City arkwardness tomorrow and demonstrators be on your guard. (1 Viewer)

EleanorRigby · Jan 6, 2012

So those who run Coventry City are playing the awkward card Saturday. Firstly only entrances 28/29 will be open for those coming in after 15 minutes, they say they can't spare any more staff to open more turnstiles, must be expecting a last minute rush of 20000 then. Also it appears that those who have pre-paid can only gain entrance by ticket which must be collected at the ticket office which is more or less where the demo will be, an excuse for a large number of orange cladded knuckle draggers to congregate in the area of the demo. how cute !. And apparently they intend to search people coming in late in case they have a banner stored in their nether regions.

What else do they have in store as they will be desperate to create a bad boy image to the protesters and those going be on your guard as i am certain they would love a few banning orders to be dished out.

ajsccfc · Jan 6, 2012

If the protest is as peaceful as the SOC site is trying to ensure, nobody should have a worry.

shmmeee · Jan 6, 2012

But the searches are practice for the Olympics and nothing to do with banners.

Must be true, SISU said it.

CJparker · Jan 6, 2012

Maybe...or maybe they just don't care.

thorn in my side · Jan 6, 2012

EleanorRigby said:
So those who run Coventry City are playing the awkward card Saturday. Firstly only entrances 28/29 will be open for those coming in after 15 minutes, they say they can't spare any more staff to open more turnstiles, must be expecting a last minute rush of 20000 then. Also it appears that those who have pre-paid can only gain entrance by ticket which must be collected at the ticket office which is more or less where the demo will be, an excuse for a large number of orange cladded knuckle draggers to congregate in the area of the demo. how cute !. And apparently they intend to search people coming in late in case they have a banner stored in their nether regions.

What else do they have in store as they will be desperate to create a bad boy image to the protesters and those going be on your guard as i am certain they would love a few banning orders to be dished out.

It is your right to demonstrate. It is my right to gain peaceful entry to the ground and watch the game in relative peace. I am sure there are health and safety issues and staffing considerations once the match has started, hence the desire to allow the demonstrators entry in an orderly manner - or would you prefer SISU to deny you entry for dramatic effect? - Why must you look for conspiracies all the time?

cov_russell · Jan 6, 2012

Well surely this means everyone should try to smuggle a banner into the match. This will give the stewards actual practice in searching people who have things on them. It's the only thing we can do to help.

EleanorRigby · Jan 6, 2012

Because anybody with half a brain so i assume that includea you will know 2 turnstiles and that will be one for the Telegraph stand and one for the the larger and busier Tesco stand is inapropriate, i am hoping and don't rule out the old bill ordering the opening of an exit gate to prevent congestion, they have done that before.

chiefdave · Jan 6, 2012

think it's more their usual incompetence than anything to do with the protest.

onesimongarner · Jan 6, 2012

I'm a Blackburn Rovers supporter who has a soft spot for Cov. My family visited friends in Coventry when i was a kid and we went to see City against Bristol City, Wallace, Ferguson and Hunt were in the side. I think you won 3-2 .
Anyway i just wanted to wish you good luck with your protest as i know how dodgy owners can spin lies to make genuine fans look like lunatics.

SISU-OUT

VENKYS-OUT. KEAN(SEM/KENTARO)-OUT

Nonleagueherewecome · Jan 6, 2012

thorn in my side said:
It is your right to demonstrate. It is my right to gain peaceful entry to the ground and watch the game in relative peace. I am sure there are health and safety issues and staffing considerations once the match has started, hence the desire to allow the demonstrators entry in an orderly manner - or would you prefer SISU to deny you entry for dramatic effect? - Why must you look for conspiracies all the time?

