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ecky · Nov 5, 2014

Callum Wilson playing a significant part in their success now being top of the championship...
Sisu should have kept him for another season to get us out of this dire league.
Their lack of ambition, shortsightedness and the way they operate will see us stuck in this god for saken league for years..
You look at Bournemouth and you say to yourself that should be us!!

Ian1779 · Nov 5, 2014

The Wilson situation is more about the fact he was offered to be the main striker at a club playing in the Championship.

italiahorse · Nov 5, 2014

How could he refuse ......
- much lower wage here
- playing for Coventry in Northampton
- playing in front of 2000 crowds
- in league one
- Bournemouth/Poole is a nice place
- Sisu
- playing with poor players
- need I go on .....

letsallsingtogether · Nov 5, 2014

italiahorse said:
How could he refuse ......
- much lower wage here
- playing for Coventry in Northampton
- playing in front of 2000 crowds
- in league one
- Bournemouth/Poole is a nice place
- Sisu
- playing with poor players
- need I go on .....

Yes all that is true but if they had held out and kept him I believe they and he would have got a better deal this January or at the end of he season.

And we would be top of the league now.

wal3590 · Nov 5, 2014

Just prey we have a few clauses in the contract. (Sell on clauses etc.) Very happy for the lad!

matesx · Nov 5, 2014

******* pray

Otis · Nov 5, 2014

matesx said:
******* pray

Surely prey and clause go together don't they?

ashbyjan · Nov 5, 2014

Pressley was asked about Wilson at Trust meeting on Monday and confirmed that club needed money, lad was quadrupeling his wages, playing in higher league etc etc - was good deal for all parties. He also said there were add ons. I would assume that the £3.5m fee quoted also includes these ie we havent actually got this much yet but if Bournmouth get promoted - Wilson plays for England etc we will get it.

skybluetony176 · Nov 5, 2014

Fair play to the lad. He's making the "£3.5M is good for a potential 1 season wonder" quotes that were flying around look silly. I hope it was £3.5M + add ons otherwise we were robbed.

Like LETS pointed out. Would we be serious promotion contenders if he was still here? I would bet on yes. Does anyone know how much promotion to the Championship is worth? Again if its more than £3.5M we were robbed and thats before you include the extra ticket and assotiated revenue we would be getting if we were promotion contenders playing in the same style we started last season with.

Skyblueweeman · Nov 5, 2014

No offence to the OP but I f*&king hate threads like this. Yes, SISU are the devil in disguise but we got offered approx £3m deal, three players on loan (despite their quality) for a player who had one good season with us. The lad was going to quadruple his wages. It was a Win-Win-Win for everyone at the time.

You could say Spurs were stupid to sell Bale as he went on to score the winner in the Spanish Cup and ended up scoring whilst winning the Champions League. That's football FFS, get over it!

Speedies_Chips · Nov 5, 2014

I am fairly confident that even if we still had Wilson, we would still not be promoted. He wouldn't be able to prevent the goals we let in, and with our current midfield, I doubt he would be getting that many opportunities to score. We would be needing him to score 3 a game in order to win regularly , which is completely unrealistic. He is a good player yes, but he couldn't single-handedly get us promotion

letsallsingtogether · Nov 5, 2014

Speedies_Chips said:
I am fairly confident that even if we still had Wilson, we wouldn't still not be promoted. He wouldn't be able to prevent the goals we let in, and with our current midfield, I doubt he would be getting that many opportunities to score. We would be needing him to score 3 a game in order to win regularly , which is completely unrealistic. He is a good player yes, but he couldn't single-handedly get us promotion

But we are only on minus 7 not minus 70 have lost a few games by only 1 goal?

stupot07 · Nov 5, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
But we are only on minus 7 not minus 70 have lost a few games by only 1 goal?

We also lost games by the odd goal last season when he was playing. Don't get me wrong we would be doing better with Wilson playing, but I'm not convinced he would have singlehandedly got us promotion.

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Ian1779 · Nov 5, 2014

Skyblueweeman said:
No offence to the OP but I f*&king hate threads like this. Yes, SISU are the devil in disguise but we got offered approx £3m deal, three players on loan (despite their quality) for a player who had one good season with us. The lad was going to quadruple his wages. It was a Win-Win-Win for everyone at the time.

You could say Spurs were stupid to sell Bale as he went on to score the winner in the Spanish Cup and ended up scoring whilst winning the Champions League. That's football FFS, get over it!

The fact is that even if we were owned by Haskell, Dhinsa, Hoffman or even a Narnian hedge fund the sale would still have happened.

RFC · Nov 5, 2014

ecky said:
Callum Wilson playing a significant part in their success now being top of the championship...
Sisu should have kept him for another season to get us out of this dire league.
Their lack of ambition, shortsightedness and the way they operate will see us stuck in this god for saken league for years..
You look at Bournemouth and you say to yourself that should be us!!

Not up to the owners who stays, the power has swung totally towards players & their Agents.

If someone offered to quadruple your wages I guess you'd stay where you are??????????

Nothing to do with lack of ambition, all to do with market forces & MONEY!

Speedies_Chips · Nov 5, 2014

letsallsingtogether said:
But we are only on minus 7 not minus 70 have lost a few games by only 1 goal?

So in the games we have lost by 1 goal, he would definitely have scored 2 goals to turn them into wins???

