Samo
Well-Known Member
Yeah, let's get 'The Gentleman' on the case!
Perhaps we could recruit the Legion to invade a high profile game which would likely to be televised, Grendel fresh with his or her razor cut, stay press and doc martins could lead the lads straight from their stronghold at the Wheatsheaf. Don't get too many old bill at the rugby and no football banning orders either.
Encourage the club to agree to ditch the legal action if negotiations are re entered and a deal agreed.
The moment it is signed the legal action is dropped.
The legal action is SISU not CCFC.
Call Wasps out, either we get the deal that saves the future of the club or we expose them as having no intention to keep us there. Then we definitely know where we stand.
All we have to do is offer up the bulls**t legal action, that is no advantage to CCFC anyway.
Use every means possible to pressurise both sides to continue the talks on this basis.
In the meantime pack the Ricoh. It will show our true value and if in the unlikely circumstances we build our own stadium we get a proper starting capacity.
Yes agree. We have people being slaughtered on here for going to watch Wasps play and now we are saying we should all go?
I would never attend a Wasps game.
I have not been very involved in the politics and business side and a lot of this has passed me by. Is anybody able to summarise exactly what has happened and what our grievance is please. If someone was able to do a fairly simple summary of events I'd really appreciate it.
You could have made it four men a dog and whistle why didn't you?If the mountain won't come to Mohammed...
Sometimes, a protest is about what makes the best news story.
Pointless doing the same old, same old with three men, a dog and a whistle. A protest has to be about the performance more than anything.
I like the idea of filling the stadium with 20k+ supporters for every home game which would benefit CCFC and give us the funds to get out of the league and dwarf the WASPS attendances in their own stadium and because of their greed they would not want us to leave and would see a financial advantage of being more collaborative with usI know we've had some threads around the issue but I think we need to get some ideas out on the table and decide what actions can actually be taken.
The problem is the fragmentation of the fanbase. Blame apportionment and re-writing of history is far from helpful. My belief always has been that Wasps have wanted a cheap stadium for many years and Richardson identified this opportunity and it's why he purchased wasps. The subsequent events have been all conduits to wasps and the councils desire to bring this club here. There see wasps fans who equally concur with this viewpoint.
I believe now wasps want the club gone. I believe that this City of Rugby strategy is ultimately an attempt to get both union and league at the ground. Wasps I'm afraid have huge delusions of grandure. They believe wasps will be some sort of global brand and I'm sure the only other club they will ever integrate will be the rugby league club.
There have definitely been plants on this forum. That says a lot about their intent and desire to always be the positive good guy in this saga.
Their hold on local media is incredible and I an not sure how this has been done. Even CWR is skewed hugely to them. Today has been a walking advert for them.
There is in my mind no doubt that if wasps remain in coventry this club as well as the rugby club will be marginalised - I actually think the football club will cease to exist.
Whatever peoples views I personally find this a very sad and upsetting prospect. The football club has been a huge part of my life (often to my families annoyance) and the thought that it's going to be removed is not something that I can comprehend.
The future looks grim - with wasps it has no hope.
So can we think of something's we can do to try and counter this threat?
I would urge people to at least look at their forum. There is an arrogance - laughing at football fans for their poor grammar, claiming conentry needs wasps more than the other way round and telling the club to find some money and build something itself for once (that individual clearly doesn't appreciate irony) but at the same time there is nervous uncertainty. A concern if the placid and actually compliant fan base started to turn.
It is this that gives us our only hope. There is a lack of assurance - they know they have years before they can be fully entrenched.
So - what can we do? I've some thoughts - but what about anyone else?
I would ask this thread does not descend into the normal divergent blame game nonsense. If people don't share the view fine - but those that do - what do we think?
So perhaps we should all vote for another city then
IF and it's a big if to my mind, that CCC and Wasps are out to 'destroy' Coventry City, then just how much embarrassment would it be to them and how much high profile would we get if we actually won the league this season? Open top bus parade, civic reception.
For me the best 'protest' possible and to make everyone stand up and take notice of us, is to raise our profile by winning something.
Again this comes down to everyone getting up the Ricoh, supporting the team, backing the manager and letting him build a winning team.
We get promotion next season then the whole city will be talking about us and any notion to have us forced out will face much greater opposition.
IF and it's a big if to my mind, that CCC and Wasps are out to 'destroy' Coventry City, then just how much embarrassment would it be to them and how much high profile would we get if we actually won the league this season? Open top bus parade, civic reception.
For me the best 'protest' possible and to make everyone stand up and take notice of us, is to raise our profile by winning something.
