Agreed and if Vik and Hamer leave which is very likely we are left with quite a big hole to fill.I think that’s right to be fair. Not sure why everyone is saying it’s negative either thing it’s pretty pragmatic and I wouldn’t see that as a failure. We massively overachieved to sneak in the playoffs this year and while it would’ve been a fairytale ending if we made it happen and were agonisingly close…I’m not sure it was every the plan really
I think you look at the bigger picture and say if we’ve signed 8 new players all fantastic potential on 3 year contracts but take a year to bed in but look likely to smash it the following season I think that’s not the worst thing in the worldYou don’t like accepting mid table is negative after this season, Wow
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Agreed and if Vik and Hamer leave which is very likely we are left with quite a big hole to fill.
Next season will be transitionalI think you look at the bigger picture and say if we’ve signed 8 new players all fantastic potential on 3 year contracts but take a year to bed in but look likely to smash it the following season I think that’s not the worst thing in the world
Bore off. Same sh*t from people last season. "Dis was are yeer!" MR and the Team have delivered every season. No evidence they can't plug the gaps in the summer and push on. It's not as if it's news we'd need lots of players - without the play off run, we were always going to be bringing in 8-10 new people to the squad. Plans will be in place. I'm looking fwd to it.Will be lucky to finish top half next season, with the teams coming down and the likes of Norwich , Middlesbrough, wba , Watford
This was our chance this season, we got let down badly
Doug king has an opportunity now, put vik and Hamer on prem wages with a non-promotion clause, show your loyalty to the club. Strengthen the squad, robins is shrewd he won’t need loads off money, keep the system but strengthen key areas
the success will give crowds of 25k+ we have the momentum now we can’t just chuck it away, success brings money a failing team means a failing club, the fans havnt seen the board back the manager and the club for over 20years it is now time to do that
you give robins a new deal , robins deserves backing and should demand it NOW
Doug king has an opportunity now, put vik and Hamer on prem wages with a non-promotion clause, show your loyalty to the club. Strengthen the squad, robins is shrewd he won’t need loads off money, keep the system but strengthen key areas
the success will give crowds of 25k+ we have the momentum now we can’t just chuck it away, success brings money a failing team means a failing club, the fans havnt seen the board back the manager and the club for over 20years it is now time to do that
you give robins a new deal , robins deserves backing and should demand it NOW
Think that's a bit harshThat won’t be good enough anything shy of top six will be failure in my opinion.
No. This got us in trouble before.
Keep the club well run and within its means, and we will get there eventually.
No gambling with the future of the club
We have to be at least in or around the playoffs next season.
Anything less will be a failure.
Exactly. Used to look with envy at clubs that have got what we have got nowWe need to just enjoy the Championship.
Next year we'll be playing big boys most weeks.
To put it into perspective, when we were in League 2, Southampton, Leicester, West Brom, Swansea, Watford, Huddersfield and Stoke were all in the Premier League. We're playing them all next season.
4/5 years ago, we'd get excited at the prospect of Notts County coming to the CBS with 1500 fans. Next season the majority will bring 3000 or more.
Matchday experience is great now. So many more options for drinking. The atmosphere is class. Plus, we start the season in hope of a play off push. That's what it's all about!
Isn't that borderline contradicting yourself?
I agree with the first thoughts, but don't agree that mid-table would be failure. Going to be a tough league next season.
Sometimes to go two steps forward you have to take a step back. Not saying we can't do it, but the likely major overhaul needed over the summer means that I wont necessarily consider being out of the top 6 a failure.Not really.
We’ve proved that we can make top 6 without risking the future of the club.
We just need to keep doing what we’re doing
It will be a tough league next season. But we have to improve. If we don’t improve then it’s a failure
Exactly so recruitment needs to be good. Get that part right then we could challenge for a top finish again but my concern is you don't find gems like Vik too often.But enough cash to more than fill it.
You would like to think so, just playing devil's advocate here, but what if Doug King is as bad as SisuBut enough cash to more than fill it.
Exactly so recruitment needs to be good. Get that part right then we could challenge for a top finish again but my concern is you don't find gems like Vik too often.
Sometimes to go two steps forward you have to take a step back. Not saying we can't do it, but the likely major overhaul needed over the summer means that I wont necessarily consider being out of the top 6 a failure.
That's my current thinking. I think we'll struggle to do as well as this year, but if we maintain a chance of the play-offs until at least the last few weeks and finish top half that would be acceptable.I’m not saying it would be a failure to not be in the top 6.
I’m saying it would be a failure to not be in contention.
We need to be top half, we chance of play Off’s right up to the end of the season.
I’d dare to say we only unearthed potential it was yok robins and vivash that have made the player he now isExactly so recruitment needs to be good. Get that part right then we could challenge for a top finish again but my concern is you don't find gems like Vik too often.
I wonder if we will adopt something more hybrid? I feel as though our countering relies on a player like Vik up top and players who can release quickly and accurately down channels like Hamer. Players like Godden have obviously been sacrificed for our recent system and focus around Vik so without him I wonder if we will try to mould it around spreading goals throughout the team more. Plus we will have Palmer and O'Hare back hopefully so may be able to "play" a bit more.Agreed with other posters - you can't stand still in football. That said, we were brilliant this season and will be a huge ask given the likely departures.
I think a lot depends on what direction Robins goes in. The ball-dominant style we had in L1 is probably what is needed for top 2, however I think we will stick to counter attacking. It allows you to compete with teams that are better resourced, as more reliant on tactics and coaching than individual quality.
I wonder if we will adopt something more hybrid? I feel as though our countering relies on a player like Vik up top and players who can release quickly and accurately down channels like Hamer. Players like Godden have obviously been sacrificed for our recent system and focus around Vik so without him I wonder if we will try to mould it around spreading goals throughout the team more. Plus we will have Palmer and O'Hare back hopefully so may be able to "play" a bit more.
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The average PL wage is £60k pw. The average championship salary is £7k pw. It's totally unrealistic to put Hamer and Vik on premier league wages (£6-7m per annum combined), let alone do that AND invest in the squad. Plus agents would soon realise how much we pay them and it would inflate the wage demands of any incoming players.Doug king has an opportunity now, put vik and Hamer on prem wages with a non-promotion clause, show your loyalty to the club. Strengthen the squad, robins is shrewd he won’t need loads off money, keep the system but strengthen key areas
the success will give crowds of 25k+ we have the momentum now we can’t just chuck it away, success brings money a failing team means a failing club, the fans havnt seen the board back the manager and the club for over 20years it is now time to do that
you give robins a new deal , robins deserves backing and should demand it NOW
We need to just enjoy the Championship.
Next year we'll be playing big boys most weeks.
To put it into perspective, when we were in League 2, Southampton, Leicester, West Brom, Swansea, Watford, Huddersfield and Stoke were all in the Premier League. We're playing them all next season.
4/5 years ago, we'd get excited at the prospect of Notts County coming to the CBS with 1500 fans. Next season the majority will bring 3000 or more.
Matchday experience is great now. So many more options for drinking. The atmosphere is class. Plus, we start the season in hope of a play off push. That's what it's all about!
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