Constantin Reiner (2 Viewers)

SlowerThanPlatt · Dec 29, 2016

According to various articles in the Austrian press, we have had a 19-year-old Austrian centre-back training with us recently. Apparently he 'convinced' at a training season and could immediately sign a contract with us. He is also going on trial with Oxford and Hearts in the next few weeks. He also says he rejected Derby and QPR because 'the leap into the second league would have been too great for me'.

Full article here: Zwei Youngsters stehen vor Auslandswechsel

I've tried to translate it but it still doesn't make a lot of sense so perhaps someone could translate it better.

Here is the obligatory photo at the Ricoh:

ccfchoi87 · Dec 29, 2016

Seems to have good pedigree but is he what we need? I wonder why reject Ojala but keep this guy

bradwellskyblues · Dec 29, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
Seems to have good pedigree but is he what we need? I wonder why reject Ojala but keep this guy

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Nick · Dec 29, 2016

He would be one going into the U23's I guess for the future. Does it say how recently he was here?

ccfcway · Dec 29, 2016

Nick said:
He would be one going into the U23's I guess for the future. Does it say how recently he was here?

Maybe on loan then like mcbean

trevelfarandwide · Dec 29, 2016

Great name, sounds like German royalty. Sign him up.

rupert_bear · Dec 29, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
Seems to have good pedigree but is he what we need? I wonder why reject Ojala but keep this guy

Gary Gillespie was seventeen and was playing for Scottish second division Falkirk when he joined us within twelve months he was a regular first team player, if you are good enough your old enough.

ccfchoi87 · Dec 29, 2016

rupert_bear said:
Gary Gillespie was seventeen and was playing for Scottish second division Falkirk when he joined us within twelve months he was a regular first team player, if you are good enough your old enough.

I don't dispute that but remember relegation year from the championship, we brought in Ollie Norwood who was fantastic but not the brute we needed amongst an inexperienced side to drag us out of trouble. Sometimes you need a bit of game management to swing a close game your way. Our team doesn't have that

SlowerThanPlatt · Dec 29, 2016

Some more information, roughly translated:

This is another football world, "enthused Constantin Reiner, an Anif's defending champion, who had been a guest at the English third-league team Coventry City since Sunday, completed a trial training session and is now back home The difference between Austria's and England's third game class is striking. "The level in England is much higher. It's played more physically.

Reiner, who was placed in Coventry's Jack McBean's players' apartment, is hard hit by the island adventure. He also got used to training with the pros quickly. "I did not need much time."

The desire to return to England quickly is great with the defensive player. "I have to wait and see if they are interested in me." Even a change in winter is an option. "I could imagine that," Reiner points out. And this, although the Maturastress is waiting for him in the spring. "This would be a madness," explained Anif coach Tom Hofer, who assumes that he can also build on the Youngster in the West league backround. This does not see the double load so dramatically. "I'd try to finish the school, I'm in the SSM, and that's where the Fernmatura should go."

Sky Blue Harry H · Dec 29, 2016

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Some more information, roughly translated:

Bit worrying if he thinks we're physical !!

ccfchoi87 · Dec 29, 2016

It's sad that a thread about a potential new signing has far less interest than a thread about phoning a receptionist at sisu capital

ccfcway · Dec 29, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
It's sad that a thread about a potential new signing has far less interest than a thread about phoning a receptionist at sisu capital

funny isn't it. One wont come, and one wont go

Terry Gibson's perm · Dec 30, 2016

Another baffling signing if he signs not what we need at this time, we need players that have played at this level and still can, even if it's a low wage all these wages add up we don't need numbers we need first team players.

sw88 · Dec 30, 2016

Looks like a missing member of the enemy rather than a footballer.......

Also, think the photo was taken on an iphone 7. Glad it's not just my phone that weirdly includes the little dots at the bottom

Nick · Dec 30, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Another baffling signing if he signs not what we need at this time, we need players that have played at this level and still can, even if it's a low wage all these wages add up we don't need numbers we need first team players.

It depends I guess, if he is highly rated and will be good enough in a couple of years then it's just the same as paying Jack Finch with more potential.

bawtryneal · Dec 30, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Another baffling signing if he signs not what we need at this time, we need players that have played at this level and still can, even if it's a low wage all these wages add up we don't need numbers we need first team players.

Agree. Now is not the time for kids but hardened pros who know League 1 and can add some passion and steel to the team.

Terry Gibson's perm · Dec 30, 2016

Nick said:
It depends I guess, if he is highly rated and will be good enough in a couple of years then it's just the same as paying Jack Finch with more potential.

Then get rid of Jack Finch first, in a couple of years we could easily be non league so will need a different type of player again.

ccfcway · Dec 30, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Another baffling signing if he signs not what we need at this time.

cant have it both ways. I am sure this is "one for the future" and maybe not just short term thinking.

Hardly like he will be taking money away from 1st team budget, and even I he was, it would be a small amount. We might need players like this in the coming years to sell on if the academy conveyer belt dries up. Sounds like more of an investment than a asset to help with a league one survival push.

This one would be more like signing Ponticelli than Turnbull

Otis · Dec 30, 2016

ccfcway said:
cant have it both ways. I am sure this is "one for the future" and maybe not just short term thinking.

Hardly like he will be taking money away from 1st team budget, and even I he was, it would be a small amount. We might need players like this in the coming years to sell on if the academy conveyer belt dries up. Sounds like more of an investment than a asset to help with a league one survival push.

