It really just never ends does it ?! Why us, why Coventry City ? Essentially we are faced with a choice of new Landlords{ who with their track record I expect SISU will fall out with double quick} or a small identikit piece of shit stadium somewhere in the Coventry area which will ultimately limit us forever more to a footballing status something akin to Doncaster Rovers. Marvellous, happy days !
Duty bound, my arse. They were always going to give it all to Wasps.
Surprise surprise. The Royal Sham appears to defend his mates. What ever happened to PWKH?
I don't want a new stadium, but we do need access to matchday and additional revenue to progress. We've been treading water before sinking whilst we've been at the Ricoh. A rental deal only is no good to us and is just more of the same.
I really don't know what the answer is. Basically nothing's changed short term, but now we're very likely fooked in the medium to long term future.
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Ah, so about the same if not more than Wasps?
It really just never ends does it ?! Why us, why Coventry City ? Essentially we are faced with a choice of new Landlords{ who with their track record I expect SISU will fall out with double quick} or a small identikit piece of shit stadium somewhere in the Coventry area which will ultimately limit us forever more to a footballing status something akin to Doncaster Rovers. Marvellous, happy days !
A rental deal can work. If the product on the pitch is attractive you will get supporters back up to old levels. Wasps need a partner going forward as it is incremental revenue, if the club put a little investment on the pitch instead of servicing debts to themselves you would be able to do this. A long term rental deal at sustainable levels coupled to access to match day revenues is infinitely more palatable than a huge mortgage around the clubs neck. Does any one not think that SISU would not charge rent at the mortgage able rate plus a management fee for letting the club play in this new stadium. Their would be a SISU added tax on everything purchased in the ground with a minimum going back into the club, we are owned by a vampire company that will continue to bleed us dry until their is nothing left. When will people wake up and stop blaming the Higgs or the Council, SISU have bought everything upon themselves. Until these leaches leave then we will continue to fall at every hurdle, sell the odd gem of a youth player and put out a product on the pitch that will consistently tread water.
Let's hope PWKH doesn't return. We'd only have the likes of Tony and Italia falling over themselves, dicks in hand, seeing who can give him the most 'likes'.Surprise surprise. The Royal Sham appears to defend his mates. What ever happened to PWKH?
More supporters in the ground means more matchday revenue. It also equals better sponsorship deals and the ability to sell more merchandise, the higher up the league pyramid you go the more money you have access to. You will never get that whilst the team is continually chopped up and sold on and replaced with loans and journeymen. Swansea city seem to be doing very well out of their rental deal, the reason our deal doesn't work is the owners are blinded to the facts of what they have to do to achieve success, how can a car dealership succeed as a business if it only sells £500 snotters. It cant because their is not enough turnover in just selling £500 snotters, its the same for the club, you play shit football you get shit crowds and this means we get shit players and poor income. Would you by a Ferrari that was badged as a Rover, that's what their doing with our training shirts. The income will only improve with the product, you have to invest to make the product more saleable.
I think we need to really try and get the best rent deal going so staying at the Ricoh can work, with a partnership to maybe be in the offering further down the line.
Instead of trying to raise £20m to build a new stadium out in the sticks, why don't we try and raise the money to buy a half share or percentage from Wasps?
I get the 'must own, own stadium, 100% of the revenues' blah, blah blah, but the fact is, if we build a new stadium outside of Coventry we are going to probably lose thousands of fans anyway. Then you ask the question, 100% revenue of what? How much would that be on much reduced attendances etc?
We need to make this rental deal work and impress on Wasps that they need us there and they are going to struggle without us.
I don't want a new stadium, but we do need access to matchday and additional revenue to progress. We've been treading water before sinking whilst we've been at the Ricoh. A rental deal only is no good to us and is just more of the same.
I really don't know what the answer is. Basically nothing's changed short term, but now we're very likely fooked in the medium to long term future.
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I agree.
Don't know how everyone else feels, but I have always gone up and will continue to go up the Ricoh if we get relegated and then get relegated again and keep losing every week.
