Also noticed covrugby's only like comes from a user who has just started posting again having not posted since 2013. All of his posts are negative towards the club. Must be a coincidence.I am sure the other new user ruggabugga who has just signed up will be along to back you up shortly..
You could have made it four men a dog and whistle why didn't you?
I'm having a lovely holiday thanks .... When people start talking about coming to my rugby club that I've supported for more than 40 years just to protest because things have gone pear shaped at their football club then it's not unreasonable for me to have something to say.
Here we go ..... Another poster 'bullied' because you don't like to hear something said you don't Agree with
They wouldn't be going to 'protest'; they would be going to watch the game, cheer on the local rugby club and show some solidarity.
Where have you been? Both clubs have been working closely with each other recently. We use some of the facilities. There have been joint ticket offers, the clubs are talking about pooling resources - as discussed by your own CE at a meeting with CCFC supporters. I think you're mischief making and you are not been bullied, you're being challenged.
The whistle is a mustThe point was that sometimes less is more.
Two marches worked, because they were able to grasp some profile and build-up. The regular, over and over mini protests done seemingly on the hoof didn't, because there were so many mini efforts it was impossible to keep pace, and it made for protest apathy.
Look, I admire your efforts, and have always said fair play for going along all the time - that's not in doubt. Believe it or not what I don't want is for you to be left out doing anything alone this time around however.
I do think that protests for us are an uphill battle anyway however, and the best (only?) chance of getting a sizeable number is to keep it focussed and clear what and where actually is the protest. Forget the splinter groups, forget the politics of who's right and wrong, but make sure there's a time and a place people can turn up.
And, who knows, it might just be three/four men a dog and a whistle again... but you've got a better chance of it being more.
Not sure why Cov Rugby wouldn't welcome people from the city supporting them over Wasps. Like you say lots of people did at the Sixfields time.
The poster doesn't really seem to know what they are talking about and just trying to cause trouble.
The PR game is not strong in this case.
90%, are you sure?
90%, are you sure?
I'm on holiday in Ireland .... Is that a problem ?
Wasps say they won't conclude long term rent unless the legal action is dropped.
Wasps are not offering a good enough academy option
They need pressure to continue negotiations and improve the academy access.
SISU need to be pressured into stating that they will be dropping pointless legal action if they get a long term rent deal and academy deal sorted.
If they refuse to do this the only option is a new stadium. They need to do a hell of a lot more than identifying a couple of sites which is all they have done in 3-4 years.
Council need to be pressured into helping CCFC by identifying sites in the city. If the BPA is acceptable at its size then plenty of other sites that size are in the city itself.
All sides need pressure from the fans
Tbf that kind of opinion does exist in their fanbase,Not sure why Cov Rugby wouldn't welcome people from the city supporting them over Wasps. Like you say lots of people did at the Sixfields time.
The poster doesn't really seem to know what they are talking about and just trying to cause trouble.
The PR game is not strong in this case and this is the type of shit we are up against.
TBF that sort of opinion does exist down, got told to fuck off back to the footy while chatting about all the shit and being overheard.Not sure why Cov Rugby wouldn't welcome people from the city supporting them over Wasps. Like you say lots of people did at the Sixfields time.
The poster doesn't really seem to know what they are talking about and just trying to cause trouble.
The PR game is not strong in this case and this is the type of shit we are up against.
Wow, the level of anger on this thread (and other recent ones) in doing and supporting action against an organisation doing untold damages to our club is quite encouraging. It is just a damn shame that some of those same posters sat back and did nothing (except say we need to blame all sides but still pile into just one) when a similar organisation did untold damage to our club.
When we had the chance to stage mass sit ins, walk outs or pitch invasions at Northampton, what did we get from some people? Oh that's it, "we just want to support the team".
When Sisu/Otium or whoever staged and ran the administration for their own end, what did get from some people? Oh that's it, "we just want all of the truth to come out" (whilst just blaming one side).
When we had the JR's going we had some posters talking about smoking guns and legal wrong doings. Judges with far more knowledge than anyone on here decided that there wasn't so then some posters moved said goalposts and spoke about things that were morally wrong.
