TheDube
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Just another way for them to pump up his fee
Just another way for them to pump up his fee
I’m sure I read that Jackett said we have bid 250k with add ons but that was below there valuation. They can only mess about so much, he only has a year left and is not in Kenny jacketts plans. So they need to move on and replace for themselves, if they keep pushing value to high they end up with one unhappy player who is not fancied by the manager.My gut feeling is our limit is something in the region of 150K up front with add ons.
Given the owners approach to finance I think its highly unlikely we'd sign a striker that will go for around £400K.
At least part instead of wages however, so not as simple as that.Didn't JCH have a loan fee?
I'm not attempting to start a meltdown here, but let's just get this right:
We've lost our best player and top goalscorer (understandable given we are in League 1), and are attempting to sign a young lad from Portsmouth who is inexperienced for half a million (or more) as his direct replacement.
We need strikers obviously, but is it me or does this all feel a little silly? Particularly the bit about blowing our transfer kitty all on one unproven player.
CCFC fan moans about spending money... I know...
I'm not attempting to start a meltdown here, but let's just get this right:
We've lost our best player and top goalscorer (understandable given we are in League 1), and are attempting to sign a young lad from Portsmouth who is inexperienced for half a million (or more) as his direct replacement.
We need strikers obviously, but is it me or does this all feel a little silly? Particularly the bit about blowing our transfer kitty all on one unproven player.
CCFC fan moans about spending money... I know...
Was just going to post the same (ditto Nick's post) Unnamed clubs ...my arse!Just another way for them to pump up his fee
Well we've had a lot of money coming in this summer. Robins says he doesn't get the Maddison money, but he DID say that he gets all of the McNulty money. It's only fair that he does as it was not at all expected and is in a sense a bit of a "bonus" as far as cash coming in is concerned-indeed it sounds like he decided it was better to sell and not be stuck with an unhappy player, on the condition that he had the money to reinvest. So a 500k and a 700k forward signing would be my expectation, based on Robins explicitly saying that he had the money from McNulty.
Well we've had a lot of money coming in this summer. Robins says he doesn't get the Maddison money, but he DID say that he gets all of the McNulty money. It's only fair that he does as it was not at all expected and is in a sense a bit of a "bonus" as far as cash coming in is concerned-indeed it sounds like he decided it was better to sell and not be stuck with an unhappy player, on the condition that he had the money to reinvest. So a 500k and a 700k forward signing would be my expectation, based on Robins explicitly saying that he had the money from McNulty.
I’d argue we might have a big budget this yearSo that would be a net cost to the club. Hence, if trying to balance the books, unlikely to fork out that much in transfer fees.
And the players wages have gone up/new contracts, so can't see much extra £££s in, other than crowds being up (partly due to larger away followings)I’d argue we might have a big budget this year
I'm not attempting to start a meltdown here, but let's just get this right:
We've lost our best player and top goalscorer (understandable given we are in League 1), and are attempting to sign a young lad from Portsmouth who is inexperienced for half a million (or more) as his direct replacement.
We need strikers obviously, but is it me or does this all feel a little silly? Particularly the bit about blowing our transfer kitty all on one unproven player.
CCFC fan moans about spending money... I know...
He’s hardly ‘unproven’, he’s made over 100 appearances at the age of 21. Albeit, largely coming off the bench. Yet, still has 25 goals in total, which is a decent haul given he’s been largely used as a sub. Given that Pitman scored 24 goals last season, you can hardly blame them for not starting Chaplin. From what I’ve read, Doyle rates him v highly and was impressed with him at his time in Portsmouth.
We also need to see who the other striker Robins planned to bring in (regardless of what McNulty ended up doing).
Well we've had a lot of money coming in this summer. Robins says he doesn't get the Maddison money, but he DID say that he gets all of the McNulty money. It's only fair that he does as it was not at all expected and is in a sense a bit of a "bonus" as far as cash coming in is concerned-indeed it sounds like he decided it was better to sell and not be stuck with an unhappy player, on the condition that he had the money to reinvest. So a 500k and a 700k forward signing would be my expectation, based on Robins explicitly saying that he had the money from McNulty.
It's a gamble but, given the sums involved, we can only assume Robins thinks he can step up. Let's face it, we could have got two James Collins for that after all!My point was, if we are throwing half a million at him. It feels like a very bold decision given his goal tally so far. That's not his fault but we are gambling on him coming good. It wouldn't be a bad signing at all, but do you think if we sign him for that much money we would have anything left to bring in another striker?
