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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #1
Potentially of interest to Sky Blues fans: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-stadium-sale-imminent-greyhound-6733122


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asb

New Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #2
Until the sale goes through and we know who has purchased the site everything is going to be guesswork on here. So I await the final confirmation of the deal.

Cue the following arguments and threads starting

"Sisu are building a stadium"
"Sisu will never get planning permission"
"Sisu lost out to a site"
"Will you go to a stadium at Brandon"
"Coventry City have gone to the Dogs"

For some this will be evidence of a stadium, for others, evidence that there will be less chance of a stadium.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #3
On your bike fisher!!!!!!!!!!!
Going round in circles!!!!!!!!!
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #4
Only if they're thinking of buying a house on the new housing development that will end up there.

With regards to otium or sisu etc buying it for a new ground. I just can't see it.

Myself and my family have been following short circuit motor sport at the venue all my life (41 years) and I can never remember a time when one local residents group or another wasn't trying to get it closed down because of noise pollution and traffic chaos, especially when the f1 stock cars are visiting. I was also always under the impression that the dogs only just got agreed to be on as there was a long history of the sport being there in the past, much to the local residents annoyance.

So the chances of getting change of use to a football venue imo is nil.

Just to add. I'm also sure that the site has a 10pm curfew on it. What would happen in a mid week cup game that needed extra time and penalties?
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #5
Thank you Simon this is relevant to Sky Blue fans for two reasons, a) Potentially this could be the site for the new Stadium* b) It could be another option ruled out if Coventry City Football Club don't purchase it, meaning the choices of land in the local area become very slim.

* I say potentially as I am sure many will take great pride in reminding me it's not going to happen.
 
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shy_tall_knight

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #6
won't be a new stadium here. The road infrastructure is too poor onr only 1 road in and out. We struggle to get planning permission for a few houses
 
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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #7
Not sure what will happen to Brandon when it's sold ? The speedway is supposed to be there until 2024, might be ground sharing with cov bees
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #8
Its definitely big enough for a 12,000 seater stadium with 2000 fans in it.
 
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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #9
italiahorse said:
Its definitely big enough for a 12,000 seater stadium with 2000 fans in it.
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We can climb the big oak tree by the bottom fence and watch the games from there, Jimmy's tree ?
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #10
Fisher has already said its not CCFC
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #11
It's in green belt as well as everything else, so it's definitely a non-runner for a new stadium, imho.

Anyway, they were probably mis-quoted. I'm sure we'll soon hear that they were never interested in Brandon anyway.
 
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Sba180

Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #12
What if...sisu buy it for redevelopment but sell ccfc?

I know the chances are very remote, but this might be a return on their losses?
 
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Sba180

Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #13
quinn1971 said:
We can climb the big oak tree by the bottom fence and watch the games from there, Jimmy's tree ?
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Cofa's tree
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #14
halftimebovril said:
What if...sisu buy it for redevelopment but sell ccfc?

I know the chances are very remote, but this might be a return on their losses?
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They would have to buy it at market value.
Its more likely to be housing.

Bees to the Ricoh ?
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #15
italiahorse said:
Fisher has already said its not CCFC
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Or is it a double bluff ???
 
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Sba180

Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #16
italiahorse said:
They would have to buy it at market value.
Its more likely to be housing.

Bees to the Ricoh ?
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Why dont they put the British speedway GP there? Cardiff is great, fantastic atmosphere etc, but its not particularly central
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #17
italiahorse said:
Or is it a double bluff ???
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I thought it had the wrong type of badger droppings?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #18
Am I also right in thinking that the guy who promotes the speedway also just signed a 10year lease on the site?

If true a major house builder buying the site would make more sense again. They all have huge land banks of mainly green belt (which im sure Brandon is still currently classed as) that they sit on until they can get planning permission on. This would mean that the speedway could see out there lease.

While working on a Westbury's site many years ago they got took over by Persimmon's and the area manager told me it was for the land bank that Westbury's had.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #19
yes just confirmed on CWR not CCFC.
italiahorse said:
Fisher has already said its not CCFC
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #20
letsallsingtogether said:
yes just confirmed on CWR not CCFC.
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Change of tune since July when this was the story in the Coventry Telegraph.

Coventry City FC have secured a provisional deal to buy the Brandon speedway site to build a new stadium. The site has been sold to the Sky Blues subject to contract.
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http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/sky-blues-agree-deal-buy-5317030
Although I have to note that was a Les Reid story.:thinking about:
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #21
How does that hymn go....."There is a green hill far away, without a city..."

As long as TF doesn't mind us playing up/down a slope, then maybe we could move there?......and if it's far away... from Sixfields, who knows we might be able to get back nearer home (not the Burton Dasset Hills 'cos there'd be an hour's extra time each game, added on for getting the ball back )
 
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Jack Griffin

Guest
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #22
BBC C&W Sport ‏@BBCcovsport 3h
Mick Horton owner of @OfficialCovBees has told us speedway is safe at Brandon for now. Beyond that he needs an longer lease or relocation
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #23
skybluetony176 said:
Only if they're thinking of buying a house on the new housing development that will end up there.

With regards to otium or sisu etc buying it for a new ground. I just can't see it.

Myself and my family have been following short circuit motor sport at the venue all my life (41 years) and I can never remember a time when one local residents group or another wasn't trying to get it closed down because of noise pollution and traffic chaos, especially when the f1 stock cars are visiting. I was also always under the impression that the dogs only just got agreed to be on as there was a long history of the sport being there in the past, much to the local residents annoyance.

So the chances of getting change of use to a football venue imo is nil.

