Transfer Rumour Billy Gilmour (1 Viewer)

Its all pie in the sky and maybe a stupid question ...but... would we want someone to come in and take O'hares place?

I absolutly want cover but not sure if taking on someone who we would have to give guarenteed game time would be a wise move.

O'hare is under contract, he is a massive asset to our club and is more than able at this level. still feel he will earn us a fortune down the line and id rather he played and did well than give his spot to a loanee

Alkhen said:

Its all pie in the sky and maybe a stupid question ...but... would we want someone to come in and take O'hares place?

I absolutly want cover but not sure if taking on someone who we would have to give guarenteed game time would be a wise move.

O'hare is under contract, he is a massive asset to our club and is more than able at this level. still feel he will earn us a fortune down the line and id rather he played and did well than give his spot to a loanee

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Totally different type of player, Gilmour is a CDM.

Madness to think we could get him in the summer, but would have a serious chance now. Playing good football, which is largely possession based, and looking to win every week.

Can't believe he's not getting a chance at Norwich. Maybe he's not looking good enough in training, but seems strange that he's not been given a start when they've been doing so badly.

Yorkshire SB said:

Madness to think we could get him in the summer, but would have a serious chance now. Playing good football, which is largely possession based, and looking to win every week.

Can't believe he's not getting a chance at Norwich. Maybe he's not looking good enough in training, but seems strange that he's not been given a start when they've been doing so badly.

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Young players are usually the first to make way in a relegation battle, manager will go for the tried and trusted.

Terry Gibson's perm said:

He is good enough to get into that Norwich side and if he isn’t he needs to be worried.

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Gervane Kasteneer is good enough to get in the Norwich side at the moment.

This is where we can spend Bright’s wage budget allocation.

All good.

We are dreaming again. Jeez.

The Philosopher said:

This is where we can spend Bright’s wage budget allocation.

All good.

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I don’t think Gilmour shops at River Island

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Brighton Sky Blue said:

I don’t think Gilmour shops at River Island

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Is there something cryptic I’ve missed? Bright spending his money in Canary Wharf, an island in the river Thames?

SlowerThanPlatt said:

Young players are usually the first to make way in a relegation battle, manager will go for the tried and trusted.

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Yeah but to not be given a chance for weeks? They've had some winnable games recently as well. Find it odd.

Obviously not good enough

The Philosopher said:

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Is there something cryptic I’ve missed? Bright spending his money in Canary Wharf, an island in the river Thames?

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It’s a clothes shop dude

Forgot about him at Norwich,he can't get a start I'm surprised.

Ccfcisparks said:

He’d be a good signing for you Barnsley! Although I’d expect he would struggle to get in the team.

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They have a team?

SlowerThanPlatt said:

Young players are usually the first to make way in a relegation battle, manager will go for the tried and trusted.

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Why sign him then we’re they expecting to be pushing for the title. They are one of the worst groups of players in the premiership for a long time.

Farke said he doesn’t want to develop other clubs players thats why he aint getting a look in

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:

Farke said he doesn’t want to develop other clubs players thats why he aint getting a look in

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Why did they sign him then? Can't have been cheap

Deleted member 9744 said:

Why did they sign him then? Can't have been cheap

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Just paying part of his wages which can’t have been too exhorbitant

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:

Farke said he doesn’t want to develop other clubs players thats why he aint getting a look in

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Bit of a cunty comment

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 said:

Bit of a cunty comment

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Was rather taken out of context tbf.

The comment was:

"There is no pressure (to play them). We are not here to develop players for other clubs, we are here to win points for this club."

But he also said:

‘Big clubs like Manchester United and Chelsea don’t want it easy for their players,’
If they want to be Manchester United, Chelsea or Tottenham players one day, then they need to make sure that they face this challenge and step up to this challenge. This is the challenge that, for example, our loan players want to have. It is not a gift that we play them because we have loaned them and they want to play many games.’

‘It’s the wrong picture of what he (Gilmour) has done. Yes, he was not in the Burnley game or at Everton but, to be honest, he had a difficult pre-season,’

‘He came later due to his Covid situation and due to the Euros. He played in the first six games more minutes than any other midfield player for us.

‘The first time he was out was for Arsenal because he had played three games for his country and I had to look after this guy a bit.

‘Billy is a fantastic player and we are all glad that we have him, he has already many minutes under his belt and I am pretty sure that he will add many minutes under his belt during the season.’

Not going too well for him at the moment. Maybe they should have sent him here after all.

SeaSeeEffCee said:

Not going too well for him at the moment. Maybe they should have sent him here after all.

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Idiotic fans. Not much more he could’ve done, had a decent game (for a team that are absolute shite pretty much everywhere on the pitch), played some great balls. Not sure what their expectations are…

kg82 said:

Idiotic fans. Not much more he could’ve done, had a decent game (for a team that are absolute shite pretty much everywhere on the pitch), played some great balls. Not sure what their expectations are…

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Easy scapegoat.

