf offered more than Matty James
I forgot about sheaf
Gone back to Arsenal to play in the European Super league
He played a full season pre curtailment in league 1 last seasonSheaf:
Can sometimes make a great pass, other times give the ball away shockingly.
Can sometimes put in a great tackle or block, other times bottle it, not track back, give away a foul in a dangerous position.
Often caught in possession and we end up losing the ball and momentum.
On the latter note, I listened to the Garry Thompson podcast on What’s the Craic (and it was a good one - listen in). He was saying that many young players nowadays play u23s and there is very little hard tackling and players get time on the ball; and then struggle when they move up to men’s level. In his day, young players would play in the competitive Central League where there’d be old cloggers mixed in who’d kick them all over.
Sheaf appears to still be in Arsenal u23 mode and looks genuinely shocked every time some old pro leans on him and nicks the ball whilst he contemplates his belly button.
Whether this can be coached out of him or played into him remains to be seen, but the Championship isn’t a development league. If we do have to buy him then we need to loan him out somewhere where he’ll get toughened up. Scotland will do.
Sheaf appears to still be in Arsenal u23 mode and looks genuinely shocked every time some old pro leans on him and nicks the ball whilst he contemplates his belly button.
Whether this can be coached out of him or played into him remains to be seen, but the Championship isn’t a development league. If we do have to buy him then we need to loan him out somewhere where he’ll get toughened up. Scotland will do.
I can see why you say that and I’d agree on the face of it.Bit of a lazy assumption just because he came from Arsenal. He hasn't played U23s for 2 years & has had 3 loan spells in the EFL.
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