So why do something so counter productive as only having 2 turnstiles open? There could be 2,000 people trying to get through just two at 3:15-the busiest time of the day! Doesn't sound very safe to me. And as you'll be in your seat by 3pm, how on earth does it effect you in any way? Is it going to disturb your peace and quiet, having people getting to their seat when you've just got comfortable? You're just having a snipe because you don't approve of the protests. :jerkit:

6 Generations · Jan 6, 2012

Nonleagueherewecome said:
So why do something so counter productive as only having 2 turnstiles open? There could be 2,000 people trying to get through just two at 3:15-the busiest time of the day! Doesn't sound very safe to me. And as you'll be in your seat by 3pm, how on earth does it effect you in any way? Is it going to disturb your peace and quiet, having people getting to their seat when you've just got comfortable? You're just having a snipe because you don't approve of the protests. :jerkit:

No sir, he is having a snipe because he does not support the same team as you and i!!

you will find him at another ground this weekend sitting next to Eleanor Rigby.

6 Generations · Jan 6, 2012

EleanorRigby said:
Because anybody with half a brain so i assume that includea you will know 2 turnstiles and that will be one for the Telegraph stand and one for the the larger and busier Tesco stand is inapropriate, i am hoping and don't rule out the old bill ordering the opening of an exit gate to prevent congestion, they have done that before.

One of your 1st posts relayed the joyous news that CCFC were on the brink of a take over.

A virtual gaggle of billionaires had danced in the corridors of The Ricoh adorned in Sky Blue suits.

News was imminent.

Any more information yet?

thorn in my side · Jan 6, 2012

Nonleagueherewecome said:
So why do something so counter productive as only having 2 turnstiles open? There could be 2,000 people trying to get through just two at 3:15-the busiest time of the day! Doesn't sound very safe to me. And as you'll be in your seat by 3pm, how on earth does it effect you in any way? Is it going to disturb your peace and quiet, having people getting to their seat when you've just got comfortable? You're just having a snipe because you don't approve of the protests. :jerkit:

I am glad you feel better about yourself. By all means disagree but keep the profanities to yourself. You know nothing of me yet you presume to insult me. No wonder the fan base is split if your attitude is endemic amongst those who seek to impose their opinions upon others without thought or respect for differing views.

6 Generations · Jan 6, 2012

thorn in my side said:
I am glad you feel better about yourself. By all means disagree but keep the profanities to yourself. You know nothing of me yet you presume to insult me. No wonder the fan base is split if your attitude is endemic amongst those who seek to impose their opinions upon others without thought or respect for differing views.

That was quick TIMS

Nonleagueherewecome · Jan 6, 2012

What profanities? You state your view, I either;

a) Respond saying how I disagree, or
b) Take the WUM bait.

Either way, you need to grow a thicker skin or stay away from internet forums! It really is no place for a lady like you, Miss Whitehouse :wave:

thorn in my side · Jan 6, 2012

Nonleagueherewecome said:
What profanities? You state your view, I either;

a) Respond saying how I disagree, or
b) Take the WUM bait.

Either way, you need to grow a thicker skin or stay away from internet forums! It really is no place for a lady like you, Miss Whitehouse :wave:

I think your apology is in the spirit of the Suarez apology - "I am sorry you feel I offended you. I am sorry you feel that way. I am sorry you feel the need of an apology because where I come from calling suggesting someone is a wanker cos they hold a different view is the norm"

Oh - and by the way, I have anger management issues...(a) is perfectly fine. Hold a different view and feel free to express it (b) WUM is fine if that is what turns you on - just avoid the profanities - that way you and I can continue to disagree til the cows come home...

As for thicker skin and all that - best you and I do not go there...

So let's just move on, and back to the debate...I think you are assuming a hidden agenda in SISU's decision to "control" access to the ground after kick-off - for example, it may be on the advice of the police or security who want to keep an eye on the demonstrations to ensure they remain peaceful both outside and inside. There may be any one of a number of good and cogent reasons for the decision - yet you instantly assume the conspiracy theory. I do not share that view - there it is.

Nonleagueherewecome · Jan 6, 2012

Well at least tell me what my profanity was! I'm having real difficulty spotting it.

