Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (122 Viewers)

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 22, 2021

Evo1883 said:
I have a new question, I've been working where I'm working for 8 months through an agency , always said to my missus that when I go full time contract we'd book a holiday for the following year .

Jobs have come up on contract and I've applied , so hopefully if all goes well il be employed by them by the end of July.

Would you book abroad for summer 2022?

While you're here... you're not one of the ones working to rule, so my bins aren't getting emptied, are you?

tbh I'd wait for booking abroad until it all settles down - unless it's free refund, or only losing a small deposit of course. Also depends where you want to go I guess, too. If it's USA or (Europe!) then they ought to be similar rate of vaccines to us so it's either working or not, and you'd assume travel would be OK if all is good. If you fancy a trip to Guatamala however...

Evo1883 · Jun 22, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
While you're here... you're not one of the ones working to rule, so my bins aren't getting emptied, are you?

tbh I'd wait for booking abroad until it all settles down - unless it's free refund, or only losing a small deposit of course. Also depends where you want to go I guess, too. If it's USA or (Europe!) then they ought to be similar rate of vaccines to us so it's either working or not, and you'd assume travel would be OK if all is good. If you fancy a trip to Guatamala however...

When I tell some of the residents that even my blue bin wasn't emptied, they can't quite believe that themselves.

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We are working hard to ensure all waste is collected , please be patient.

I'm a little hesitant to discuss it on here as I don't know who is lurking

Deleted member 5849 · Jun 22, 2021

Evo1883 said:
When I tell some of the residents that even my blue bin wasn't emptied, they can't quite believe that themselves.

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We are working hard to ensure all waste is collected , please be patient.

I'm a little hesitant to discuss it on here as I don't know who is lurking

Fair enough. Someone did pop something up on my local facebook(!) page about health and safety measures being expected to be shortcut and if so, I'll stand with you comrade

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 22, 2021

CCFCSteve said:
BSB - sounds like Hill might have some suitable wedding venue options !

We’re having it on the postponed date regardless of what the twat in Westminster says

hill83 · Jun 22, 2021

Evo1883 said:
get the fucking ball now , or il come in your house and bounce your head off every fucking wall you c**t

Said Doyle to Burge after another wayward clearance.

SBAndy · Jun 22, 2021

Saddlebrains said:
I thought you were fully on the unlock side?

Either way it seems a lot of people have took offence to my words, apologised already so wont again, but i dont apologise for having an opinion that this shit needs to stop and we need normality. Boris and co keep saying we need to live with it. So lets live with it

I think that’s fair. As it stands, I don’t see fit reason for this to be extended beyond 19th July and by then you’d expect to have more than sufficient data to make a better judgement.

Whether that data says what we are all desperate for it to say is another matter entirely!

SBT · Jun 22, 2021

Pretty weird that the same people complaining endlessly that everyone else/the media are secret lockdown lovers are the same ones encouraging everyone to sack off the few restrictions we have left, even though there’s only a few weeks to go.

Maybe some people are finding mask-wearing a bit harder than I’ve been, and we’ve all got a choice - if I loved lockdown so much that I wanted to try and get another last-minute extension then I know which I’d choose though.

chiefdave · Jun 22, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
I've learned so much about my neighbours the past year and a half.

I've learned a lot of my neighbours don't seem to work!

robbiekeane · Jun 22, 2021

Evo1883 said:
I have a new question, I've been working where I'm working for 8 months through an agency , always said to my missus that when I go full time contract we'd book a holiday for the following year .

Jobs have come up on contract and I've applied , so hopefully if all goes well il be employed by them by the end of July.

Would you book abroad for summer 2022?

Yes. There's no way in hell you won't be able to go abroad in summer 2022. People just wont have it.

Also, mexico.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 22, 2021

SBT said:
Pretty weird that the same people complaining endlessly that everyone else/the media are secret lockdown lovers are the same ones encouraging everyone to sack off the few restrictions we have left, even though there’s only a few weeks to go.

Maybe some people are finding mask-wearing a bit harder than I’ve been, and we’ve all got a choice - if I loved lockdown so much that I wanted to try and get another last-minute extension then I know which I’d choose though.

Well it’s a month, not a couple of weeks. And they seem happy to let 45,000 pack into Wembley a couple of times before that’s up

ovduk78 · Jun 23, 2021

Evo1883 said:
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Most people hospitalised are released on the same day too apparently ..

My friend was initially, although this was at the peak of the pandemic and he ended up in ICU a few days later

My worry from these figures isn't the total hospitalisation but the fact that 84 people who had had the 2nd dose were hospitalised and 26 of these died. Whilst we don't know if they had underlying health conditions or their ages the fact remains that the vaccine isn't 100% efficient and people can still die so maybe we still need to be wary and thoughtful of others even if we've had our 2nd jab.

Nick · Jun 23, 2021

Ohhhh Delta Plus COVID now.

Mutant Ninja.

Stop the world.

Grendel · Jun 23, 2021

ovduk78 said:
My worry from these figures isn't the total hospitalisation but the fact that 84 people who had had the 2nd dose were hospitalised and 26 of these died. Whilst we don't know if they had underlying health conditions or their ages the fact remains that the vaccine isn't 100% efficient and people can still die so maybe we still need to be wary and thoughtful of others even if we've had our 2nd jab.

