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steve101 · Jan 1, 2023

I understand why Robins gave the captaincy to Jamie Allen as he works his socks off for the team. However, I think he has had 3 of his worst performances in the last 4 games. We have also witnessed collapses and disorganisation in that time. We need someone more vocal.
There is definitely a lack of leadership without McFadzean, Kelly and Godden, so it isn't easy to see obvious alternatives in their absence. For me, especially since his discipline has improved no end, it should be Hamer. If not, then Rose.
Any thoughts?

Greggs · Jan 1, 2023

Sheaf if we manage to stay up

no_loyalty · Jan 1, 2023

I vaguely remember Robins saying Allen is one of the quietest lads so a strange decision to make him captain.

Skyblue_CP · Jan 1, 2023

Bidwell for me, only one that seems to organise anything at set pieces etc.

PVA · Jan 1, 2023

Of the current starters either Hamer or Rose

ptr · Jan 1, 2023

Should be Hamer all day long. Allen needs a rest.

stupot07 · Jan 1, 2023

Bidwell, Rose or Hamer

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slyblue57 · Jan 1, 2023

Never understand why people think Allen offers anything.
He s as fit as a butchers dog and runs forever.
Thats the plus point.
Hes never within a metre of the opposition players. They have time to control the ball and pass it before Allen runs off to the next player who just does the same.
Hes so weak on the ball, easily brushed off when he gets it and maybe does a tackle a game.
Hes a very weak link in the midfield.
Pusb

larry_david · Jan 1, 2023

slyblue57 said:
Never understand why people think Allen offers anything.
He s as fit as a butchers dog and runs forever.
Thats the plus point.
Hes never within a metre of the opposition players. They have time to control the ball and pass it before Allen runs off to the next player who just does the same.
Hes so weak on the ball, easily brushed off when he gets it and maybe does a tackle a game.
Hes a very weak link in the midfield.
Pusb

Hate to agree but he's so lightweight it's scary

PVA · Jan 1, 2023

Allen's main problem is that everyone else on the pitch is a split second ahead of him, so he often gets caught on the ball or doesn't read his teammates movement.

Hobo · Jan 1, 2023

This is an interesting one as you can have so many different styles, abilities and personalities as captain.

Ultimately I think players pick the captain not the manager or fans.

Unless you have a George Curtis, Terry Yorath, Don Mackay or Jack Charton; who pins everyone to the dressing room wall one by one and says I'm Captain right? Those guys pick themselves!

stevefloyd · Jan 2, 2023

PVA said:
Allen's main problem is that everyone else on the pitch is a split second ahead of him, so he often gets caught on the ball or doesn't read his teammates movement.

You are being kind everyone on the pitch is a FULL second ahead of him, he is always late on closing down he gets blown off the ball and seems at times not to be aware he is being closed down, time and time again when he recieves the ball in space with his back towards the oppos goal he never turns and nearly always plays it back, he was decent for us in the lower league but at the very very best he is a squad player...If it wasn't for his energy I don't think he would get a game for us and as to being captain...jokes !

robbiethemole · Jan 2, 2023

If we’re looking for a new leader/ cb, Curtis Nelson at Cardiff is available this summer. Only 29 and lots of experience, maybe worth a look, rumours Derby are after him.

Terry Gibson's perm · Jan 2, 2023

Bidwell until the end of the season.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Jan 2, 2023

It does seem really strange to have a player who is described by others including the manager as quiet, to do a role like this.

Anyone that's been on a football pitch can tell you that.

shmmeee · Jan 2, 2023

Team desperately lacking leadership since Fadz has been out.

Sick Boy · Jan 2, 2023

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
It does seem really strange to have a player who is described by others including the manager as quiet, to do a role like this.

Anyone that's been on a football pitch can tell you that.

Not really, it's possible to have a different personality on and off the pitch, IMO.

shmmeee · Jan 2, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Not really, it's possible to have a different personality on and off the pitch, IMO.

Have you ever seen him communicating much on the field? We’re quiet as a team.

