Skyblueweeman
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And a quick question from me...who is Stephen Vaughan?
Wasps guyAnd a quick question from me...who is Stephen Vaughan?
Quick question, what is the crack if they drop the NDA and wasps are lying, what are we expecting will happen?
I’m assuming that we all expect the local media to brush it under the carpet and we’ll be back to square 1?
Wasps find that CCFC breach NDA, do they pursue that through the courts?
Exactly how I see it but wouldn’t have put it quite so wellReal politic is not an awful lot. Wasps don’t care about PR as it doesn’t impact their bottom line I’d imagine. They see the risk of losing the Ricoh/compensation claims are far higher run the reward of a few hundred K from CCFC or a few hundred pissed off CCFC fans.
The council don’t care because both parties are implicated if anything is wrong so no political danger.
The only people with anything to gain or lose in this are Sisu which is why they’re making all the noise. The status quo and wait to see what happens is the best option for Wasps unless they can strongarm Sisu into stopping attempts to reverse the sale.
And a quick question from me...who is Stephen Vaughan?
Have they thrown wasps under the bus there? Like saying nothing to do with us - ask them
How predictable.
Shame it isn't just between tenant and landlord when trying to do a deal.
Has he spoke to the guy who posted to him last night asking him to contact him to report the truth ?
How predictable.
Shame it isn't just between tenant and landlord when trying to do a deal.
HopefullyHave they thrown wasps under the bus there? Like saying nothing to do with us - ask them
Having met Boddy, I was wondering if these were his words. Doesn’t correspond to things he said then, or “sound” like the words he would use. Could be wrong of course.The comments which describe what happened last year (indemnity, time wasting etc.) last year and saying the same things happened this time around.
How predictable.
Shame it isn't just between tenant and landlord when trying to do a deal.
They are categorically his words. So much time for what he’s achieved and for the way he’s communicated with the fan baseHaving met Boddy, I was wondering if these were his words. Doesn’t correspond to things he said then, or “sound” like the words he would use. Could be wrong of course.
I assume you’ve spoken to him then since the statement?They are categorically his words. So much time for what he’s achieved and for the way he’s communicated with the fan base
Communicated rather than spoken. I wouldn’t want to use his precise words but I know how much time and effort he has personally and professionally put into the deal and building and nurturing friendships with wasps. I also know that many in the local media and wasps think he is only doing the bidding of his employer and there may be truth in that but not on this occasion. I reached out to say I was so sorry that things had happened the way they had over the Ricoh and thanked him for all his efforts. His reply were the words of someone who stood by every word of the ccfc statement attributed to him.I assume you’ve spoken to him then since the statement?
"Are you the third party" over and over again at them
Of course, that’s what he could have been told to say...Communicated rather than spoken. I wouldn’t want to use his precise words but I know how much time and effort he has personally and professionally put into the deal and building and nurturing friendships with wasps. I also know that many in the local media and wasps think he is only doing the bidding of his employer and there may be truth in that but not on this occasion. I reached out to say I was so sorry that things had happened the way they had over the Ricoh and thanked him for all his efforts. His reply were the words of someone who stood by every word of the ccfc statement attributed to him.
AbsolutelyOf course, that’s what he could have been told to say...
Headline: Council refuse to deny they are the 3rd partyNo comment
Headline: Council refuse to deny they are the 3rd party
How predictable.
Shame it isn't just between tenant and landlord when trying to do a deal.
Real politic is not an awful lot. Wasps don’t care about PR as it doesn’t impact their bottom line I’d imagine. They see the risk of losing the Ricoh/compensation claims are far higher run the reward of a few hundred K from CCFC or a few hundred pissed off CCFC fans.
The council don’t care because both parties are implicated if anything is wrong so no political danger.
The only people with anything to gain or lose in this are Sisu which is why they’re making all the noise. The status quo and wait to see what happens is the best option for Wasps unless they can strongarm Sisu into stopping attempts to reverse the sale.
Sorry Shmeee but aren’t Wasps listed on the stock exchange? Then PR plays a massive part of keeping stock price up-absolute suicide not to use it.
Especially as the bond sinking fast!
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Real politic is not an awful lot. Wasps don’t care about PR as it doesn’t impact their bottom line I’d imagine. They see the risk of losing the Ricoh/compensation claims are far higher run the reward of a few hundred K from CCFC or a few hundred pissed off CCFC fans.
The council don’t care because both parties are implicated if anything is wrong so no political danger.
The only people with anything to gain or lose in this are Sisu which is why they’re making all the noise. The status quo and wait to see what happens is the best option for Wasps unless they can strongarm Sisu into stopping attempts to reverse the sale.
Had no idea. Do we have any evidence that their stock price is affected by CCFC fan's feelings? Did previous actions move it?
I can see how we'd hope so, just looking for some evidence. Seems the Ricoh ownership is far more important than CCFC fans liking them to me. Happy to see evidence to the contrary.
Only thing I disagree with is that Wasps don't care about PR. They're still a new team in the city and trying to establish themselves. Crowds aren't exactly booming at the moment.
If they don't care about PR, then they probably should.
Had no idea. Do we have any evidence that their stock price is affected by CCFC fan's feelings? Did previous actions move it?
I can see how we'd hope so, just looking for some evidence. Seems the Ricoh ownership is far more important than CCFC fans liking them to me. Happy to see evidence to the contrary.
It's not just CCFC fan's feelings, is it?
It's exactly why they rolled out ex players to bullshit that there was nothing wrong with the accounts.
Do you really not get any of this?
Put a number on it. What do you reckon the bad PR costs Wasps, is it more or less than they stand to lose/gain from the Ricoh saga?
I'm not sure what there is to 'get'? Either it's less than the damage for the Ricoh and Wasps are acting irrationally, or it's not and they aren't.
You seem to have real trouble decoupling your feelings from a rational analysis of why people might act like they are. Me saying 'I can see the financial reasons why Wasps wouldn't care' without me saying 'Isn't it great Wasps don't care' You get that, right?
Had no idea. Do we have any evidence that their stock price is affected by CCFC fan's feelings? Did previous actions move it?
I can see how we'd hope so, just looking for some evidence. Seems the Ricoh ownership is far more important than CCFC fans liking them to me. Happy to see evidence to the contrary.
Would be my adviceIf your Wasps now, dont you just sit quiet and not say anything further?
What have they got to lose, i think they already know not many CCFC fans will go and watch them, why would they care if they piss us off any more or we dont believe them.
This is their opportunity to fully cut ties.
SISU can then come out and say "see we were being honest, it was down to Wasps because they didnt argue" but in reality we are then up the creek until the new ground is ready!
i dont see why Wasps would make another statement and think they will let it blow over.
Not really sure what SISUs play is here, i'd love Wasps to disappear but dont think it will be as quick as some do, surely they have to get digging at Warwick Uni sharpish. Im not sure we can survive 5 years in Birmingham to be honest......
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