CCBCFC Stadium (2 Viewers)

mattylad · Nov 19, 2014

Heard a rumour at work today and it is just a rumour because no one knows where it started from that we are looking at a site between Tile Hill and Balsall Common...this will also enable us to work with Warwick University where we are looking to build our new academy and an academy pitch with a small stand which will be shared with the university. (communiversity?)

Bit of a bollock for me if true and I want a pint but guess I could get the bus in to town and train to Balsall Common but thoughts???

pusbccfc · Nov 19, 2014

Would never happen due to the green belt land etc.

CCFC88 · Nov 19, 2014

Not sure how the good folk of BC would feel about that, I grew up in Tile Hill and went to school in Balsall, the impression I got of the people over there that they would protest the opening of a chip shop let alone a football stadium on their green land.

HS2 set to disturb a fair bit of the green land around that area also I believe.

ccfc_Tom · Nov 19, 2014

Sound like flloyds field?

torchomatic · Nov 19, 2014

Sound like all those twats from Stoneleigh who ruined the Thomsonfly thing from Coventry Airport.

dalycov said:
Not sure how the good folk of BC would feel about that, I grew up in Tile Hill and went to school in Balsall, the impression I got of the people over there that they would protest the opening of a chip shop let alone a football stadium on their green land.

HS2 set to disturb a fair bit of the green land around that area also I believe.

pusbccfc · Nov 19, 2014

dalycov said:
Not sure how the good folk of BC would feel about that, I grew up in Tile Hill and went to school in Balsall, the impression I got of the people over there that they would protest the opening of a chip shop let alone a football stadium on their green land.

HS2 set to disturb a fair bit of the green land around that area also I believe.

The majority of the Balsall folk are wannabe brummies.

sw88 · Nov 19, 2014

Be ideal for me. Go for it City

duffer · Nov 19, 2014

My end of town, more or less. Pretty much all green belt when you get past the old Massey's site, until you hit Solihull. HS2 is carving through this gap too, which will cause moderate carnage, but wouldn't in itself probably matter to any new stadium.

It would be very hard to build something so big in the green belt though, I'd fancy. Posh residents means more organised protests. SISU could ultimately end on the opposite side of a JR here. The irony.

torchomatic · Nov 19, 2014

We should ground share in Wycombe I reckon. Me and Italia could share the petrol costs.

pusbccfc · Nov 19, 2014

We could have a HS2 station at the ground and recruit a fan base from London .

Ashdown · Nov 19, 2014

torchomatic said:
Sound like all those twats from Stoneleigh who ruined the Thomsonfly thing from Coventry Airport.

I enjoyed the flights out of Cov, made 5 trips. It was great seeing Cov up on the board in places like Salzburg and Rome !
All that said a new stadium won't be suited either to an out of town position on the green belt, it should be on a brownfield site no more than 3 miles outside of CV1 !

torchomatic · Nov 19, 2014

Yeah, we made quite a few flights from there. We went to Rome on our honeymoon from Cov.

Ashdown said:
I enjoyed the flights out of Cov, made 5 trips. It was great seeing Cov up on the board in places like Salzburg and Rome !
All that said a new stadium won't be suited either to an out of town position on the green belt, it should be on a brownfield site no more than 3 miles outside of CV1 !

Hobo · Nov 19, 2014

pusbccfc said:
Would never happen due to the green belt land etc.

Yeah green belt reserved for a fast rail link to London. Perhaps the government knew about the Wasps/Ricoh deal years ago? But the last bit might be just another rumour?

skyblu3sk · Nov 19, 2014

Think they would struggle anywhere near BC, Any patch of land would be expensive as developers are always trying to find land they can build houses on. I think developments on Green best have been put forward before and always rejected. Towards Tile hill I can't spot any brownfield sites either as the old college has been built on as has Masseys. It would make sense to put it near the railway line if it is out of town maybe get a station built in 10-20 years... I just moved to BC though so would like it this side of town or in the centre.

Cheshire Sky Blue · Nov 19, 2014

mattylad said:
Heard a rumour at work today and it is just a rumour because no one knows where it started from that we are looking at a site between Tile Hill and Balsall Common...this will also enable us to work with Warwick University where we are looking to build our new academy and an academy pitch with a small stand which will be shared with the university. (communiversity?)

Bit of a bollock for me if true and I want a pint but guess I could get the bus in to town and train to Balsall Common but thoughts???

