Cian Harries and George Thomas (1 Viewer)

CJ_covblaze

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Both are 21 and are playing U23 football. In the current climate they can’t really be judged as a failure for another couple of years. How old was Jessie Lingard when he first had a proper run in the United First team? 24. 18 months later he’s probably in our starting line up at the World Cup
 

rob9872

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I hope it doesn't sound too bitter but I wasn't disappointed when either of them left or Stevens n for that matter. Im clearly wrong as Prem managers rate them but I didnt view any as good as Madders and if they'd stayed I doubt we'd habe seen so much of Bayliss or Shipley this season who I both rate higher. If we commanded a reasonable fee then they balanced the books and still helped contribute to last seasons success by aiding the budget.
 

rob9872

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you rate Shipley higher than George Thomas ?
Yes I do.
Imo a great work effort, terrific first touch and a year younger in development too. Will definitely improve again and get more physical, just not sure where his position will ultimately end up but I think possibly even in a more central role. I think massively underrated contribution to last season's success with a comparable goal record to GT from left side midfield and played less games too. I'll concede that GT did score the better of the two Wembley goals though.
 

Captain Dart

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Yes I do.
Imo a great work effort, terrific first touch and a year younger in development too. Will definitely improve again and get more physical, just not sure where his position will ultimately end up but I think possibly even in a more central role. I think massively underrated contribution to last season's success with a comparable goal record to GT from left side midfield and played less games too. I'll concede that GT did score the better of the two Wembley goals though.
I think you're spot on about the physicality, he is quite a strong lad already at 20.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Harries was right to leave, as I genuinely think Robins would’ve preferred an experienced L2 CB starting — similar to Stevenson’s diminished role.

George Thomas, however, has wasted a year of his career and momentum from his final half season with us is gone. At best, he goes to a Championship club on loan, at worst, another year in the U23s. His alternative was staying with us, probably scoring 15 goals minimum in L2 with a promotion and part of our back-to-back promotion attempt. I wouldn’t have been glamourous playing for one season in L2, but he needs as much first team football as possible and he got none last year. He’s missed out on a decent football education in L2 for a year of playing U23s football — which would’ve been lower than L1 and L2 standard (look at U23 teams in the Checkatrade). He’s got the consolation of a Wales call up, but that will be his first and last caps if he isn’t playing first team football.

If Bayliss, JP or Shipley want a blueprint of what not to do, then they should talk to Thomas.
 

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