Bonfire Night (1 Viewer)

Otis · Nov 6, 2019

Time to ban fireworks being sold to the public and allow organised used events only?

Surely now is the time.

I see riot police were out on the streets of Leeds last night with kids throwing fireworks about and the other day some kids threw a firework into a Domino's pizza place in Ernsford Grange here.

It's enough now isn't it. Time to pull the plug. My dog is nervous for weeks, leading up to and past the event and it is unrelenting.

Twice this week fireworks have been going off at 2 in the morning.

Organised events only. Make it a community thing and go and see proper displays, which are always so much better than anything you can conjure up in your garden anyway.

Ian1779 · Nov 6, 2019

I’m all for this for the simple fact I am bored of my neighbours playing ‘my firework(cock) is bigger than your firework’ for a week before and after.

The kids bloody love it though.

shmmeee · Nov 6, 2019

I’ve always been against it (banning them), but to be honest it’s getting to the point where we should at least make it more restricted. As long as professional displays for Diwali/Bonfire Night/New Year are still attainable by small community groups.

Sky Blue Pete · Nov 6, 2019

Loads of them here all hours of the early morning

Covstu · Nov 6, 2019

One of my two cats hate them but again it’s over a small period of time. I would prefer it to be at organised events but as a kid we always had them at home so maybe double standards if I took that view.
All goes back to our current fucked up society and lack of respect

Otis · Nov 6, 2019

Covstu said:
One of my two cats hate them but again it’s over a small period of time. I would prefer it to be at organised events but as a kid we always had them at home so maybe double standards if I took that view.
All goes back to our current fucked up society and lack of respect

I wish it was just a small period of time, stu, but these days it goes on for weeks.

Covstu · Nov 6, 2019

Otis said:
I wish it was just a small period of time, stu, but these days it goes on for weeks.

Not been as bad this year, divali normally goes on longer but didn’t but yes we will get at least a week for bonfire night

shmmeee · Nov 6, 2019

Will say that as a shared parent I’d hate it if bonfire night was restricted to one day/weekend. My kids have two bonfire nights (and most holidays) so we can both do things with them. I’ll be taking them to a display this weekend which no doubt some think is too far away.

Otis · Nov 6, 2019

shmmeee said:
Will say that as a shared parent I’d hate it if bonfire night was restricted to one day/weekend. My kids have two bonfire nights (and most holidays) so we can both do things with them. I’ll be taking them to a display this weekend which no doubt some think is too far away.

No, you could have as many displays as you want and not just restricted to one night, but they would just have to be organised.

richnrg · Nov 6, 2019

shmmeee said:
I’ll be taking them to a display this weekend which no doubt some think is too far away.

why, how far away is it?

Otis · Nov 6, 2019

Hong Kong.

Gazolba · Nov 6, 2019

When I was a kid many moons ago, I started buying fireworks weeks before the day.
I liked catherine wheels, rockets, and the the conical shaped ones that spewed out orange 'lava' like volcanoes.
I looked forward to it all year, let them off in our back garden and always followed the instructions and warnings to the letter.
If a firework failed to go off, I wouldn't approach it but left it till the next day.
I would even get up early the following morning and roam around the neighbourhood looking for landed rocksts.
For me, there is no fun at all in an organised display.
I've seen the display at Disneyland, which is spectacular, but to me one firework seen up close and personal is better than a one hour organised display.

shmmeee · Nov 6, 2019

Gazolba said:
When I was a kid many moons ago, I started buying fireworks weeks before the day.
I liked catherine wheels, rockets, and the the conical shaped ones that spewed out orange 'lava' like volcanoes.
I looked forward to it all year, let them off in our back garden and always followed the instructions and warnings to the letter.
If a firework failed to go off, I wouldn't approach it but left it till the next day.
I would even get up early the following morning and roam around the neighbourhood looking for landed rocksts.
For me, there is no fun at all in an organised display.
I've seen the display at Disneyland, which is spectacular, but to me one firework seen up close and personal is better than a one hour organised display.

Same. But then I talk to people from countries where they’re banned for public sale and they all think we are mad.

ccfc92 · Nov 6, 2019

shmmeee said:
Same. But then I talk to people from countries where they’re banned for public sale and they all think we are mad.

I thought I would Google US firework sales.

I almost knew this would be the case, it literally sums up their Gun culture. :joyful::joyful::joyful:

"Consumer fireworks that explode in the sky are only legal in Maine and New Hampshire. They are illegal in Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont."

Otis · Nov 6, 2019

ccfc92 said:
I thought I would Google US firework sales.

I almost knew this would be the case, it literally sums up their Gun culture. :joyful::joyful::joyful:

"Consumer fireworks that explode in the sky are only legal in Maine and New Hampshire. They are illegal in Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont, unless you are pointing them directly at someone."

