Can we compete (1 Viewer)

wingy · May 10, 2020

Specs WT-R75 said:
Possibly no better time to be going into the championship! Hear me out... our budget is currently in the region of 4-5m, and revenue should double before we even consider how we work out matchday (it will be ifollow model initially). Compare that with the rest of the Championship who have massive wage bills and real headaches how to fund the next year. So if we are clever we should be able to keep the players we want and poach a few gems from L1 that don't get promoted. If we can keep Walsh and/or Ohare then I think we will have more than enough to compete.

Yeap
Very much my view .
The established teams are going to be in a real ongoing pickle IMO .
We on the other hand , assuming the owner's have been doing their core business well , coupled to our low overheads,may find ourselves in an advantageous position .
There may for instance be a glut of player's on the move and downward pressure on salaries as teams jettison high earners and adjust for revised incomes as TV deals may also be less lucrative .
It may finally bring some sanity where owners have either been profligate with their booty or players via their agent's have rinsed every last cent from the game .
There may also be an exodus out of the game for some of the established millionaire players who don't need to dance to any tune but their own.

Magwitch · May 10, 2020

Certain that’s what will happen if by some miracle we can harness our promotion to a return to the Ricoh so when crowds are allowed to return we could be generating good income, prior to that if ifollow happens we should be earning through that source, we have a decent squad with a winning mentality, there are going to be some very good players looking for clubs, Mark Robins is a shrewd bloke I’m confident for next season.

better days · May 10, 2020

If we are promoted as I expect it will be interesting to see how it would change the landscape in any negotiations for the Ricoh
Wasps won't be getting any income from gate receipts for a while, the hotel must be in a similar position and parking and other associated revenue streams are buggered for the foreseeable future
Will this change the thinking of Wasps and their allies at CCC?
Things won't stay as they are forever and eventually fans will be allowed to return together with their money
And there would be a rental fee in the meantime
Don't have any inside info but just looking at this from a pragmatic viewpoint

Irish Sky Blue · May 10, 2020

marcusp said:
I think the majority have now started to have a more realistic view of the owners. Four years a go almost every supporter despised Sisu and wanted them out of the club. Given the past two seasons and the truth coming out about the council, wasps and the trust many of us whilst still not agreeing with Sisu and Fisher over the way they have treated fans historically can now see that Sisu have actually levelled the club financially and put things in place to get us where we are now and hopefully back in the championship.

at this moment in time I am happy to keep going a long with Sisu at the club as there are other clubs aka Sunderland, Birmingham, Blackpool etc who have been taken over and found a pot of shit at the end of the rainbow instead of the promised gold

They leave Boddy and Robins to get on with the running of the club and keep Fisher away from a camera or a microphone. Apart from that I don't see that anything is different. Success on the field doesn't excuse the way that they have run the club.

Magwitch · May 10, 2020

I think Fisher has been kept away for a while let’s be honest we haven’t heard a peep from him during this quiet serious situation we are in at the moment. Now I’ve said that he’s bound to stick his head above the parapet.

mrtrench · May 10, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
I can assure you we will not be signing Ivan Toney. He would probably cost as much as our entire wage budget for the year

I reckon that if we get another striker, it'll be someone we've never heard of - which was the case with most signings last summer: youth players from other clubs; players from abroad; Bosmans from other sides who were not household names.

I was looking at the Chelsea youth team yesterday. There's quite a few on loan in Europe this year and some of them have been doing well. Now I'm not suggesting that we'd get a forward for free like Dabo, but £1m might bring someone here who isn't ever going to play in the Chelsea first 11 but with time will play in the Premiership. Icke Ugbo for example - 22 next season - now at loan at Roda JC in Holland - contract ends this June - 13 goals, scoring 1 every two games and their top scorer. At 22 it's possibly too late for him now at Chelsea. Someone like that I reckon.

On-Loan Players | Official Site | Chelsea Football Club

Sky Blue Pete · May 10, 2020

Irish Sky Blue said:
They leave Boddy and Robins to get on with the running of the club and keep Fisher away from a camera or a microphone. Apart from that I don't see that anything is different. Success on the field doesn't excuse the way that they have run the club.

That’s bang on

usskyblue · May 10, 2020

Irish Sky Blue said:
Success on the field doesn't excuse the way that they have run the club.