Sick Boy · Jan 2, 2023

shmmeee said:
Have you ever seen him communicating much on the field? We’re quiet as a team.

I've never really looked out to be honest - agreed that we're quiet and have long been pretty meek in general.

robbiekeane · Jan 2, 2023

shmmeee said:
Have you ever seen him communicating much on the field? We’re quiet as a team.

Being vocal isn’t necessarily required to be a good leader

LJN · Jan 2, 2023

While fadz is out, hamer or Bidwell for me. Hamer has improved his discipline since the early part of the season and Bidwell is currently the most experienced head in the defence.

Allen is not up to it unfortunately and has looked out his depth a lot this season.

Cata · Jan 2, 2023

steve101 said:
I understand why Robins gave the captaincy to Jamie Allen as he works his socks off for the team. However, I think he has had 3 of his worst performances in the last 4 games. We have also witnessed collapses and disorganisation in that time. We need someone more vocal.
There is definitely a lack of leadership without McFadzean, Kelly and Godden, so it isn't easy to see obvious alternatives in their absence. For me, especially since his discipline has improved no end, it should be Hamer. If not, then Rose.
Any thoughts?

both better calls than Allen. What about Bidwell as an outside bet?

Cata · Jan 2, 2023

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Bidwell until the end of the season.

OK until Kelly or Fadz are back

johnwillomagic · Jan 2, 2023

we miss Fadz badly but Bidwell for me in his absence!

Sick Boy · Jan 2, 2023

Cata said:
OK until Kelly or Fadz are back

Kelly isn’t going to be starting regularly for us again.

Grendel · Jan 2, 2023

Cata said:
OK until Kelly or Fadz are back

kelly hopefully isn’t coming back

WestEndAgro · Jan 2, 2023

If anyone saw the recent Jamie Allen interview, you can see why he isn't captain material.
He struggled to string a sentence together, he also looked scared of his own shadow.
Never a leader imo.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Jan 2, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Not really, it's possible to have a different personality on and off the pitch, IMO.

Sick Boy said:
I've never really looked out to be honest - agreed that we're quiet and have long been pretty meek in general.

You've been too quick to jump in here. Watch him next game.

robbiekeane said:
Being vocal isn’t necessarily required to be a good leader

Are you serious? If your leadership role is on the football pitch, you absolutely need to be vocal.

ProfessorbyGrace · Jan 2, 2023

Since I can’t attend matches, unless it’s Swansea or Cardiff away, maybe Brizzle, I have no idea who’s the most vocal/loudest player in our team; who is it?

In my experience, it’s usually the big gob, flapping his arms around at set pieces who would be ideal captain material. I remember Kevin Richardson doing a lot of that, and he was a decent captain of a relatively bang average City side.

PVA · Jan 2, 2023

I have seen Allen getting stuck in with refs to be fair to him.

Haven't noticed if he's overly vocal with the other players or not.

Anyway the captaincy is largely a token gesture anyway. The most vocal players will stand up and be heard regardless of who is wearing the armband.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Jan 2, 2023

I’d say one of Bidwell, Hamer and Sheaf

Deleted member 9744 · Jan 2, 2023

Sick Boy said:
Kelly isn’t going to be starting regularly for us again.

To be honest I wish I could say the same about Allen.

CCFC54321 · Jan 2, 2023

If the club is to move forward then Allen needs to move on. I’ve never since day one seen what he contributes to the team. Working your balls off is a given but I agree with everything written on this thread. Offers nothing for me.

pusbccfc · Jan 2, 2023

WestEndAgro said:
If anyone saw the recent Jamie Allen interview, you can see why he isn't captain material.
He struggled to string a sentence together, he also looked scared of his own shadow.
Never a leader imo.

He was strange at his Tavern interview. Not many braincells and very shy.

Says a lot when he's captain.

pusbccfc · Jan 2, 2023

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I’d say one of Bidwell, Hamer and Sheaf

Even Sheaf is a little shy. If the going gets tough, we look like a bunch of lost puppies.

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