You're the paranoid one, pal-I didn't post conspiracy theories, I just said it was darn inconsiderate and stupid.

My WUM comment was a reference to others comments on here, and I didn't really agree with it. Now I think I do, actually: you seem to go out of your way to hunt for anti-SISU issues, even when they aren't there, in order to argue your agenda.

skyblu3sk · Jan 6, 2012

Guys lets not have another thread off on a tangent please.

georgehudson · Jan 7, 2012

city arkwardness tomorrow and demonstrators be on your guard

good post ER, indeed there are dubious & dark forces about,

PUSB

EleanorRigby · Jan 7, 2012

6 Generations said:
One of your 1st posts relayed the joyous news that CCFC were on the brink of a take over.

A virtual gaggle of billionaires had danced in the corridors of The Ricoh adorned in Sky Blue suits.

News was imminent.

Any more information yet?

It was and I believe they are still there, but it seems sisu won't comply yet. Had they done so 3 or 4 months ago we would perhaps be a lot higher up the table, would they be better than sisu ? Don't know, but could it be any worse ? under the circumstances think i would take the chance.

thorn in my side · Jan 7, 2012

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Well at least tell me what my profanity was! I'm having real difficulty spotting it.

You're the paranoid one, pal-I didn't post conspiracy theories, I just said it was darn inconsiderate and stupid.

My WUM comment was a reference to others comments on here, and I didn't really agree with it. Now I think I do, actually: you seem to go out of your way to hunt for anti-SISU issues, even when they aren't there, in order to argue your agenda.

The clue is in your smiley = :jerkit:

Maybe I am paranoid - I will up my medication.

Surprisingly I have no agenda. I am neutral - I want change (eventually) but not at any cost. My loathing of SISU is not such that I blindly look to Hoffman as a saviour. If details of the Hoffman bid (if it exists at all) eventually appear then I shall evaluate the merits of such bid against the continuation of SISU, and then form an opinion. I am thus not hunting for anti-SISU issues, I just do not believe in SISU bashing for the sake of it - nor would I encourage Hoffman bashing for the sake of it were his investor at the helm. Simples !

thorn in my side · Jan 7, 2012

EleanorRigby said:
It was and I believe they are still there, but it seems sisu won't comply yet. Had they done so 3 or 4 months ago we would perhaps be a lot higher up the table, would they be better than sisu ? Don't know, but could it be any worse ? under the circumstances think i would take the chance.

The Birmingham City fans thought that when they eventually got rid of Sullivan / Gold / Brady, swapping them the the new multi-millionaire saviour Carsen Yeung. It could indeed be worse and I am not prepared to take a chance without knowing who the investor(s) are, the nature and extent of the investment, the key personnel, and the business strategy moving forward.

EleanorRigby · Jan 7, 2012

thorn in my side said:
The Birmingham City fans thought that when they eventually got rid of Sullivan / Gold / Brady, swapping them the the new multi-millionaire saviour Carsen Yeung. It could indeed be worse and I am not prepared to take a chance without knowing who the investor(s) are, the nature and extent of the investment, the key personnel, and the business strategy moving forward.

Of course there are dodgepots, sisu IMO being one. We can only hope these people being introduced by City nutcases such as Hoffman and Keys hae been rigourlously vetted. As Hoffman is about as high as you can get in the finance world and has considerable contacts within our Government i'll have to trust him, who else is there ? If nothing happens we may well not exist as we know it by May.

I think there is a difference with the Birmingham situation, Gold and Sullivan were selling to buy another club who they support and wanted out, Hoffman and co are fans wanting something better for their club.

torchomatic · Jan 7, 2012

I still think we should be careful what we wish for. Yes, Hoffman is a City fan and if the money for any proposed takeover was his then I would be a lot happier. However, basically he's convinced investors to (hopefully) pump money into the Club he supports.

@richh87 · Jan 7, 2012

torchomatic said:
I still think we should be careful what we wish for. Yes, Hoffman is a City fan and if the money for any proposed takeover was his then I would be a lot happier. However, basically he's convinced investors to (hopefully) pump money into the Club he supports.

