CanadianCCFC
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English football will never be salary capped unless La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A etc are too. For it to happen it would need to be organized by FIFA or UEFA.
English football will never be salary capped unless La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A etc are too. For it to happen it would need to be organized by FIFA or UEFA.It’s one option of several. Right now it would just be nice to fix the problems in this country
The worry the premier league will have us that the bottom teams just keep saving the money they get just in case they go down so the product will get worse.
Bolton and Bury have both been given longer than they should have been already, Appleton has not covered himself in glory in this one either don’t think we will be seeing his smug face for a good while.
While I'm on my soapbox yet again, I think it's about time we stopped taking footballers salaries in terms of £x per week. Obviously tens or even hundreds of thousands a week are still massive amounts, but it doesn't seem as much as it actually is. Let's talk footballer salaries like most normal jobs - per annum.
For example, you say someone is on £20k per week it seems a fair whack. Say it as £1.04m a year and it feels more. That's a half decent sized company CEO level of pay. And there are players in the championship on more than double that.
I'm saying that it seems that people now seem to have got as much footy as they want or have time to watch. It's only anecdotal but there seems to be a lot more people who're deciding to get rid of their Sky Sports packages.
The rights packages are more spread out between providers than before partly due to it being unaffordable to buy them all. It's the fact there are so many channels now wanting to have the rights that is keeping the prices high. There is the competition argument but the fact is it isn't competition, it's extra cost for the consumer. The games shown on Sky are different to those on BT etc.
There will be a lag time and at the moment the tv deals are maintaining and slightly increased in value but it will become unsustainable. I doubt we'll see a catastrophic ITV Digital situation. I remember when Italian football was a massive thing and considered the best in Europe. Now almost no-one gives a fuck.
The last two deals have collectively risen by 70%
The general belief is it will next time round escalate massively with streaming services joining the bidding war
That's the problem though isn't it. IMO the sensible thing to do is to bank a fair proportion of that money for the future and not take on massive financial risks and commitments, but relegation is pretty much assured within a season or two and then the fans and pundits are saying "they didn't invest" and you've got fans on the teams and managers back and calling for you to sell the club, creating a negative mindset around the club and potentially starting a losing mentality and spiral of decline. The PL also don't want that because as you said it affects the product.
Or you spend it on big transfer fees and wages (often on quite mediocre players) in the hope you'll stay up, just to have to go through the same thing again year after year until inevitably one year if fails. Then you're relegated with almost no financial buffer and big spending commitments on transfers and salaries in the future, creating an added financial problem on top of the problems on the pitch exacerbated by the fire sale of high earners and sale of good players to meet those commitments. PL much prefer this because their product remains high but when it goes wrong you're an EFL club who's spent beyond their means, not a PL one. Never acknowledging that the reason they spent beyond their means in the first place was because they got to the PL and were almost forced into doing so, spending tens of millions on Jorge Mediocre and Jose Average on over a hundred grand a week.
Does it really matter? If market forces command the wage honestly so what?
It's more about making those in the boardroom more accountable for their decisions to offer these contracts and whether they're affordable for the club. Trouble is chances are fans would just have a go at the players for those earnings instead of those stupid enough to offer them in the first place.
If we go up this season I reckon we'll be Premier contenders in two/three seasons after this one.
Is that based on Glicko?
Or more likely vodka?
What about when clubs refuse to pay players what they demand and people shout about ambition?
If we go up this season I reckon we'll be Premier contenders in two/three seasons after this one.
Take off the sky blue tinted glasses. Then put down the sky blue tinted telescope (maybe it’s better to do those in the opposite order but I couldn’t start with the telescope I’d lose the effect). There’s no way that’s true.To climb the championship should take around three seasons... Perhaps two...
No way, we would do well to not get relegated back down to League 1, the Championship is very different now in terms of the amount the top teams spend compared to when we were last there.If we go up this season I reckon we'll be Premier contenders in two/three seasons after this one.
No way, we would do well to not get relegated back down to League 1, the Championship is very different now in terms of the amount the top teams spend compared to when we were last there.
Exactly. Fans, including me at times, want the club to show ambition. We want to be signing decent players (or just signing players as many on here seem to get a bit narked if we go more than 10 days off season without signing someone). We want to be keeping our best ones. But then when the chickens come home to roost and the clubs in deep peril we're complaining about the owners either not investing or spending unwisely and putting a historic club and community asset at risk. Think the BR regime.
It's why even if I had the resources I'd never own a football club under these conditions. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I know I'd be unpopular with fans because I'd be prudent, but I'd also make sure there was still a club there for them to support when I'd gone.
In our case of course the council do not even value the football club as a community asset
Didn't we all say the same thing when we got promoted to division 1 - to survive.
Yet we came eighth.
Does anyone know the rating the winners of division one finished on last season, and how far we are off that?
There’s a huge gap between the top of League 1 and the Championship, much more than than the top of league 1 and 2
It’s madness as plenty of money is being spent in Birmingham now
Having a billionaire is par for the course in the top flight and having a tycoon is nearly par for the course to compete in the higher end of the Championship. Of course G loves it
I think a bit more is being spent in Birmingham than would be if we played in Coventry, because it feels more like a day out or away game. My neighbours are now going on the train to Brum and having something to eat and drink on the walk to/from the stadium. At the Ricoh they'd park up, watch the game, get in the car and go home. There's arguably more in terms of variety available as well in terms of pubs as it's a bit more accessible from the city centre, but that would probably just spread the spend out rather than generate extra - here it's concentrated in places like the casino, Burger King and Tesco's.
Not that any money people spend in Birmingham that could be being spent in Coventry is acceptable.
I think we're getting some F&B income aren't we (correct me if I'm wrong)? If so are people choosing to eat and drink more in the stadium to benefit the club rather than in the local area?
I assume those pubs in Coventry that have coaches running come back ASAP so those on the coach get their post-match pint and grub at their establishment.
Juvenile as ever. Where is Burnley’s tycoon out of interest
You can see it walking up to the ground, there are pubs that are full of city fans. Burger vans out making money around the ground as well. I can't remember the last time I saw a burger van anywhere near the Ricoh on a matchday, it was a good few years ago.
There's the bar at the ground by the entrance and then the kiosks inside the ground.
The local pubs there actually seem to be going out of their way to make an effort and get city fans in there, putting DJs on etc and trying to get people in there spending money.
The fact there isn't a parking ban on matchdays also makes a fair bit of difference.
Feel sorry for the Bolton and Bury fans there but for the grace of god could have been us
However I dont agree that a football club should be a special case when it comes to running a failing business. Cant think of any other failing companies who can circumvent paying its creditors by invoking something like the football creditors rules. That rule should not exist and as harsh as it sounds football needs a shake up where some more clubs go bust. Fans go on about their football community being destroyed but what about the smaller businesses these poorly run clubs send to the wall, the livelihoods ruined by these football ego trips etc. There is no reason for football creditors rule other than inept rank poor governance and dismal clueless management of clubs. At some point the football authorities need to bite the bullet and properly sort the whole house of cards out
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