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wingy · Feb 19, 2015

lordsummerisle said:
Big fucking surprise!!

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...etro-video-posed-in-picture-with-nigel-farage

I could never take Farage seriously
What on earth Is he doing with a half In his hand

The Lurker · Feb 20, 2015

Wonder if this will make national and international news? http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/racist-vandals-target-willenhall-mums-8679582 now for me, this is far worse as it's on our own doorstep and little kids getting targeted. Shocking! Wonder if this will get a public outcry?

Sick Boy · Feb 20, 2015

rob9872 said:
If you learn to read, you'll note that I already was! He labels a generalisation of a large group of people as "thick" and "racist". I stand by my comment, but thanks fir your valid input as always grendel

Yeah. Alright mate.

lordsummerisle · Feb 20, 2015

The Lurker said:
Wonder if this will make national and international news? http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/racist-vandals-target-willenhall-mums-8679582 now for me, this is far worse as it's on our own doorstep and little kids getting targeted. Shocking! Wonder if this will get a public outcry?

It is indeed shocking, don't know about public outcry yet, but it's got it's own thread which you haven't managed to contribute to.

I imagine it's because of this that a group of football fans abused a French black person in Paris the other night.

Sick Boy · Feb 20, 2015

The Lurker said:
Wonder if this will make national and international news? http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/racist-vandals-target-willenhall-mums-8679582 now for me, this is far worse as it's on our own doorstep and little kids getting targeted. Shocking! Wonder if this will get a public outcry?

I wonder if it's far worse for you as the victim was white? Both of the stories are as abhorrent as the other, yet for some reason you seem to dismiss one as nothing. Strange that, isn't it?

Covstu · Feb 20, 2015

I think it is worrying the fact that someone must get hurt by some people to take note and condemn such appalling behaviour, these scenes have no place in football and in modern society. I think the irony is that they would be cheering Drogba as a 'god' when they won champions league.

As for the UKIP arguement, i dont think there is a direct linkage and you will find that a decent proportion of their following are fully educated but maybe misguided. The rest probably more sheep mentality but you could also say that about the other major parties...

The Lurker · Feb 20, 2015

Sick Boy said:
I wonder if it's far worse for you as the victim was white? Both of the stories are as abhorrent as the other, yet for some reason you seem to dismiss one as nothing. Strange that, isn't it?

What Chelsea fans do on a train in Paris is irrelevant to me. What happens 2 mins away from me is relevant. That's why. How hard to grasp? Trying to put words in minds are you? Plus has anyone been charged yet for the Paris stupidity? It seems the media made those 6 lads guilty without any real evidence. But hey football fans easy target for a witch hunt

Nick · Feb 20, 2015

Theres a thread for the other one - http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/54135-Woman-who-has-been-racially-abused-in-Willenhall

Sick Boy · Feb 20, 2015

The Lurker said:
What Chelsea fans do on a train in Paris is irrelevant to me. What happens 2 mins away from me is relevant. That's why. How hard to grasp? Trying to put words in minds are you? Plus has anyone been charged yet for the Paris stupidity? It seems the media made those 6 lads guilty without any real evidence. But hey football fans easy target for a witch hunt

haha, yet again making apologies for racism. Oh dear.

lordsummerisle · Feb 20, 2015

The Lurker said:
W It seems the media made those 6 lads guilty without any real evidence. But hey football fans easy target for a witch hunt

Yeah, think the video was made up by Stanley Kubrick, like he did with the moon landings.

The Lurker · Feb 20, 2015

Apart from a shove (which is bad but not front page worthy) the song was actually not sung by those 6 in the doorway. You can see that. But the media-press are assuming these 6 are guilty. I forgot innocent till proven guilty is defunct in 2015

lordsummerisle · Feb 20, 2015

The Lurker said:
Apart from a shove (which is bad but not front page worthy) the song was actually not sung by those 6 in the doorway. You can see that. But the media-press are assuming these 6 are guilty. I forgot innocent till proven guilty is defunct in 2015

Yeah the bloody MSM, with their warmist, leftist agendas just hide the TRUTH.

Look at that poor UKIP candidate mocked for asking a perfectly reasonable question about what happens when renewable energy runs out?

Yeah, what then hey?

In your face MSM and your "green", warmist agendas.

The Lurker · Feb 20, 2015

lordsummerisle said:
Yeah the bloody MSM, with their warmist, leftist agendas just hide the TRUTH.

Look at that poor UKIP candidate mocked for asking a perfectly reasonable question about what happens when renewable energy runs out?

Yeah, what then hey?

In your face MSM and your "green", warmist agendas.

Your missing my point and going off on your own agenda. I haven't mentioned any political parties or anything about the left. So why bring it up?

Covstu · Feb 20, 2015

The Lurker said:
Apart from a shove (which is bad but not front page worthy) the song was actually not sung by those 6 in the doorway. You can see that. But the media-press are assuming these 6 are guilty. I forgot innocent till proven guilty is defunct in 2015

The evidence is pretty conclusive!!

The Lurker · Feb 20, 2015

Covstu said:
The evidence is pretty conclusive!!

Ive watched the video back and I recommend you do the same. exactly what did happen. The camera pans to the left and you can hear the chant "were racist and thats the way we like it". Not one of the lads at the front of the door lip's are moving. There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest they sang or even pushed the poor bloke.

Covstu · Feb 21, 2015

You can see him push him out of the train, stop being naïve!

SkyblueBazza · Feb 22, 2015

Covstu said:
You can see him push him out of the train, stop being naïve!

From what I remember you cannot see which specific individual(s) are pushing him. Assumptions wouldn't be enough to convict anyone...except in a "kangaroo court" maybe.

PUSB

Macca · Feb 22, 2015

I think everyone accepts there is racism in every culture. You will however usually find white on black or asian racism given a far higher profile in the media. I think its considered more shocking, some kind of in built guilt complex because of the actions of our forefathers. Probably understandable.
To me it's a shitty incident and an embarrassment but is it worth the level of coverage it got? Questionable.

Otis · Feb 22, 2015

Macca said:
I think everyone accepts there is racism in every culture. You will however usually find white on black or asian racism given a far higher profile in the media. I think its considered more shocking, some kind of in built guilt complex because of the actions of our forefathers. Probably understandable.
To me it's a shitty incident and an embarrassment but is it worth the level of coverage it got? Questionable.

I think the answer is, newsworthy, most definitely, but not headline news.

It still was an ugly incident and makes you wonder how much racism is still prevalent in the football world in particular.

Anyway, if these fans are so proud to be racist, then they should be principled enough to make the decision not to attend Chelsea matches while the club continue to field black players in their matches.

It's the old 'I don't like black people, but my mate Leroy is alright' adage seemingly.

Macca · Feb 22, 2015

I think depending on what defines racism there may well be a lot more in society than what you see on the surface. I'd sooner live in a predominately white area than a predominately Asian area, why? I feel more at ease amongst people more similar to myself. Am I racist, maybe that comment means I am? However I have never judged a man I have met by his skin colour or religion so maybe I'm not. At least I'm honest I guess

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