City fans negative mindset (1 Viewer)

Fergusons_Beard · Jul 27, 2018

Another pre-season nearly finished and after our first promotion for a generation you’d think all of our fans would be itching for the new season to start, beaming with the positivity of last season.

Not quite-what is it with City fans and their negative mindset?

Jumping on any news and spinning it into a suicide note.

The manager’s rubbish, the new signings are rubbish and we have a really poor team not fit to grace League One.

Most of them blinded by a SISU hating hood.

Has it really got that bad that now City supporters delight in watching us fail?

For some it is easier to criticise than celebrate, to carp than cheer, to shout profanities than shout encouragement.

Even in City’s darkest hours (and there has been many) we are safe in the knowledge that a brilliant moment is not too far away.

So please, change your mindset, support your team, encourage our new signings and for god’s sake smile and look forward to the best time of the season-before we have kicked a ball!

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ajsccfc · Jul 27, 2018

There are some posts here where there's almost a sense of glee at the idea of us not doing well, as if they only poke their noses in to predict doom and then keep their fingers crossed they then can later say 'told you so'. It's really offputting.

Esoterica · Jul 27, 2018

I dread to think what the atmosphere will be like if we haven't paid half a mill for a striker or scored by HT in the Scunny game.

ccfcricoh · Jul 27, 2018

Completely agree - and it's getting boring to be honest!

Just can't wait until we can actually talk about football games and results again and people can stop whinging about how there's simply no chance we're going to score any goals, and Burge is going to let about 3 goals a game in!

luwalla · Jul 27, 2018

Think the majority are cautiously optimistic to be honest... there will always be a few nay-sayers, thats same in every walk of life

yeah we could do with that new striker through the door & no one likes losing matches, even if they are 'meaningless pre-seaons' , but I honestly think / hope most cant wait for the new season

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 27, 2018

Last 15 years its been realistic but it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy

Robccfc87 · Jul 27, 2018

I'm not

shmmeee · Jul 27, 2018

What on earth are you on about?

The worst has been a few people saying they're worried we haven't replaced McNulty and you've gone off on a massive rant about Sisu and all sorts.

Get a grip.

Esoterica · Jul 27, 2018

Sky Blue Pete said:
Last 15 years its been realistic but it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy

Goalposts will shift for those folk too. Was previously 'well we're city fans, it's been shit for 50 years, what do you expect?' but now we've had a promotion and 2 wembley trips in 12 months it'll be 'yeah but it was a tinpot trophy and L2, we shouldn't have been there in the first place' or 'I started to believe again and bought my first ST for X years but SISU just trousered all the Maddison and McNulty money, wish i could get my money back'. People underestimate how much difference it makes when the fans get behind the team.

Nick · Jul 27, 2018

shmmeee said:
What on earth are you on about?

The worst has been a few people saying they're worried we haven't replaced McNulty and you've gone off on a massive rant about Sisu and all sorts.

Get a grip.

Do you only have selective reading? :emoji_nerd:

Most of it is the "usuals" trying to whip up some anger. Most sane people are like you say just a bit worried about where goals will come from rather than getting the bedsheets out.

Gorm from the Trust board and his son, jimmy hill way and some other lad offering a Q and A trying to whip it up a bit with iPhone notes. The usual nonsense.

It is as if a shouty minority perversely enjoy us not doing very well.

My favourite bit was the lad saying SISU have taken all the money from all the transfers, when somebody mentioned the accounts he said it's impossible to tell as the accounts aren't available to the public. When pointed out they were he said "Well you are entitled to your opinion and I will have mine" and "not everyone agrees with you" :emoji_weary:

AFCCOVENTRY · Jul 27, 2018

Robins has had a very good summer recruitment wise. 9 players to bring competition in each position nearly. I think it's because we've lost McNulty and not replaced him yet where most of the frustration is coming from.

Liquid Gold · Jul 27, 2018

Yep, I think some people are relentlessly negative as a way of excusing themselves for not supporting the team. It's not too bad on here to be honest but the Facebook forum is full of the idiots.

Nick · Jul 27, 2018

Liquid Gold said:
Yep, I think some people are relentlessly negative as a way of excusing themselves for not supporting the team. It's not too bad on here to be honest but the Facebook forum is full of the idiots.