Marty · Nov 6, 2019

I think they're fine, you can't ban everything for the few mindless idiots.

Otis · Nov 6, 2019

Marty said:
I think they're fine, you can't ban everything for the few mindless idiots.

It's not banning everything though. Fireworks allowed, but only for organised displays. There would just be more organised displays.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 7, 2019

Marty said:
I think they're fine, you can't ban everything for the few mindless idiots.

That's the justification the NRA uses for semi-automatic weapons

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Nov 7, 2019

Maybe the government should look to bring in licences? Renewable on a yearly basis?

richnrg · Nov 7, 2019

perhaps someone should invent a new type of 'personal' firework (the i-firework?)
They would work exactly the same as normal (flashing lights, smells etc), but with the 'bang' removed - to be replaced by an artificial, synchronized bang, which is transmitted wirelessly to the special i-firework-ear-pods of the wearers below.
No more scared pets (unless someone has given them an ear-pod for a laugh), and the next door neighbours no longer get to benefit from the full excitement of your display.

richnrg · Nov 7, 2019

...and volume control could be added to help the 'hard of hearing'

Marty · Nov 7, 2019

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That's the justification the NRA uses for semi-automatic weapons

Should we ban driving/cars?

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 7, 2019

richnrg said:
perhaps someone should invent a new type of 'personal' firework (the i-firework?)
They would work exactly the same as normal (flashing lights, smells etc), but with the 'bang' removed - to be replaced by an artificial, synchronized bang, which is transmitted wirelessly to the special i-firework-ear-pods of the wearers below.
No more scared pets (unless someone has given them an ear-pod for a laugh), and the next door neighbours no longer get to benefit from the full excitement of your display.

But some 'joker' would hook it up to a loudspeaker and turn the volume up....

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 7, 2019

Marty said:
Should we ban driving/cars?

Cars can be lethal in the wrong hands but have a practical use to transport people/goods around. Fireworks do not - they just emit bright lights and loud noises and can be lethal in the wrong hands. Only thing a gun is designed to do is kill/injure things.

shmmeee · Nov 7, 2019

Marty said:
Should we ban driving/cars?

Silly point. It’s a cost benefit discussion and cars have obvious utility.

Gazolba · Nov 8, 2019

ccfc92 said:
I thought I would Google US firework sales.

I almost knew this would be the case, it literally sums up their Gun culture. :joyful::joyful::joyful:

"Consumer fireworks that explode in the sky are only legal in Maine and New Hampshire. They are illegal in Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont."

Each state sets its own laws.
I'm not sure what point you are tring to make, but you can buy fireworks in the supermarket where I live in Arizona.
But some cities in the state still ban them.
But they aren't the same as those I remember buying as a kid in the UK.
Back then, they were all made by British firework companies. I remember Brocks and Paines but I know there were others.

Gazolba · Nov 8, 2019

richnrg said:
perhaps someone should invent a new type of 'personal' firework (the i-firework?)
They would work exactly the same as normal (flashing lights, smells etc), but with the 'bang' removed - to be replaced by an artificial, synchronized bang, which is transmitted wirelessly to the special i-firework-ear-pods of the wearers below.
No more scared pets (unless someone has given them an ear-pod for a laugh), and the next door neighbours no longer get to benefit from the full excitement of your display.

They did exist years ago.
I think they were called 'table-top fireworks' or something similar.
They were designed for indoors.
Here you go: Indoor Fireworks Wholesale Low Hazard Fun Party Items

ccfc92 · Nov 8, 2019

Gazolba said:
Each state sets its own laws.
I'm not sure what point you are tring to make, but you can buy fireworks in the supermarket where I live in Arizona.
But some cities in the state still ban them.
But they aren't the same as those I remember buying as a kid in the UK.
Back then, they were all made by British firework companies. I remember Brocks and Paines but I know there were others.

My point is, it's ironic that in some states fireworks are illegal, yet in some/the same states, you can buy an assault rifle to kill people.

I could of guessed the answer before googling it.

Otis · Nov 8, 2019

Watch: Shocking moment fireworks launched in Broadgate

Someone just let off a box of fireworks in Broadgate, sending them flying off in all directions.

Gazolba · Nov 9, 2019

Otis said:
Watch: Shocking moment fireworks launched in Broadgate

Someone just let off a box of fireworks in Broadgate, sending them flying off in all directions.

Where were the police?

Gazolba · Nov 9, 2019

ccfc92 said:
My point is, it's ironic that in some states fireworks are illegal, yet in some/the same states, you can buy an assault rifle to kill people.

I could of guessed the answer before googling it.

I think most if not all the states you listed where fireworks are illegal also have very strict gun laws.
But strict gun laws don't stop criminals aquiring guns.

Otis · Nov 9, 2019

Gazolba said:
Where were the police?

Ducking, is my guess.

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