Celtic Approach Eddie Howe (1 Viewer)

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

Think it would be a fantastic appointment for them in all honesty.

Modern forward thinking young manager , ofcourse mistakes made at Bournemouth but its never clear who is completely in charge of transfers at some clubs , but he had a fantastic record there overall and achieved great things

Don't like celtic but quite like Eddie..

stay_up_skyblues · Apr 2, 2021

Yeah good appointment for both parties I think.

clint van damme · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
Think it would be a fantastic appointment for them in all honesty.

Modern forward thinking young manager , ofcourse mistakes made at Bournemouth but its never clear who is completely in charge of transfers at some clubs , but he had a fantastic record there overall and achieved great things

Don't like celtic but quite like Eddie..

Does he have the temperament to handle such a big job?
There's a lot of pressure involved in managing one of the big two in Scotland regardless of the standard of the football.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 2, 2021

clint van damme said:
Does he have the temperament to handle such a big job?
There's a lot of pressure involved in managing one of the big two in Scotland regardless of the standard of the football.

Any other country, the job he's done at Bournemouth would have had him candidate for Spurs type level etc. Here, the only way he can prove himself is by going the Brendan Rogers route. Danger for him is Rangers are stronger now, of course.

clint van damme · Apr 2, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Any other country, the job he's done at Bournemouth would have had him candidate for Spurs type level etc. Here, the only way he can prove himself is by going the Brendan Rogers route. Danger for him is Rangers are stronger now, of course.

They played some good football but he did spend a lot of cash

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 2, 2021

Must be alone in thinking it’ll end in tears, his only foray away from Bournemouth ended in failure and he is stepping into a job where the expectation is far higher. Rodgers going there from Liverpool not really comparable as Rangers were a non entity and the title guaranteed.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 2, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Must be alone in thinking it’ll end in tears, his only foray away from Bournemouth ended in failure and he is stepping into a job where the expectation is far higher. Rodgers going there from Liverpool not really comparable as Rangers were a non entity and the title guaranteed.

Not failure, he was average at Burnley. Dyche being a rollicking success doesn't make Howe a failure in that job.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 2, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Not failure, he was average at Burnley. Dyche being a rollicking success doesn't make Howe a failure in that job.

Well I don’t think Howe would view it as a success either and quickly went back south. Gerrard will be quite happy with this appointment I think

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

The thing about Eddie is he's only 43 , constantly learning and willing to learn , he's travelled all around the world to watch coaches at various clubs and their methods .

He's the type of manager most clubs should strive to appoint , if it doesn't work out then thats just that

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
The thing about Eddie is he's only 43 , constantly learning and willing to learn , he's travelled all around the world to watch coaches at various clubs and their methods .

He's the type of manager most clubs should strive to appoint , if it doesn't work out then thats just that

He's somebody who deserves a chance at a big club, wherever that is. We just seem obsessed in the UK in giving overseas managers a go first, regardless of what's coming through. How do you get experience at a big club, if nobody will give you the job?

Personally, I think he'd actually be suited to a job in the Netherlands or Belgium, or somewhere slightly more progressive. The danger of Celtic is that second is failure.

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

And sometimes clubs fail for various reasons beyond a managers control .

Man utd as an example ...all the money in the world thrown at the club but managers still not getting the players they desire because a man In a suit is buying the players upstairs .. a couple of great managers have failed since Fergie

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
And sometimes clubs fail for various reasons beyond a managers control .

Man utd as an example ...all the money in the world thrown at the club but managers still not getting the players they desire because a man In a suit is buying the players upstairs .. a couple of great managers have failed since Fergie

Again, depends what failure is, really. I'm not convinced any of them have really failed. Moyes dipped, but whoever took over after Ferguson would struggle to fill the void. Van Gaal and Mourinho have both been successful really (Mourinho's second place was not bad, by any means!) and Solksjaer is doing alright really, there's tangible improvement.

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Again, depends what failure is, really. I'm not convinced any of them have really failed. Moyes dipped, but whoever took over after Ferguson would struggle to fill the void. Van Gaal and Mourinho have both been successful really (Mourinho's second place was not bad, by any means!) and Solksjaer is doing alright really, there's tangible improvement.

I think man utd fans want more tbh ..coming upto 8 years without the title it's unheard of in modern times.

Arguibly the Worlds largest club not winning titles .

David O'Day · Apr 2, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Any other country, the job he's done at Bournemouth would have had him candidate for Spurs type level etc. Here, the only way he can prove himself is by going the Brendan Rogers route. Danger for him is Rangers are stronger now, of course.

But he will be at a club with a lot more resources than Rangers and he's in a worse position than Rodgers was so do a decent job and he wins the league and his stock may rise even higher than Rodgers had.