LJC_CCFC · Nov 5, 2014

Neither Wilson nor Clarke would have scored at the same rate as last season in the 5-3-2. Wilson is a small part of the reason Bournemouth are doing well. Threads like these just breed negativity, he's gone just move on.

Cheshire Sky Blue · Nov 5, 2014

Otis said:
Surely prey and clause go together don't they?

No it's Santa...

CovisGod · Nov 5, 2014

I don't usually like the money argument, especially when players are earning 50k plus, the way I see it if your on a decent whack anyway (Premier League standard wages) and they go to another club for more money it's more about greed than anything, if your on a comfortable wage and enjoying playing for your club money shouldn't really be a factor. If my wages were quadrupled would I go elsewhere ? Fuck yes I would, but that's due to being paid a pittance. If I was on a lot of money and was offered more elsewhere I'd certainly have to think about it a lot harder. Anyway I'm rambling, at this stage in his career I can see why Wilson would leave for more money and and a better opportunity at playing at the highest level, can't fault the lad for that

The Philosopher · Nov 5, 2014

From a pure business point of view, it is better to take the money rather than regret later. For every Wilson there's a Mifsud (offered £, ended up going for 0), a Clingan (offered £ from Leeds - free after) not to mention the fact he had a series of injuries. Pace players like Wilson peak in terms of value in their early 20's but then drift down as they slow.

skybluetony176 · Nov 5, 2014

LJC_CCFC said:
Neither Wilson nor Clarke would have scored at the same rate as last season in the 5-3-2. Wilson is a small part of the reason Bournemouth are doing well. Threads like these just breed negativity, he's gone just move on.

Do you think that if Wilson and/or Clarke was still here we would have ever played the 5-3-2 formation in the first place?

Otis · Nov 5, 2014

The problem is not in the selling of Wilson, but in making sure an adequate replacement is secured to fill the void left by his absence.

musicmanskyblue · Nov 5, 2014

I think most would be more understanding to the logistics of the move if at least some part of the fee would have been invested back in the team.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 5, 2014

Who cares? We got Jackson to replace him who is far better than Wilson...

stupot07 · Nov 5, 2014

skybluetony176 said:
Do you think that if Wilson and/or Clarke was still here we would have ever played the 5-3-2 formation in the first place?

Probably. .

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hill83 · Nov 5, 2014

Yeah but we've got Allflop out of the deal. Every cloud.

Astute · Nov 5, 2014

So if we kept Wilson we wouldn't be doing much better and Bournemouth wouldn't be doing much worse? And I thought I could spout shit on here

If you are still saying that it was a good deal you are either making excuses for those who make the decisions or making excuses for yourself because you said it was a good deal when he was sold. He is knocking them in for fun and setting other players up against much better players. Yet he wouldn't make much of a difference to our results this season?

Astute · Nov 5, 2014

hill83 said:
Yeah but we've got Allflop out of the deal. Every cloud.......

......brings the wet drips out here to post.

georgehudson · Nov 5, 2014

imho, with the loss of messrs, Murphy, Baker, Moussa, Christie, Clarke, & Wilson, it would have been about money, but it is therefore a moot point as to whether that stands, if Sisu are still taking £1.8m per season as a management charge, or should that be a mis-management charge

jimmyhillsfanclub · Nov 5, 2014

Damn you sisu.....If only we kept hold of Wallace, Gibson, Speedie, Gallagher, Dublin, Keane.....blah blah fucking blah.....

Really is some pathetic whinging by sad cases on here sometimes.....

shy_tall_knight · Nov 5, 2014

Last season Shaun Miller scored 4 goals, Tudguy chipped in with 2 - they were not adequate replacements, Leon was never really replaced when he left last season the Fonz Akpom Ecclestone - scored a massive 2 in the back half of last season. We are now lwft with loans Noubkle & Madine will score in this ;league but may both be gone by Jan and the merry go round starts up again cheap has beens and never beens.

Astute · Nov 5, 2014

jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Damn you sisu.....If only we kept hold of Wallace, Gibson, Speedie, Gallagher, Dublin, Keane.....blah blah fucking blah.....

Really is some pathetic whinging by sad cases on here sometimes.....

Are you saying that we have never replaced players sold over the years?

How about the pathetic excuses being made by CCFC supporters on why we are becoming shit and a lower level division 3 club?

covmark · Nov 5, 2014

Astute said:
So if we kept Wilson we wouldn't be doing much better and Bournemouth wouldn't be doing much worse? And I thought I could spout shit on here

If you are still saying that it was a good deal you are either making excuses for those who make the decisions or making excuses for yourself because you said it was a good deal when he was sold. He is knocking them in for fun and setting other players up against much better players. Yet he wouldn't make much of a difference to our results this season?

At the time it was a good deal, that's what people are saying. 1 season in league 1 scoring goals, probably all the other teams in this division would have cashed in. Add to that Wilson was offered far more money and higher standard of football. It was inevitable he was going to go.

Would we be doing better? Who knows. Wilson wouldn't stop the amount of goals we're conceding though.

Buster · Nov 5, 2014

Only SISU's Bank Manager could even dream that selling Wilson was good !

skybluelee · Nov 5, 2014

italiahorse said:
How could he refuse ......
- much lower wage here
- playing for Coventry in Northampton
- playing in front of 2000 crowds
- in league one
- Bournemouth/Poole is a nice place
- Sisu
- playing with poor players
- need I go on .....

Most of Poole is a shit hole.

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