We have lost McNulty who is a massive loss. To gamble that cash away on one player who is a lot more unproven in comparison could be a problem no?
McNultys goal record was hardly breathtaking before he joined tbfIf McNulty's value is £1.2m, then Chaplin cannot be worth more than a quarter of that fee given experience, goal record etc can he?!
I would be concerned if we paid more than £300k for him. He can't get in Pompey's team and seems very inexperienced in starting and playing 90 mins
He has potential, but we need to pay a sensible fee. It looks doubtful that he could play up top on his own, so if Robins ever wants to move away from 4-4-2, he will end up in the same boat here as he is currently at Portsmouth....
He is unproven really. Maybe a lot of sub appearances at a young age but you could hardly say he is even a semi-experienced goalscorer in league one.
My point was, if we are throwing half a million at him. It feels like a very bold decision given his goal tally so far. That's not his fault but we are gambling on him coming good. It wouldn't be a bad signing at all, but do you think if we sign him for that much money we would have anything left to bring in another striker?
We have lost McNulty who is a massive loss. To gamble that cash away on one player who is a lot more unproven in comparison could be a problem no?
If we bring in two strikers then 100% I think we should go for it. To sign him as a straight replacement for McNulty with no other back up could be an issue though.
If McNulty's value is £1.2m, then Chaplin cannot be worth more than a quarter of that fee given experience, goal record etc can he?!
I would be concerned if we paid more than £300k for him. He can't get in Pompey's team and seems very inexperienced in starting and playing 90 mins
He has potential, but we need to pay a sensible fee. It looks doubtful that he could play up top on his own, so if Robins ever wants to move away from 4-4-2, he will end up in the same boat here as he is currently at Portsmouth....
Feedback from one of my best mates, a season ticket holder at Fratton Park:
"Yes, very good player but that's a lot of money for him (I said I think we were offering £500-600k). He can't get in Pompey side as they can't work out where he plays best. Is a good sub but poor when he starts"
I said 'interesting'...man of many words and all that. He then responded with:
"Yes, comes off the bench and looks good, then want him to start but never takes his chance and looks poor! He is going and I want him to stay but that's good money to offer".
I'd never write someone off as any player can be entirely different when playing for different clubs (thinking Torres Liverpool/Chelsea or Salah Chelsea/Liverpool). I trust in Robins though.
He is unproven really. Maybe a lot of sub appearances at a young age but you could hardly say he is even a semi-experienced goalscorer in league one.
My point was, if we are throwing half a million at him. It feels like a very bold decision given his goal tally so far. That's not his fault but we are gambling on him coming good. It wouldn't be a bad signing at all, but do you think if we sign him for that much money we would have anything left to bring in another striker?
We have lost McNulty who is a massive loss. To gamble that cash away on one player who is a lot more unproven in comparison could be a problem no?
If we bring in two strikers then 100% I think we should go for it. To sign him as a straight replacement for McNulty with no other back up could be an issue though.
I understand the maths but if there is around £700k left I don’t think for a minute it will be all splashed on one player. There will be freebies fee wise all over the place from premier and championship that kind of money will give Robins plenty of clout wages wise but then there’s this scmp or is it ffp bollox how much we are allowed of that money to spend I don’t know.Have to remember, if you are equating money in/out with McNulty the following
£1.2M McNulty
wages = say 3k x 52kks = £150,000 ish
Buy £700k player
Buy £500k player
Wage player 1 = more than McNulty (as L1 player and cost £700k)
Wage player 2 = more than McNulty (as L1 player and cost £500k)
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He’s getting on a bit now...I see Ronaldo has gone to Juve. If we'd have signed him as McNulty's replacement there would still be members on this forum questioning the fact he's never scored a league one goal.
He’s hardly ‘unproven’, he’s made over 100 appearances at the age of 21. Albeit, largely coming off the bench. Yet, still has 25 goals in total, which is a decent haul given he’s been largely used as a sub. Given that Pitman scored 24 goals last season, you can hardly blame them for not starting Chaplin. From what I’ve read, Doyle rates him v highly and was impressed with him at his time in Portsmouth.
We also need to see who the other striker Robins planned to bring in (regardless of what McNulty ended up doing).
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