We move 8 or 9 miles away though and I will stop going, win lose or draw. I'm sure there are many, many City fans who think likewise.
I agree.
Don't know how everyone else feels, but I have always gone up and will continue to go up the Ricoh if we get relegated and then get relegated again and keep losing every week.
We move 8 or 9 miles away though and I will stop going, win lose or draw. I'm sure there are many, many City fans who think likewise.
I will still go no question now.
Maybe there are. Personally, whether it's one, five or ten miles away I will continue to support the team as I always have.
But Torch, you don't live in Coventry do you. Completely different kettle of fish.
I was born here and have lived and stayed here my whole life. The impact on City moving away will have a much bigger effect on me than it will on you I would imagine
If I lived in say Leamington or Warwick or Stratford it wouldn't bother me to anything like the same degree, even though of course I would still want the team in Coventry.
For City fans born here and who have always lived here the impact is going to be so much greater.
I suspect the next issue regarding a new stadium will be whether the council could reasonably refuse planning consent within the City boundary given that they have now effectively sold the Ricoh to a Rugby club and in doing so inadvertently left the cities football club without a home ground within the city?
The rights and wrongs of whether SISU owned companies would commission such a stadium to be built is debateable but I do believe very feasible. After all SISU will not be putting a penny into it. Various investments and loans could be structured and if the land around the proposed site can be built on commercially as well then they would have a far better situation going forward than simply renting the pitch at the Ricoh.
On the point Otis makes regarding distance to support your club? I don't believe anywhere in or around the boundary of Coventry would make a heap of difference and most will go. Some people come miles from the other side of Coventry as it is, to get to the Ricoh, some live closer than they did when they were at Highfield Rd. Fans travel hundreds of miles to away games. The speedway team never had a problem in all it's years at Brandon? I think this argument is a moot point.
if spending tens of millions building a new stadium was in anyway financially viable and coventry council refused planning permisson we should all kick up a stink, but since we all know and have always known that building a new stadium isn't in anyway financially viable it's really never going to be an issue. If they really did have the money to spend to build a new stadium they should have brought the Ricoh, they could have offered double what Wasps did and they would still be getting significantly more for significantly less money than building a new one and it would be ready right away not possibly maybe perhaps almost certainly not though in 4 years. The whole thing is bollocks, it's always been bollocks.
SISU will only build a stadium if someone else pays for it.
Let's hope PWKH doesn't return. We'd only have the likes of Tony and Italia falling over themselves, dicks in hand, seeing who can give him the most 'likes'.
How do you know Wasps are competent business people? It's just another hedge fund. .
Our ultimate goal is to return CCFC to the Premier League but we can only do this if we own our own stadium, allowing us to access 100% of our revenues. In the near future, we will be able to give our fans more details of our plans and tell you where the new stadium will be.
TOTAL BOLLOCKS!!!!
But Torch, you don't live in Coventry do you. Completely different kettle of fish.
I was born here and have lived and stayed here my whole life. The impact on City moving away will have a much bigger effect on me than it will on you I would imagine
If I lived in say Leamington or Warwick or Stratford it wouldn't bother me to anything like the same degree, even though of course I would still want the team in Coventry.
For City fans born here and who have always lived here the impact is going to be so much greater.
Our ultimate goal is to return CCFC to the Premier League but we can only do this if we own our own stadium, allowing us to access 100% of our revenues. In the near future, we will be able to give our fans more details of our plans and tell you where the new stadium will be.
TOTAL BOLLOCKS!!!!
SiSU had the cance to buy the 50% share years ago but blew it, thinking that they could get the whole of the Ricoh for a song.
It has all backfired badly for them but then, when the opportunity arises again, they put in an offer to buy a share with a promise to promote local community development - but, at the same time, the fuckwits say they will still be building a new stadium in 4 years elsewhere!
FFS, how can they wonder why the offer was rejected? It's beyond comprehension, don't you think?
in four years time we won't need a new stadium, there won't be a club left, we can't survive playing at the ricoh infront of 5000-8000 crowds, they couldn't afford to stay at sixfields for more than one season,no chance keeping the club going for another four years,
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