Thing is we, as fans, can't do due diligence on potential owners - all we can do is hope they are better.

If I could choose one man to find investors and do all the due diligence for me then that man would surely be Hoffman.

- He has the expertise required
- He has incredibly wealthy connections and is respected
- He LOVES this football club

EleanorRigby · Jan 7, 2012

torchomatic said:
I still think we should be careful what we wish for. Yes, Hoffman is a City fan and if the money for any proposed takeover was his then I would be a lot happier. However, basically he's convinced investors to (hopefully) pump money into the Club he supports.[/QUOTE.

I'll chance Mf Hoffman has a little bit of a brain when it comes to money.

EleanorRigby · Jan 7, 2012

@richh87 said:
Thing is we, as fans, can't do due diligence on potential owners - all we can do is hope they are better.

If I could choose one man to find investors and do all the due diligence for me then that man would surely be Hoffman.

- He has the expertise required
- He has incredibly wealthy connections and is respected
- He LOVES this football club

Well said and you omitted including Government connections, why else did MP Damien Collins stand up in the House and mention little Coventry City's plight. As a result the whole board have jumped ship.

torchomatic · Jan 7, 2012

No, we can't do DD on potential owners and that's a shame.

However, just because he LOVES the club doesn't mean he will be able to make it a success. I know he was on the board but he didn't RUN the club which he will be doing, so it that respect he is still a novice.

I agree he has expertise, but not in running a football club.

I just hope our faith in him isn't misplaced because as with the SISU takeover it seems we have a choice of one.

@richh87 said:
Thing is we, as fans, can't do due diligence on potential owners - all we can do is hope they are better.

If I could choose one man to find investors and do all the due diligence for me then that man would surely be Hoffman.

- He has the expertise required
- He has incredibly wealthy connections and is respected
- He LOVES this football club

@richh87 · Jan 7, 2012

torchomatic said:
No, we can't do DD on potential owners and that's a shame.

However, just because he LOVES the club doesn't mean he will be able to make it a success. I know he was on the board but he didn't RUN the club which he will be doing, so it that respect he is still a novice.

I agree he has expertise, but not in running a football club.

I just hope our faith in him isn't misplaced because as with the SISU takeover it seems we have a choice of one.

I see what you're saying - but no matter who took us over we'd have the same nervous thoughts. If we had 50 prospective owners to choose from we'd still be safest trusting in a City fan with his connections.

torchomatic · Jan 7, 2012

True enough, Rich. Like everyone else I desperately want Hoffman to be our saviour, but I was also pleased when SISU came in and look how that turned out.

valiant15 · Jan 7, 2012

So you want Hoffman in and sisu out but your not prepared to get off your arse and do anything about it?

TheParsonsHose · Jan 7, 2012

valiant15 said:
So you want Hoffman in and sisu out but your not prepared to get off your arse and do anything about it?

I dont think we are 100% hoff wants in, its just the only hope we have at the moment. A local bloke with contacts who could have already closed the door on any deal.

torchomatic · Jan 7, 2012

Well, that's the price I pay for being a spineless scab.

valiant15 said:
So you want Hoffman in and sisu out but your not prepared to get off your arse and do anything about it?

bamalamafizzfazz · Jan 7, 2012

Good luck tomorrow guys. Sorry I can't be there. Keep us updated on here of how it goes. Hope it remains peaceful and thank-you for fighting for our beloved club.

Special thanks to those not going to the game either. SAVE OUR CITY and PUSB.

TheParsonsHose · Jan 7, 2012

bamalamafizzfazz said:
Good luck tomorrow guys. Sorry I can't be there. Keep us updated on here of how it goes. Hope it remains peaceful and thank-you for fighting for our beloved club.

Special thanks to those not going to the game either. SAVE OUR CITY and PUSB.

You mean today right or is something else happening?

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