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 2, 2021

David O'Day said:
But he will be at a club with a lot more resources than Rangers and he's in a worse position than Rodgers was so do a decent job and he wins the league and his stock may rise even higher than Rodgers had.

Rangers will have the CL money for the first time mind.

Grendel · Apr 2, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Any other country, the job he's done at Bournemouth would have had him candidate for Spurs type level etc. Here, the only way he can prove himself is by going the Brendan Rogers route. Danger for him is Rangers are stronger now, of course.

I think he’s overhyped

Nick · Apr 2, 2021

Think people forget he had a Billionaire backing him.

Didn't have that at Burnley and wasn't very good.

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

How much did they spend to get from league 2 to the Premier league though , it was a great achievement

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
How much did they spend to get from league 2 to the Premier league though , it was a great achievement

Look at what they spent in the Championship promotion season, lost tens of millions but yes fantastic achievement. Like Wolves fighting against all the odds to lose £50 million in one punt

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

Looking at it he can't have spent much more than 20 million in transfer fees to go from league 2 to the Premier league ..which is a fantastic return

Nick · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
Looking at it he can't have spent much more than 20 million in transfer fees to go from league 2 to the Premier league ..which is a fantastic return

It's not all about Transfer fees though is it?

They were tens of millions down getting promoted, they paid Kenwyne Jones silly money and he never really played.

It wasn't like it was Barnsley or Luton or somebody, they threw shit loads of money at it.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
How much did they spend to get from league 2 to the Premier league though , it was a great achievement

He also rescued them from a 17 point deduction.

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

Nick said:
It's not all about Transfer fees though is it?

They were tens of millions down getting promoted, they paid Kenwyne Jones silly money and he never really played.

No but ultimately what they spent over the years leading upto promotion they recouped by being promoted to the Premier league ...which is worth 150 plus million regardless of if you stay up or go down ..

It was job well done

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
No but ultimately what they spent over the years leading upto promotion they recouped by being promoted to the Premier league ...which is worth 150 plus million regardless of if you stay up or go down ..

It was job well done

I can't stand that argument sorry, just defending teams gambling all the money they haven't got in case it comes off. It's what's fucked the finances in this league

Nick · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
No but ultimately what they spent over the years leading upto promotion they recouped by being promoted to the Premier league ...which is worth 150 plus million regardless of if you stay up or go down ..

It was job well done

What's that got to do with it?

The point was he had loads of money behind him to do it. It wasn't like he went in to somebody like us, Luton, Barnsley, Charlton and took them up.

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I can't stand that argument sorry, just defending teams gambling all the money they haven't got in case it comes off. It's what's fucked the finances in this league

Let's be honest , a club like Bournemouth would NEVER reach the Premier league without that particular gamble

Brighton Sky Blue · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
Let's be honest , a club like Bournemouth would NEVER reach the Premier league without that particular gamble

Blackpool did

Nick · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
Let's be honest , a club like Bournemouth would NEVER reach the Premier league without that particular gamble

Exactly, without the Billionaire behind them.

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

Nick said:
What's that got to do with it?

The point was he had loads of money behind him to do it. It wasn't like he went in to somebody like us, Luton, Barnsley, Charlton and took them up.

But you have to achieve promotion regardless of money spent , the money spent was still less than alot of clubs that go up to the Premier league ...he delivered

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

Nick said:
Exactly, without the Billionaire behind them.

Basically man City, Chelsea, Leicester etc etc etc

Still have to deliver

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Blackpool did

They did, its an anomaly though not the norm ..
You'd still say that the job howe done was better as he took them from minus 17 in league 2 to the Premier league

Nick · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
But you have to achieve promotion regardless of money spent , the money spent was still less than alot of clubs that go up to the Premier league ...he delivered

Didn't they have one of if not the biggest budget?

So yeah, he did it because he had a Billionaire behind him and when he didn't at Burnley he wasn't very good.

It's a fair bit of hype the same as the PE Teachers who were at Lincoln.

Deleted member 5849 · Apr 2, 2021

Evo1883 said:
Still have to deliver

Yeah if it was that easy, loads of managers would do it. Teams like Derby just don't do it, either, whichever manager they pick.

Evo1883 · Apr 2, 2021

Nick said:
Didn't they have one of if not the biggest budget?

So yeah, he did it because he had a Billionaire behind him and when he didn't at Burnley he wasn't very good.

He did just OK at Burnley.
Middle of the road stuff.

Nick , there's a common theme with 99% of successful clubs .
They all spend money .

But you still have to deliver

Ccfcisparks · Apr 2, 2021

Eddie Howe, massively overrated and if Gerrard stays can see Rangers winning the league again.

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