Don't concern yourself with travel plans mattylad, we all know that there is no new stadium. That fact won't stop Timmy talking about it as if it were real, he will keep dribbling dross until they (SISU) have gone, but a new stadium will remain a figment of his imagination.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 19, 2014

Cheshire Sky Blue said:
Don't concern yourself with travel plans mattylad, we all know that there is no new stadium. That fact won't stop Timmy talking about it as if it were real, he will keep dribbling dross until they (SISU) have gone, but a new stadium will remain a figment of his imagination.

An even bigger figment of imagination is the idea that Wasps will do anything but charge us to the hilt to play in their black and yellow stadium. We have to go.

Astute · Nov 19, 2014

Sounds like the normal rubbish we hear. But......

It would make sense of the three weeks becoming 3 years. Land and properties close to the rail link will become vastly devalued. Compo is only getting paid if you are very close to the line. But who would sell at at vastly devalued amount until the rail link is 100% happening? And if there are residents close by they wouldn't want to pre warn them for a long time before the planning stage as they would have plenty of time to get together and protest.

Still don't believe it, but for once something makes sense.

ccfcway · Nov 19, 2014

Ashdown said:
I enjoyed the flights out of Cov,!

typical Coventry. Build something and then its not fit for purpose

wingy · Nov 19, 2014

duffer said:
My end of town, more or less. Pretty much all green belt when you get past the old Massey's site, until you hit Solihull. HS2 is carving through this gap too, which will cause moderate carnage, but wouldn't in itself probably matter to any new stadium.

It would be very hard to build something so big in the green belt though, I'd fancy. Posh residents means more organised protests. SISU could ultimately end on the opposite side of a JR here. The irony.

How about Rough close ??

Ecologically sound ,fell a few on Site Pine's ,get the Scouts to bind It all together with Hemp ,bowling green standard surface .

I'd have been able to see It from my back bedroom window back In the day .

mark_ccfc · Nov 19, 2014

I can just see it now - SISU get planning permission, generate funding from investors - spend a year or two developing the site and stadium and then it has to be knocked down because of HS2 coming through, and Joy and Timmy crying "Lack of due diligence" in the newspapers and taking the HS2 project to court.

SkyBlueM · Nov 19, 2014

The best idea would be to flatten a few houses/businesses in the Highfield Road area of Coventry then we would have a fine site for a stadium, I also believe there's a precedent in having a stadium there.

CCFC88 · Nov 19, 2014

Astute said:
Sounds like the normal rubbish we hear. But......

It would make sense of the three weeks becoming 3 years. Land and properties close to the rail link will become vastly devalued. Compo is only getting paid if you are very close to the line. But who would sell at at vastly devalued amount until the rail link is 100% happening? And if there are residents close by they wouldn't want to pre warn them for a long time before the planning stage as they would have plenty of time to get together and protest.

Still don't believe it, but for once something makes sense.

Pretty sure the HS2 is 100% happening if that's what you're referring to as the rail link, residents that are to be affected have been told and provisional offers on houses made, sites have been located for construction depots etc

fernandopartridge · Nov 19, 2014

Hasn't the government relaxed green belt planning laws? It was certainly talked about a few years back.

Cheshire Sky Blue · Nov 19, 2014

Brighton Sky Blue said:
An even bigger figment of imagination is the idea that Wasps will do anything but charge us to the hilt to play in their black and yellow stadium. We have to go.

You seem to believe that ACL / WASPS will charge a level of rent that fails to be commercially viable, that is conjecture. I think that they will work to achieve a viable rent for tenants. The business model today is very different from when CCFC were anchor and sole tenants. ACL have the Wasps revenue stream, a lower level of debt (Circa 13 million mortgage) and a very long time to make it pay.

I have said repeatedly that I was really disappointed that CCFC don't own the Arena and that Wasps do. But FFS its done. Lets find the best way forward. In my view building a new stadium is a non starter. I believe this not because I do not want us to own our own stadium, but because it will cost Circa 40 million and take 5-6 years. (Just think about Northampton who have burned 12 million and still have only a half built stand) and I will speculate that SISU do not have access to that type of funding.

Think about it, If you had 40 million, would you give it to JS or TF? I sure as hell would not.

lordsummerisle · Nov 19, 2014

dalycov said:
Not sure how the good folk of BC would feel about that, I grew up in Tile Hill and went to school in Balsall, the impression I got of the people over there that they would protest the opening of a chip shop let alone a football stadium on their green land.

HS2 set to disturb a fair bit of the green land around that area also I believe.

They didn't seem to mind the swingers club...

fernandopartridge · Nov 19, 2014

Cheshire Sky Blue said:
You seem to believe that ACL / WASPS will charge a level of rent that fails to be commercially viable, that is conjecture. I think that they will work to achieve a viable rent for tenants. The business model today is very different from when CCFC were anchor and sole tenants. ACL have the Wasps revenue stream, a lower level of debt (Circa 13 million mortgage) and a very long time to make it pay.