Yep, some sort of justification not to be arsed and as said they will move the goalposts.

stevefloyd · Jul 27, 2018

I trust Robins in what players have been brought in so far, my only 'gripe' for want of a better word is the lack of goals and now we have potentially got even less goals but I am sure Mr Robins and co still have a trick or 2 left up their sleeves...well hopefully....KEEP THE FAITH

Terry_dactyl · Jul 27, 2018

I don’t think city fans are unique in voicing ‘half glass empty’ opinions. For most football fans their experiences of being a supporter are long periods of frustration and disappointment, interspersed with moments of ecstasy.
I really don’t think we’re even unique in being a bit gloomy about our team’s chances...I’m afraid we’re not even special for this!

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Jul 27, 2018

It’s basic economics that people can’t seem to grasp

We’ve made money on Maddison and McNulty and because they haven’t seen anything by way of transfer fees it’s automatically - SISU have pocketed the money.

It’s becoming boring now... the club has running costs. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, these fans want someone to come in, throw money at it and leave without getting it back if it fails.

The Maddison money has probably covered the losses this season and allowed us to keep Bayliss

DazzleTommyDazzle · Jul 27, 2018

Personally, after promotion and the early signings (particularly Brown and Ogogo) I was very optimistic.
Having lost McNulty and with Jones not available as yet, I'm a bit concerned about where the goals will come from, but that's the gloss being taken off the optimism, rather than a dive into pessimism!

rob9872 · Jul 27, 2018

The irony of a negative thread about negative threads ….

Mr Panda · Jul 27, 2018

Most of the negative stuff I see is from the Facebook forum where let's be fair, a good 95% of them haven't got a braincell between them.

Why am I there? Free streams.

I'm positive we have a good enough team building.

Even if the new signing to replace McNulty doesn't score as much goals as him, but can move like him then I think this team is good enough with the spaces that will be made. We just need someone to pull a team sideways like McNulty did.

JulianDarbyFTW · Jul 27, 2018

The pessimism is understandable in the context of our last relegation, when we hadn't got a goalscorer. Until we get one (assuming he isn't already in the building) then people will continue to worry. The rest of the team looks competitive, though. It's just that final piece of the jigsaw we need.

ceetee · Jul 27, 2018

I'm afraid that there are people, whose hatred for SISU is greater than their love of CCFC, who do not want any success while under SISU's ownership

Liquid Gold · Jul 27, 2018

ceetee said:
I'm afraid that there are people, whose hatred for SISU is greater than their love of CCFC, who do not want any success while under SISU's ownership

This. I understand hatred of sisu obviously but how you let that cloud your love of ccfc is beyond me.

ThievingScally · Jul 27, 2018

Welcome to the internet.

Thankfully - when I leave the house and go to the game (not that often in all honesty) - the real world is more sensible and generally more pragmatic.

As soon as Kelly & Doyle walk out for the first game - we should be ok again.

PUSB

TSx

Ashdown · Jul 27, 2018

Quite honestly, I haven't seen any of the new players in action yet, You have to trust a manager who got it right in the end last term, it's all to play for and over a long period of time. Be a shame if we flunk the first 15 games or so but even then there is time to improve............on the contrary it wouldn't be ideal to get too excited if we are top two because equally it could still go pear shaped . I just hope the football is better quality than League 2 and teams actually come to the Ricoh looking for a win instead of last years draw seekers.

chiefdave · Jul 27, 2018

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
It’s basic economics that people can’t seem to grasp

We’ve made money on Maddison and McNulty and because they haven’t seen anything by way of transfer fees it’s automatically - SISU have pocketed the money.

It’s becoming boring now... the club has running costs. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, these fans want someone to come in, throw money at it and leave without getting it back if it fails.

The Maddison money has probably covered the losses this season and allowed us to keep Bayliss

Its one thing to not understand it but a lot of them won't listen when its explained in very simple terms where the money is going.

They're convinced they know something that all the experts who have been over the accounts time and time again have missed.

Nick · Jul 27, 2018

chiefdave said:
Its one thing to not understand it but a lot of them won't listen when its explained in very simple terms where the money is going.