Again this comes down to everyone getting up the Ricoh, supporting the team, backing the manager and letting him build a winning team.
We get promotion next season then the whole city will be talking about us and any notion to have us forced out will face much greater opposition.
To have a serious opposition and protest group you need clout above us "men of straw" and an end game, a credible alternative, that means money. We have well heeled individuals more than capable of taking over the club, and perhaps would like too but seem to be keeping their heads down. There needs to be proper meetings. Getting our club out of the clutches of our current owners has to be just as important as trying to embarrass Wasps, ccc, or any other third party and for that serious money is needed from somewhere and God knows where that might be.
Maybe fight fire with fire everybody support anyway you can Coventry rugby club instead of watching wasp let's support the local real Coventry rugby club and fly Coventry city fc banners.
Exactly, if people start to see that CCFC are a bigger club (even just attendances) then people will take notice.
Wasps can own the stadium, they can put their signage up etc but we should make it sky blue ourselves.
IF and it's a big if to my mind, that CCC and Wasps are out to 'destroy' Coventry City, then just how much embarrassment would it be to them and how much high profile would we get if we actually won the league this season? Open top bus parade, civic reception.
For me the best 'protest' possible and to make everyone stand up and take notice of us, is to raise our profile by winning something.
Again this comes down to everyone getting up the Ricoh, supporting the team, backing the manager and letting him build a winning team.
We get promotion next season then the whole city will be talking about us and any notion to have us forced out will face much greater opposition.
Exactly, if people start to see that CCFC are a bigger club (even just attendances) then people will take notice.
Wasps can own the stadium, they can put their signage up etc but we should make it sky blue ourselves.
1. We are never going to pack the ground out - it's a pipe dream
2. If the club got promoted we'd be seen as a bigger threat to wasps - they want to be the biggest sports club in this city. The more we threaten that the more impossible it would be to secure a deal to stay.
We tried to agree a long term rental with Wasps, however Wasps are saying they can't do the long term deal whilst the legal action is going on.
People perceive this a bull as they maintain the legal action doesn't affect Wasps and they actually just want us out as they see us as a threat and competition.
Separately until recently we were saying we were going to build our own stadium and our own training and academy facility.
Then stuff came out about potentially an Olympic swimming pool been put in the academy facility when our deal expires.
Then we stated that actually do want to stay at the academy long term.
Then the other day it was announced it is getting sold to Wasps as a training facility for 7 million.
Wasps came out and offered the academy a poor option that Wasps maintain will allow us to keep our academy status.
However many say it actually doesn't do that at all. They also say she shows Wasps want us out.
CCFC now say they have the Butts Park Arena and another site lined up as back up options to build our own stadium.
However it has been about 3-4 years now with us threatening to build our own stadium with very little progress been made. So we hope that that isn't just a bluff.
The next legal action is a Judicial Review where SISU claim the selling of ACL to Wasps was too cheap and not what would have happened in normal private industry.
Wasps have been making out they are the good guy and want us working with them long term but actions the last few days may suggest otherwise.
We would...if we got a big FA cup draw.
90%, are you sure?Or a sustained period of success like with 90% of clubs out there.
I was even thinking the performance bit is you pack the Butts out (as it were!) while a Wasps game is going on... even though there's no game going on at the Butts.
Nothing.
1. We are never going to pack the ground out - it's a pipe dream
Hate what they stand for with a passion, but WASPs have played their own game and have the stadium. We need to move on, we're in danger of getting sucked into an never ending game of cat and mouse, like the court situations. The only thing keeping SISU interested is the legals, which they've been battered with.
Time to give that up, drop the "background noise" and move on.....put the effort into getting planning permission to do something at the Butts - if the council block it, there is no excuse if the legals have been dropped, so then would be the time to address that.
Or we could roll over, have our belly tickled, drop the legals and do a deal with WASPs for rent at the Ricoh and a share (or proper rent agreement) at their new venture at the Higgs.
I'd suspect the latter, not ideal because it's giving in...but its realistic and it won't cost any money for the bricks.
The only way to get at WASPs is for the people of Coventry to not attend their games. Perfect, we can sit on our arses, so that's about right. As a gesture: Kids, rip up those freebie tickets ... and to it on YouTube.
its perhaps not as impossible as you think, just needs a bit of imagination and support from the club.
The club could offer the 1st home game of the season as a "charity day"
All tickets at the turnstyles are FOC, with a voluntary donation to Alzheimer’s Society should anyone wish.
The place would be full and in theory could be used to highlight our plight.
Also, IF the game goes well, it may encourage some attend again.
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