Just to add. I'm also sure that the site has a 10pm curfew on it. What would happen in a mid week cup game that needed extra time and penalties?
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Do you see the speedway team as representing Coventry?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #24
Yes as they have always been situated there as far back as I can remember not the sort of sport you want in the middle of the city with all the noise and pollution.
Grendel said:
Do you see the speedway team as representing Coventry?
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #25
letsallsingtogether said:
Yes as they have always been situated there as far back as I can remember not the sort of sport you want in the middle of the city with all the noise and pollution.
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The speedway team now known as Coventry Bees have always been at Brandon they did not move there same as Grimsby Town always being in Cleethorpes albeit at three different grounds. This is a completely different situation from CCFC moving outside the city
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #26
Yes and I don't go to speedway.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
The speedway team now known as Coventry Bees have always been at Brandon they did not move there same as Grimsby Town always being in Cleethorpes albeit at three different grounds. This is a completely different situation from CCFC moving outside the city
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Sba180

Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #27
letsallsingtogether said:
Yes as they have always been situated there as far back as I can remember not the sort of sport you want in the middle of the city with all the noise and pollution.
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Belle vue ride in the middle of Manchester i think. Happy to be corrected
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #28
Grendel said:
Do you see the speedway team as representing Coventry?
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You're asking the wrong person. Its four wheels I go and watch there not two.

Do you?
 
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1940 oldfive

Guest
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #29
somebody knows their history:thinking about:
halftimebovril said:
Cofa's tree
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Noggin

New Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #30
Grendel said:
Do you see the speedway team as representing Coventry?
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I know there is a lot of gnashing of teeth over being slightly outside Coventry but it really is the least serious of the issues about the new stadium. Much more serious are

1) The cost to build being prohibitive, making no financial sense and being much worse than buying acl.
2) The time taken and damage to the club from playing away from home for years while it's built and I don't accept that the brighton situation in anyway suggests this isn't true,
3) The size of the new stadium firmly cementing us as a league 1 at best club for a long time to come.

and when it comes to the stadium in brandon it drops much further down the list as you can add
4) road network/transport links not good enough
5) probably insurmountable problem of the speedway lease
6) local opposition would likely prevent or at least seriously delay the building of a new stadium.

any new stadium perhaps being a mile or 2 further away from the city centre than the ricoh probably doesn't even make the top 10 list of the most serious issues regarding the current plans.

but of course you need to score cheap points by pointing out the speedway represent coventry despite its location.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 21, 2014
  • #31
halftimebovril said:
Belle vue ride in the middle of Manchester i think. Happy to be corrected
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But would you really want it ther.
My mate used to live right next to the main gates at Brandon not sure if he still lives there but when he tried to sell could not get any takers,
He only got it because it was all he could afford at the time after a divorce....So got shafted twice.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2014
  • #32
But they are happy with this as the Ricoh is soulless and was never our home.

But this Lego stadium will be.
If that is the case count me out will never go
They may as well make it a 7000 seater will never fill it.

Then again Sisu could sell it to the local council if they run out of money after all have rented off 2 might as well make it 3

Noggin said:
I know there is a lot of gnashing of teeth over being slightly outside Coventry but it really is the least serious of the issues about the new stadium. Much more serious are

1) The cost to build being prohibitive, making no financial sense and being much worse than buying acl.
2) The time taken and damage to the club from playing away from home for years while it's built and I don't accept that the brighton situation in anyway suggests this isn't true,
3) The size of the new stadium firmly cementing us as a league 1 at best club for a long time to come.

and when it comes to the stadium in brandon it drops much further down the list as you can add
4) road network/transport links not good enough
5) probably insurmountable problem of the speedway lease
6) local opposition would likely prevent or at least seriously delay the building of a new stadium.

any new stadium perhaps being a mile or 2 further away from the city centre than the ricoh probably doesn't even make the top 10 list of the most serious issues regarding the current plans.

but of course you need to score cheap points by pointing out the speedway represent coventry despite its location.
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skybluesam98

New Member
  • Feb 22, 2014
  • #33
Noggin said:
6) local opposition would likely prevent or at least seriously delay the building of a new stadium.
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My grandma lives on speedway lane (directly next to stadium) and her and all of her neighbours are completely against having CCFC move their.
 
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ollyservetta

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 22, 2014
  • #34
any stadium further out than the ricoh with a smaller capacity than HR is a piss take ,.Ive hated the ricoh as ive always seen it as a constant reminder of why we left HR ,and all the shite that went on then .the ricoh is now our only option other than a 32000 capacity stadium closer to the city centre,anything else and its a massive step back .if the owners have the funds to build a new stadium then they hav the money to buy the ricoh and then the people of Coventry will get their money back to spend on essential services.anyone who knows football will know how long and hard it is to build a successful team and club,it seems that the owners only motive for the situation is to reduce the amount of fans, so to reduce the amount they have to please ,the chicken abusers who bought Blackburn made me cry with laughter when the gave their first statements ,what a joke they were,not a clue about football ,this lot are either on par or even worse than that shower of shite ,for me ther is no middle ground ,same capacity or larger than HR,clser than the ricoh to city centre ,or the ricoh,and if the latter ,finish the job ,ie the surrounding area,although it will never be the day out HR was , few round the town ,silver sword ,the three tuns ,Smithfield ,the tavern ,the game ,fishymoores after ,few round the town then tiffanys ,wat a day out
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Feb 22, 2014
  • #35
skybluesam98 said:
My grandma lives on speedway lane (directly next to stadium) and her and all of her neighbours are completely against having CCFC move their.
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I'm sure they are. Out of interest does she like the speedway stadium being there?
 
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