They're convinced they know something that all the experts who have been over the accounts time and time again have missed.

They have no interest in even trying to understand them or look at the breakdowns of them people have done.

Just hear somebody say something, repeat it, get some likes.

That one who said that accounts aren't available to the public was a great example, when explained he was wrong it was straight onto "well its my opinion, not everybody agrees with you"

Don't know if it's the social media generation who think they can just make things up and then claim it as opinion.

chiefdave · Jul 27, 2018

People are being negative about the club not meeting unrealistic expectations they've set. I'd love back to back promotions but realistically our record in L1 is 15th, 18th, 17th, 8th and 23rd. We then managed a 6th place in L2 and promotion via the play offs. Hardly screams promotion favourites.

ajsccfc · Jul 27, 2018

Part of my problem this season in particular is knowing what kind of expectation to even consider, I've never seen us promoted before in my life.

Nick · Jul 27, 2018

chiefdave said:
People are being negative about the club not meeting unrealistic expectations they've set. I'd love back to back promotions but realistically our record in L1 is 15th, 18th, 17th, 8th and 23rd. We then managed a 6th place in L2 and promotion via the play offs. Hardly screams promotion favourites.

Think it's when people get all worked up based on nothing.

It's like when we played Stoke, the fans were already planning the special offer on tickets even though the club hadn't ever said there would be one. Then when there wasn't one there was uproar.

Covstu · Jul 27, 2018

ceetee said:
I'm afraid that there are people, whose hatred for SISU is greater than their love of CCFC, who do not want any success while under SISU's ownership

yep this covers it for me, due to blind hatred of an entity that they probably don't even understand that they gloat when we lose but jump on bandwagons to Wembley. Its disappointing but we are not unique in this apart from some areas of the world i.e. Newcastle etc. There is also an unrealistic element to this that people still think we should be signing £10M players.

For me the signings have been quick and decisive which is extremely unusual for us and even better they are not loan signings! (apart from the Chelsea lad) The striker replacement is a concern but I still think Ponti can take that place by the end of the season and make it his own if he applies himself. We have trusted MR so far and we need to continue to do so even if it isn't going swimmingly.

Covstu · Jul 27, 2018

ajsccfc said:
Part of my problem this season in particular is knowing what kind of expectation to even consider, I've never seen us promoted before in my life.

yep couldn't call it, promoted again or potentially relegated ?! who knows!!
Gut feel is we are going to do well up to Christmas and fizzle out to about 10th/11th but I am basing that on our usual way!

ajsccfc · Jul 27, 2018

The early signings this season and last have been a big difference from what's gone before. In previous years we'd sign some older players on on-year deals and then later in the window a number of loanees that would make a fairly large part of the first team, whereas getting targets in early, renewing contracts and only getting a handful of loanees makes it feel like we've got more of a structure about us. Losing McNulty's a blow but Robins and team won't need telling, but I'm not in panic mode as we lost a main attacking threat last year in Jones and then McNulty came to the fore. All of this gives me faith in what we're doing rather than fear.

Deleted member 5612 · Jul 27, 2018

I am confident that the worst we'll finish is mid table. Robins has us too well marshalled and playing too decent football for us to be anywhere near the bottom. Biamou will score a few and be able to feed Ponticelli or Clarke-Harris for some goals. Bring on the season and PLAY UP SKY BLUES

tisza · Jul 27, 2018

i think we'll be all right.
McNulty is a miss not just for his goals but we are capable of playing some good football.
should be reasonably tight at the back and have forward players that can create.

Esoterica · Jul 27, 2018

chiefdave said:
People are being negative about the club not meeting unrealistic expectations they've set. I'd love back to back promotions but realistically our record in L1 is 15th, 18th, 17th, 8th and 23rd. We then managed a 6th place in L2 and promotion via the play offs. Hardly screams promotion favourites.

To be fair, the club have brought it on themselves a little bit with the expectations. They were quite happy to cash in on the feel good factor with their #risetogether and suggestions of back to back promotions (when the early bird STs were on offer)
Robins: “We need to keep moving forward together. We don’t want to sit in League One, we want to be pushing for promotion again to the Championship."
Fisher: 'We are going to give it a go as we dont want to be down in League One'

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