This one I can understand, McBean I couldn't !

If he's one for the future has anyone asked him if he is happy playing at Conference level in 2 years?

ccfcway · Dec 30, 2016

Otis said:
If he's one for the future has anyone asked him if he is happy playing at Conference level in 2 years?

why would you ?. If he's good enough to play league football, we would sell him before then.

Terry Gibson's perm · Dec 30, 2016

ccfcway said:
cant have it both ways. I am sure this is "one for the future" and maybe not just short term thinking.

Hardly like he will be taking money away from 1st team budget, and even I he was, it would be a small amount. We might need players like this in the coming years to sell on if the academy conveyer belt dries up. Sounds like more of an investment than a asset to help with a league one survival push.

This one would be more like signing Ponticelli than Turnbull

Any money spent takes money away from the first team even in football terms a small amount, my nephew is a first year pro in this league at Fleetwood and his money is not bad. At this stage we need short term thinking (normally Sisu speciality) we need the best quality available not quantity. The academy will dry up once we drop into non league.

Deleted member 5849 · Dec 30, 2016

ccfcway said:
cant have it both ways. I am sure this is "one for the future" and maybe not just short term thinking.

Hardly like he will be taking money away from 1st team budget, and even I he was, it would be a small amount. We might need players like this in the coming years to sell on if the academy conveyer belt dries up. Sounds like more of an investment than a asset to help with a league one survival push

I'm always more reassured when we go for the future signings anyway, shows some kind of planning still exists at the club!

ccfcway · Dec 30, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Any money spent takes money away from the first team even in football terms a small amount, my nephew is a first year pro in this league at Fleetwood and his money is not bad. At this stage we need short term thinking (normally Sisu speciality) we need the best quality available not quantity. The academy will dry up once we drop into non league.

The logical option would be to close the academy if we aren't investing in it and put all resource into the 1st team then ?

The academy is our future. Its pleasing to hear we are looking at players who could make the youth set up stronger.

Nick · Dec 30, 2016

No issue with signing decent young players to bring on in the Under 23s for a bit.

bawtryneal · Dec 30, 2016

Nick said:
No issue with signing decent young players to bring on in the Under 23s for a bit.

Totally agree of course, as long as similar thinking and money is spent on the first team
The owners have to decide very quickly if they are to continue down the current path or make some form of investment to get bums back on seats at the Ricoh
For sure they will read this forum and will read the apathy. If the fans who post on here ( the real diehards) feel the way we do what the hell must the rest think

Terry Gibson's perm · Dec 30, 2016

ccfcway said:
The logical option would be to close the academy if we aren't investing in it and put all resource into the 1st team then ?

The academy is our future. Its pleasing to hear we are looking at players who could make the youth set up stronger.

No keep the academy, but we have a limited playing budget so adding costs is not the best thing to do you are aware we are in the bottom four and look doomed, this chap brings nothing to the immediate issue. We would be paying this guy around 12k over the next six months would that money no be better directed towards a player for the first team at this stage.

ceetee · Dec 30, 2016

Well it's a better investment than paying a fine for pitch invasion

PVA · Dec 30, 2016

Terry Gibson's perm said:
Another baffling signing if he signs not what we need at this time, we need players that have played at this level and still can, even if it's a low wage all these wages add up we don't need numbers we need first team players.

How can you call it a baffling signing when you've never seen him play?

So what if he's only 19. Willis and Turnbull are conceding a shed load of goals so I doubt this guy can do any worse.

Scott Dann was about 20 when he signed and was instantly our best defender.

This guy may turn out to be shite but to label him as a baffling signing when we're so short at the back is just daft.

Terry Gibson's perm · Dec 30, 2016

PVA said:
How can you call it a baffling signing when you've never seen him play?

So what if he's only 19. Willis and Turnbull are conceding a shed load of goals so I doubt this guy can do any worse.

Scott Dann was about 20 when he signed and was instantly our best defender.

This guy may turn out to be shite but to label him as a baffling signing when we're so short at the back is just daft.

Have you seen him play? We are not short of kids at the back we need players who have played in this league now, we have a tiny budget and gave learnt nothing about where to spend it the problem we have is now.

Would that be Scott Dann who had played about 50 games for Walsall when we signed him?

bawtryneal · Dec 30, 2016

ceetee said:
Well it's a better investment than paying a fine for pitch invasion

Huh. What fine is this then??

bawtryneal · Dec 30, 2016

PVA said:
How can you call it a baffling signing when you've never seen him play?

So what if he's only 19. Willis and Turnbull are conceding a shed load of goals so I doubt this guy can do any worse.

Scott Dann was about 20 when he signed and was instantly our best defender.

This guy may turn out to be shite but to label him as a baffling signing when we're so short at the back is just daft.

We need experience. A big solid lump who has been round the block a few times. Reda without the injuries.

fernandopartridge · Dec 30, 2016

bawtryneal said:
We need experience. A big solid lump who has been round the block a few times. Reda without the injuries.

Yes but it doesn't mean you can't think beyond the next few months either. We need both and it doesn't mean that if we signed this young player we won't sign a more experienced player as well.

Otis · Dec 30, 2016

He's a bit slight isn't he.

More like ConstanTintin.

wingy · Dec 30, 2016

Otis said:
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He's a bit slight isn't he.

More like ConstanTintin.

That link is not working for some reason.

Otis · Dec 30, 2016

wingy said:
That link is not working for some reason.

It's only the same picture of the lad already used, Wingy.

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