Will you please stop trying to use Mcdonald to justify your errant arguments, Wyken. People would take the product of your troubled mind much more seriously if you didn't keep pointing the finger at a player who wasn't fit when he arrived and has played 5 games
He's started 8 games and played 11 in total.
Well judging on him so far. He’s started 8 games and scored 1 goal. Yes only a short period of time but he’s had plenty of chances to score and missed.
I want McDonald to be a success and i want every player and manager to be a success at this club but you have to realise that the manager and the players are not good enough and plus SISU are the powers that be... it’s going to be a recipe for disaster.
If you were a boxing coach, would you throw the towel in if your corner lost the first round, giving it up as a 'bad job'?
Let me keep things nice and simple for you then, as I suspect you like things that way Wyken. Five games or eight - whatever. Anyway....
Q: Is less than 10 games sufficient to rule a man's career a success or not?
Simple yes or no please
SISU are mugs and i hate them for not investing more but Every club could say the same about players they could have got?
Let’s look at the current crop and many are what Thorn recommended and bought in.
For every good player he spotted, he spotted some tripe aswell.
Bell League 1 standard
Baker League 1 standard
McDonald League 1 standard
Wood League 1 standard and Roy O’D (Sunday League standard)
You get league 1 players you end up playing league 1 football.
Wood I don't agree with. I think he's the best defender at the club. McDonald scored 25 in the lower leagues, so why complain if that's where we are going to end up. Plus, he's been injured too much and not been given a decent chance.
Baker and Bell are also alright on their day, though admittedly "their day" doesn't happen too often.
SISU are mugs and i hate them for not investing more but Every club could say the same about players they could have got?
Let’s look at the current crop and many are what Thorn recommended and bought in.
For every good player he spotted, he spotted some tripe aswell.
Bell League 1 standard
Baker League 1 standard
McDonald League 1 standard
Wood League 1 standard and Roy O’D (Sunday League standard)
You get league 1 players you end up playing league 1 football.
Torch if you don't think these players are that bad, why are we bottom then?
What is it with you and your shit ‘if you were a..... load of bollocks. We’re talking football yet you keep going off on something else.
Back to football.
I f i was a manager of a team bottom of the league i would be thinking, right obviously at the moment, something not right. I’ll try something new and training all week and try it in a few games. I’ll start getting my players to pass the ball forward and get my forward to make more movement and get more support from my midfield.
I’d ditch the ineffective diamond and bring in 3-5-2 (Wing backs) most of our goals come from the full backs.
Team i’d use if fit would be as follows
Murphy
HH – CB
Craine - CB
Keogh – CB
Christie (RWB)
Hussey (LWB)
Deegan (CM)
Clingan (CM)
Baker (Freerole behind front 2)
Mcdonald
Platt
Each to their own opinions but in my eyes that would cause teams more problems than our current formation and has plenty of experience which is needed at this current time.
I never said they were the best in the division. I said that Wood was the best defender at the club. Bell/Baker play well went they want to, which I said wasn't enough and I said that McDonald scored plenty in the lower leagues. Those are the facts as I see them.
As for McDonald would have stayed at Norwich if he was good enough. Well, you could say that about any player, couldn't you? Why didn't Juke stay at Everton if he was that good, for example?
You don't like McDonald and you won't give him a chance. Good for you. Not everyone feels the same.
Actually quite like that formation. Would take some of the defensive duty off Hussey & Christie
He's started 8 games and played 11 in total.
Well judging on him so far. He’s started 8 games and scored 1 goal. Yes only a short period of time but he’s had plenty of chances to score and missed.
I want McDonald to be a success and i want every player and manager to be a success at this club but you have to realise that the manager and the players are not good enough and plus SISU are the powers that be... it’s going to be a recipe for disaster.
I didn't say i don't like McDonald but so far he has not delivered for whatever reason.
How about an injury that has limited his appearances to 8 games in five months.
Best was with a Championship club who didn't think he was good enough for their team. Doing alright now, isn't he? Your one-size-fits-all argument doesn't wash really, does it?
Nice swerve on my question spin doctor...
Do you think these players are good enough to keep us up?
Yes or no?
I personally do.
Yes, they are. *In my opinion.
*That is my opinion, just mine, not yours or anyone else's, just mine. Just wanted to be clear.
So in your opinion why are we bottom Torch?
That’s why I don’t get their argument.
On one hand they say these players are not that bad then next they say well Thorn has no tools to work.
Bit like Pot calling the kettle black.
A mixture of reasons. Lack of investment, bad luck, individual mistakes by players, mistakes by the manager, sitting back and not killing teams off. etc
I know your little obsession is AT and that is the whole point of your argument, and I am not stupid enough to say he has been blameless, but that is just one small part of the bigger picture.
No, the players aren't that bad. But they need help which is why Thorn is desperate to bolster the squad and give us options. Why can't you "get" that? You have a very black and white view of everything, life isn't like that.
Are we really that bad of team no... but the league table reckons so and thats what matters.
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