, reject noise from Catchphrase says not sure about but no question no one was more an advocate of his than I!!Just like to say me and Frostie were basically a two man Sheaf defence force for half the first season so all you pretender Johnny come latelies can do one.
Good enough for what? Clearly both are good enough for our squad for where we currently are at. Longer term, if we want to get promotion and stay up, we will need to improve in that area.Eccles or Torp not good enough then ? Sheaf was outstanding on Saturday but Eccles was also very good alongside him and was praised by McCoist on numerous occasions for doing the understated bits alongside Sheaf
They weren’t though were they ? Both Eccles and Kelly were instrumental in the road to the play off final !Good enough for what? Clearly both are good enough for our squad for where we currently are at. Longer term, if we want to get promotion and stay up, we will need to improve in that area.
Our CMs last season were Sheaf and Hamer - just imagine how good we’d be if we had both this season.
Our CMs last season were Sheaf and Hamer - just imagine how good we’d be if we had both this season.
Sorry but I’m going to call this further . Ben Sheaf is now 26 and in his prime and ready for a premier league move .Good enough for what? Clearly both are good enough for our squad for where we currently are at. Longer term, if we want to get promotion and stay up, we will need to improve in that area.
Our CMs last season were Sheaf and Hamer - just imagine how good we’d be if we had both this season.
And Robbie Keane and Peter Ndlovu playing off Vik …….Imagine if we had them both and Vik this season. United would be toast.
And Robbie Keane and Peter Ndlovu playing off Vik …….
Might have a chance of beating Yoonited thoughThink 13 v 11 is a bit unfair...
That’s not what I said at all. Let’s not kid ourselves that our team needs improvement to get to the next level. Without Sheaf, we were beaten in midfield against Norwich, PNE and WBA in my view. In fact, we immediately looked a better side as soon as Sheaf came on against Watford.They weren’t though were they ? Both Eccles and Kelly were instrumental in the road to the play off final !
Do you honestly think Torp or Eccles have no improvement in them ?
Now I agree with you . For squad progression I see both Kelly and Allen leaving and , for sure , two more signings but they will be in the Torp mould of developmentThat’s not what I said at all. Let’s not kid ourselves that our team needs improvement to get to the next level. Without Sheaf, we were beaten in midfield against Norwich, PNE and WBA in my view. In fact, we immediately looked a better side as soon as Sheaf came on against Watford.
Besides, Eccles, Sheaf and Torp isn’t enough cover for a 50+ game season. It’s the most attritional position. Perhaps you include Allen in that but he’s favoured more as a AM if we’re at full strength. I’m not an ITK at all, but there’s just no chance we don’t sign a CM or 2 in the summer window.
He’s also occasionally prone to the odd ‘infuriating errant close range pass’ he’s not Xavi, but he contributes so much & improves us as a team immeasurably.Sheaf was brilliant on Saturday. However, his failed sliding interception was the first of four errors in the build up to their second goal.
Kitching passing against wolves was beautiful his first time pass to haji for the equaliser was so so goodSheaf used to make mistakes because of his age and experience. When you’re playing centre midfield and receiving the ball under pressure, you will make mistakes and lose it. We had to bear those mistakes. 100 or so games later, after 1000s of times receiving the ball under pressure, he’s close to faultless, knows when to speed it up and slow it down, how to use his body, where to turn, when to nudge it back first time, etc.
I think Bobby Thomas is a bit guilty of this, in a different way. Makes passes he shouldn’t, and the team gets caught out and he looks as though he isn’t focused. It’s teething issues though, his passing is sharp and crisp and he’s confident in his ability. He’ll go to the top level too.
Yep.
I clicked on the thread hoping for some more exotic content than this.
I've always rated Sheaf but I can't find any written proof. Does that count?
Patiently waiting for @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 to come along and tell us he’s not that good.
Sorry mate, luck of the draw from the old thread…Fucking busted there. Excellent spreadsheeting.
Any chance you could have a go at retrieving Boris & Rishi’s lost Covid WhatsApp messages
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