I have said repeatedly that I was really disappointed that CCFC don't own the Arena and that Wasps do. But FFS its done. Lets find the best way forward. In my view building a new stadium is a non starter. I believe this not because I do not want us to own our own stadium, but because it will cost Circa 40 million and take 5-6 years. (Just think about Northampton who have burned 12 million and still have only a half built stand) and I will speculate that SISU do not have access to that type of funding.

Think about it, If you had 40 million, would you give it to JS or TF? I sure as hell would not.

You don't know how Wasps financed the £5.5m for the shares. Where does the £10m charge from Derek Richardson sit?

lordsummerisle · Nov 19, 2014

torchomatic said:
Sound like all those twats from Stoneleigh who ruined the Thomsonfly thing from Coventry Airport.

When I used to work at Coventry Airport, we'd always get several noise complaints at 0610 on the dot complaining about the noise of a Thomsonfly aircraft taking off.

All part of a concerted campaingn from Bibbenhall and Stoneleigh to get the flights stopped, all call based on the schedule.

Pointing out to them that the flight didn't actually operate that morning never made any difference, the fact that they would all set their alarm clocks to get up to make a complaint really got to me to be honest.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 19, 2014

Cheshire Sky Blue said:
You seem to believe that ACL / WASPS will charge a level of rent that fails to be commercially viable, that is conjecture. I think that they will work to achieve a viable rent for tenants. The business model today is very different from when CCFC were anchor and sole tenants. ACL have the Wasps revenue stream, a lower level of debt (Circa 13 million mortgage) and a very long time to make it pay.

I have said repeatedly that I was really disappointed that CCFC don't own the Arena and that Wasps do. But FFS its done. Lets find the best way forward. In my view building a new stadium is a non starter. I believe this not because I do not want us to own our own stadium, but because it will cost Circa 40 million and take 5-6 years. (Just think about Northampton who have burned 12 million and still have only a half built stand) and I will speculate that SISU do not have access to that type of funding.

Think about it, If you had 40 million, would you give it to JS or TF? I sure as hell would not.

How kind of Wasps. Sorry, but they will not want us there unless they can profit in some way from it-that is just common sense. Playing in a stadium that so obviously isn't home and being charged to do so is my idea of the ultimate piss take.

I would rather we have a two bob basic stadium which can be readily expanded than accept the club's humiliation in the Wasps' nest.

pusbccfc · Nov 19, 2014

Apparently they are due to build 2000 houses between Eastern Green and Millisons Wood/Meriden. That certainly would be green belt land and would suggest that they have relaxed laws.

Although it's never, ever going to happen, that area wouldn't be too bad considering the A45 is seconds away.

Tomh111 · Nov 19, 2014

Could we not bulldoze a load of those horrible steel houses in Canley? would be near the city centre and my great nan lives there and is refusing to move otherwise, 2 birds with 1 stone.

AndreasB · Nov 19, 2014

lordsummerisle said:
When I used to work at Coventry Airport, we'd always get several noise complaints at 0610 on the dot complaining about the noise of a Thomsonfly aircraft taking off.

All part of a concerted campaingn from Bibbenhall and Stoneleigh to get the flights stopped, all call based on the schedule.

Pointing out to them that the flight didn't actually operate that morning never made any difference, the fact that they would all set their alarm clocks to get up to make a complaint really got to me to be honest.

Were you there when the Veal crate plane crashed? 92 wasnt it? Never really gets a mention these days.

torchomatic · Nov 19, 2014

I was in Safeway at the time - the place that's now an Asda, I think. All the lights went out and they herded us outside.

AndreasB said:
Were you there when the Veal crate plane crashed? 92 wasnt it? Never really gets a mention these days.

fernandopartridge · Nov 19, 2014

AndreasB said:
Were you there when the Veal crate plane crashed? 92 wasnt it? Never really gets a mention these days.

Christmas 94 it was.

Remember when that Jill Phipps got run over too?

AndreasB · Nov 19, 2014

fernandopartridge said:
Christmas 94 it was.

Remember when that Jill Phipps got run over too?

737 wasnt it? got "lost" in the fog diverted from East Midlands

lordsummerisle · Nov 19, 2014

AndreasB said:
Were you there when the Veal crate plane crashed? 92 wasnt it? Never really gets a mention these days.

No before my time there that was, was there when the Channel Express F27 went off the end of the runway onto the road outside, and when the replica of Bleriots's plane crashed at the Airshow though.

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