Now before I get all the usual (as I've had before) council lover, Wasps lover and CCFC hater shite, I have always believed all parties have had a part to play in where we are. However, the council have far more than us to think about, who can blame the owners of Wasps for seizing an opportunity which presented itself and the Higgs trust for the way they were stuck in the middle. People talk about underlying factors in our situation but the main fact to me is that Sisu/Otium ARE our owners, they have a direct responsibility to the care of our club and a duty of care to us fans. They have failed miserably on all counts.
So people now give out the usual "we blame all sides" bollocks yet forget that any action should be against EVERYONE. If we flood a Wasps game, then the next week why don't we all boycott a CCFC game when we could have a mass protest/kickabout outside the council house. Why don't we put pressure on ALL local news outlets to get answers from everyone involved. Why don't we try and get contact details to phone/email/talk to anybody in positions of power, such as Higgs and the academy, Wasps and negotiations, Fisher and imaginary stadium plans and the council and why they have taken such a stance towards the club.
But no, I get the impression that some posters will just continue on certain paths against certain organisations except the one that has a direct responsibility to our club and us.
Oh and Samo, grow up.
I've asked several times - how can you insist an organisation that owns another organisation stop legal action against another party?
I've asked several times - how can you insist an organisation that owns another organisation stop legal action against another party?
[QUOTE="dongonzalos, post: 1098631]They need to do a hell of a lot more than identifying a couple of sites which is all they have done in 3-4 years.
Quite simple you sign an out of court settlement on same moment you sign up for the 20 year rental contract and academy deal.
The deal is the out of court settlement.
Where are the others, the only one I have heard them identify is the Butts.
Quite simple you sign an out of court settlement on same moment you sign up for the 20 year rental contract and academy deal.
The deal is the out of court settlement.
An out of court settlement for what. Surely the minute it's signed sisu would go straight to court and said it's been forced to sign an agreement to avoid bankruptcy that protects a third party.
This potentially would be explosive as it surely would imply that there's been collusion between wasps and the council?
What's actually to stop action resuming the minute something is signed?
Tim Fisher said there was an out of town site the other day
Do you think that they would put that on the table?
My concern is that Wasps/CCC are not exactly trustworthy. It could easily transpire that SISU drop legals and then suddenly their promises don't come to pass.
The out of court settlement would stop it. That's the whole point of them. You can try and deflect it as much as you like.
It's a compromise reached by two parties if SISU are happy to sign it and it is what Wasps want an end to SISU's legal action that involves them as an interested party then that's that.
Why would you now promote CRFC ? Just to suit your own agenda ? ... Why didn't you want to promote us and turn up when Wasps moved in back in 2014 ? .... If CCFC had agreed a deal with Wasps this week about the academy and the Ricoh you wouldn't give a toss about CRFC, so why do you care so much now ? .... If loads of you turned up just to further your own agenda I have to say you wouldn't be welcomed by me. Imagine the uproar if it was the other way round !
Reading a lot of the posts about this whole sorry situation illustrates why perhaps nobody takes this forum seriously. For a start the moderators need to do their job and not allow posters to incite criminal acts amongst many other things.
I too hate the fact Wasps moved in but it's happened and all the bitching in the world won't change it. You need to address what's happened and deal with it like adults not like a bunch of st trinians schoolgirls planning their next misdemeanour ! Make some kind of adult representations to Wasps rather than suggesting smashing the place up, running on the pitch etc etc .... Some of you need to grow up and get real, you may be surprised where it gets you.
Tim Fisher said there was an out of town site the other day
Both contracts signed at the same time.
That would no be legal it would tie both actions together.
So the agreement would be asking for wasps to be removed from any claim?
Surely you aren't seriously suggesting they would agree to that and why should they? That's effectively trying to usurp legal process and having agreed a deal there would be no legal requirement to sign it - they would certainly instantly be able to take wasps to court and seek to invalidate it.
Also they would still be able to pursue new action.
Interestingly of course wasps refuse to make a statement saying talks have stopped due to legal actions. I wonder why.
You do know what an out of court settlement is don't you?
Talking to someone today who agreed with the pipe dream bit and said if we want to make a point straight away then why not one evening this week ribbon the Ricoh and council house. Won't change the world but better than doing nothing! Would only take you and a couple of others on here to say what day and a fair few would turn up1. We are never going to pack the ground out - it's a pipe dream
2. If the club got promoted we'd be seen as a bigger threat to wasps - they want to be the biggest sports club in this city. The more we threaten that the more impossible it would be to secure a deal to stay.
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