You would think next time they ask Chelsea to loan a player they are going to be told to fuck off back to Norwich, it was a poor choice by Chelsea they were always going to struggle and he is streets ahead of their players.

The same mentality that bemoans O'Hare every game and he's actually one of ours.

kg82 said:

Idiotic fans. Not much more he could’ve done, had a decent game (for a team that are absolute shite pretty much everywhere on the pitch), played some great balls. Not sure what their expectations are…

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It's a classic case of being careful what you wish for when they sacked Farke

They may well be happy to keep him there too.

Grow him mentally as well as physically playing in the PL every week as the underdog with people on your back. Next loan would be key though

SeaSeeEffCee said:

Not going too well for him at the moment. Maybe they should have sent him here after all.

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Arsehole set of fans, always have been.

Liquid Gold said:

They may well be happy to keep him there too.

Grow him mentally as well as physically playing in the PL every week as the underdog with people on your back. Next loan would be key though

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Gallagher had the same

Sick Boy said:

Arsehole set of fans, always have been.

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Really can't stand it when fans attack young players like this. I remember Jacob Murphy getting this with us at times. Gilmour will go on to be far too good for the likes of Norwich.

PREMIER LEAGUE | ALYSON RUDD
Billy Gilmour: Chelsea must get Scot out of a club whose annoying fans have unfairly made him a scapegoat

Alyson Rudd

Sunday January 02 2022, 12.01am, The Sunday Times

If you are annoyed at a player out on the pitch representing your Premier League club, there is a limit to what you can chant in his direction. Individual players are booed but mostly it is regarded as a step too far to conjure a ditty aimed at belittling him. Unless that player is not really your player at all.

Last week Norwich City fans were heard singing “F*** off back to Chelsea” to express their dismay with the performances of Billy Gilmour, who is on loan, like so many others, from the west London club.

Norwich are proving highly annoying this season and this unpleasant chorus from some among the travelling supporters at Selhurst Park, where their team lost 3-0, is unlikely to endear them to anyone who already finds their present predicament baffling.


Last time they were in the Premier League, Norwich were entertaining enough for neutrals to yearn for them to evade relegation. We admired their attacking philosophy, were in thrall to the potency of Teemu Pukki and were captivated by the dazzling runs of Todd Cantwell. A club that had been fractured were solid and brimming with camaraderie. They had a plan, a purpose and a director of football in Stuart Webber to see it through. Their promotion in 2019 was a slight surprise and they could be forgiven for going straight back down. We assumed they would be back better-equipped, more experienced, cannier as to how to at least threaten to climb out of the bottom three. But no, they are a diluted version of the 2019/20 vintage. There is no philosophy, no evident camaraderie and no stand-out individuals.

Gilmour was the subject of abusive chants from Norwich fans
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Dean Smith is a fine coach who rarely lets it show publicly when angered by his players but even he looks frustrated. The team have been allowed to coast, to accept their yo-yo status rather than fight to break the cycle. It really does not look like anyone sat down with footage to analyse the challenge of Premier League football even though they have stacks of stats showing exactly where they needed to improve.


Norwich are proud of their rural outlook, their separateness, their thriftiness. Access to a young player who has experience with Chelsea ought to be a source of satisfaction but no, the fans decided to make 20-year-old Gilmour the focal point for their frustration. It is not as if the Scotland midfielder is particularly dreadful, indeed the stats do not back up the notion he is among the worst of Norwich’s poor group, but by picking on Gilmour, the supporters presumably feel they remain loyal to the club. Gilmour is an outsider. Not one of their own.
Perhaps we owe the fans a debt of gratitude because their behaviour does highlight how difficult it must be for those on loan to win over everyone involved. Parent clubs send out players so that they gain game time and toughen up. Rather than risk a gaffe in one of their own games, managers would much rather their youngsters make one for someone else. This leaves the players in a tricky position. A lot is expected of them because they have arrived from a bigger club, but they are still learning the ropes.
The best way to win over the fans is to demonstrate commitment and generally improve the team and this is why no-one supporting Palace has chanted for Conor Gallagher to f*** off back to Chelsea. Patrick Vieira’s side, though, are an easier one in which to thrive than the one presently managed by Smith.
The fans ought to be asking questions of the insular model adopted by the club rather than picking on one midfielder who arrived genuinely hopeful that he could improve while offering the team something a bit different: intelligence in possession.



Thomas Tuchel, the Chelsea head coach, has spoken of Gilmour benefiting from tough times and how adversity can toughen his character, but scapegoating is not quite the same as coping with a mistimed tackle or being substituted. Chelsea have a duty of care and need to terminate the deal and find a place where their young player can thrive.



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/topic/premier-league

Think he won't be recalled by Chelsea as tuchel will look at his development and take the view fans against him should motivate him to win there trust.