Okay. Bullshit alert

Did you ever sing ‘Richardson Out’ when we were in the Premiership ?

lord_garrincha · May 10, 2020

I think most championship clubs over the last 3 years have loaned a player from Chelsea... lets hope the Viveash connection means we are at the front of the queue.

lord_garrincha · May 10, 2020

usskyblue said:
Okay. Bullshit alert

Did you ever sing ‘Richardson Out’ when we were in the Premiership ?

Yes me, and I was glad when Kevin went to Southampton.

Grendel · May 10, 2020

usskyblue said:
Okay. Bullshit alert

Did you ever sing ‘Richardson Out’ when we were in the Premiership ?

Or if he is old enough “kill kill kill Jimmy Hill”

Sky Blue Pete · May 10, 2020

Wasps have shown the same ability as Sisu to cut off their nose and give not a hoot about their face. It’s clear that wasps have their own thoughts on what deal would be sufficient and it’s not the same as meets our needs. You’ve got to think there’s a mutually beneficial deal to agree

chiefdave · May 10, 2020

At the best of times its hard to call these things. We had people saying we'd struggle in L1 and people saying the team that got us promoted would walk L1.

We've got no idea who is coming in / going out and the added issue of not knowing if the league will start as usual and be in the usual format or how the shutdown will impact other clubs spending. We don't even know for sure we'll go up or how many team will be in the championship and how that impacts on how many relegation places there will be.

All things being equal it will be an achievement to stay up given how our budget is likely to compare to others. I hope that the current situation will finally force football to sort itself out and get finances under control but I suspect as soon as everyone is back it will be back to the normal mess.

Magwitch · May 10, 2020

usskyblue said:
Okay. Bullshit alert

Did you ever sing ‘Richardson Out’ when we were in the Premiership ?

In a way yes think it was a tv match crowd ran on the pitch after the match yelling board out etc, according to Richardson a possible investor was at the game and backed off from any involvement, now he wouldn’t bullshit us would he.

Brylowes · May 10, 2020

Sky Blue Pete said:
Wasps have shown the same ability as Sisu to cut off their nose and give not a hoot about their face. It’s clear that wasps have their own thoughts on what deal would be sufficient and it’s not the same as meets our needs. You’ve got to think there’s a mutually beneficial deal to agree

Well if there is ‘we can probably rely on these two not to find it.

SlowerThanPlatt · May 10, 2020

mrtrench said:
I reckon that if we get another striker, it'll be someone we've never heard of - which was the case with most signings last summer: youth players from other clubs; players from abroad; Bosmans from other sides who were not household names.

I was looking at the Chelsea youth team yesterday. There's quite a few on loan in Europe this year and some of them have been doing well. Now I'm not suggesting that we'd get a forward for free like Dabo, but £1m might bring someone here who isn't ever going to play in the Chelsea first 11 but with time will play in the Premiership. Icke Ugbo for example - 22 next season - now at loan at Roda JC in Holland - contract ends this June - 13 goals, scoring 1 every two games and their top scorer. At 22 it's possibly too late for him now at Chelsea. Someone like that I reckon.

On-Loan Players | Official Site | Chelsea Football Club

Chelsea are a good club to have connections with purely because they take so many on. The vast majority are never going to be good enough for the Premier League but will have decent league careers. Bristol City have been doing this they took Da Silva, Palmer and Kalas this season.

I’m unsure whether there’s a link as such though to get loans and it may just be released players who aren’t contracted to Chelsea who he has a good relationship with. Viveash did an interview a few months back and he said he was shocked to be sacked there

"The way things ended for me at Chelsea was certainly a shock," Viveash said in an hour-long interview with Goal. "It shows that you can do as good of a job as you think you can and then someone taps you on the shoulder and say that's enough.

SlowerThanPlatt · May 10, 2020

lord_garrincha said:
I think most championship clubs over the last 3 years have loaned a player from Chelsea... lets hope the Viveash connection means we are at the front of the queue.

I don’t think it ended on the best of terms for him there. We haven’t took any of their players on loan. Dabo and Wakefield were frees

Nick · May 10, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
I don’t think it ended on the best of terms on there for him at Chelsea. We haven’t took any of their players on loan. Dabo and Wakefield were frees

Sterling?

SlowerThanPlatt · May 10, 2020

Nick said:
Sterling?

Yes forgot about him

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