The point is though the numbers overall are less - people jabbed die of flu it’s just massively reduced

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 23, 2021

ovduk78 said:
My worry from these figures isn't the total hospitalisation but the fact that 84 people who had had the 2nd dose were hospitalised and 26 of these died. Whilst we don't know if they had underlying health conditions or their ages the fact remains that the vaccine isn't 100% efficient and people can still die so maybe we still need to be wary and thoughtful of others even if we've had our 2nd jab.

Thousands die of flu every year despite being vaccinated. The state cannot prevent death and we cannot resort to hiding every winter in case it happens.

Sky Blue Pete · Jun 23, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Thousands die of flu every year despite being vaccinated. The state cannot prevent death and we cannot resort to hiding every winter in case it happens.

Very true

Nick · Jun 23, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Thousands die of flu every year despite being vaccinated. The state cannot prevent death and we cannot resort to hiding every winter in case it happens.

Exactly.

People need to understand this but the fact it is going to be in their faces everytime they put the news on to scare them, people won't see it like that.

Death has always happened and always will.

shmmeee · Jun 23, 2021

Death has never been the issue. We’ve never tried to stop deaths. We’ve tried to stop our systems being overrun. Those saying “well we just need to live with it” are asking for significant tax rises to spend on the systems that would be otherwise overrun.

AOM · Jun 23, 2021

Nick said:
Ohhhh Delta Plus COVID now.

Mutant Ninja.

Stop the world.

Delta Plus sounds like a dodgy club in town

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 23, 2021

shmmeee said:
Death has never been the issue. We’ve never tried to stop deaths. We’ve tried to stop our systems being overrun. Those saying “well we just need to live with it” are asking for significant tax rises to spend on the systems that would be otherwise overrun.

Serious illness, same practical consequence for the health service. If someone is double jabbed and boostered, that’s all that can reasonably be asked of the state in protecting them.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 23, 2021

AOM said:
Delta Plus sounds like a dodgy club in town

More like Channel 969

Nick · Jun 23, 2021

shmmeee said:
Death has never been the issue. We’ve never tried to stop deaths. We’ve tried to stop our systems being overrun. Those saying “well we just need to live with it” are asking for significant tax rises to spend on the systems that would be otherwise overrun.

Maybe we can ban cars and roads to stop people from going to hospital from accidents?
Maybe we can just cull obese people who will often use the NHS a lot more because they are obese?

Is it going to be a case of lockdowns every winter to stop the systems from being overrun?

MusicDating · Jun 23, 2021

Guardian current headline -

Govt ventilator dash -

Nick · Jun 23, 2021

They will spin it on percentages though.

After all if there were 5 and then the next week there were 10 it would be a 100% increase and that's what they would run with as a headline.

Scaremongering bullshit.

Cityandproud87 · Jun 23, 2021

Here we go again! Another Variant that's magically appeared out of thin air! People need to stop complying with this if they delay July 19th it's becoming a joke.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 23, 2021

Cityandproud87 said:
Here we go again! Another Variant that's magically appeared out of thin air! People need to stop complying with this if they delay July 19th it's becoming a joke.

If they extend the restrictions again we fully intend to carry out the heinous act of dancing and singing indoors. The question is will one policeman or two be required to haul out the missus

Cityandproud87 · Jun 23, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
If they extend the restrictions again we fully intend to carry out the heinous act of dancing and singing indoors. The question is will one policeman or two be required to haul out the missus

This Ends on July the 19th. If some people want to lock themselves away forever then so be it! The vaccines work and all the vunerable people are double jabbed....what more can be done?

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 23, 2021

Cityandproud87 said:
This Ends on July the 19th. If some people want to lock themselves away forever then so be it! The vaccines work and all the vunerable people are double jabbed....what more can be done?

60,000 people allowed at Wembley, 140,000 at Sipverstone but stand up drink receptions and indoor dancing remain banned. It’s almost like the politicians have a vested interest

Cityandproud87 · Jun 23, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
60,000 people allowed at Wembley, 140,000 at Sipverstone but stand up drink receptions and indoor dancing remain banned. It’s almost like the politicians have a vested interest

Joke isn't it mate! What's the latest with the wedding?

SBT · Jun 23, 2021

Nick said:
Maybe we can ban cars and roads to stop people from going to hospital from accidents?
Maybe we can just cull obese people who will often use the NHS a lot more because they are obese?

Is it going to be a case of lockdowns every winter to stop the systems from being overrun?

How are we still on this? Like a kid playing a video game all year and never getting past the first level.

Cityandproud87 · Jun 23, 2021

SBT said:
How are we still on this? Like a kid playing a video game all year and never getting past the first level.

He's got a point though?

Brighton Sky Blue · Jun 23, 2021

Cityandproud87 said:
Joke isn't it mate! What's the latest with the wedding?

Rebooked for the week he hopefully opens things back up. We have kept all our suppliers and day guests but we have now lost half a dozen or so evening guests.

SBT · Jun 23, 2021

Cityandproud87 said:
He's got a point though?

If car accidents, or obese people were overwhelming the NHS, then we’d regulate them more. But they don’t, so we don’t.

Good luck with level 2!

CCFCSteve · Jun 23, 2021

Nick said:
They will spin it on percentages though.

After all if there were 5 and then the next week there were 10 it would be a 100% increase and that's what they would run with as a headline.

Scaremongering bullshit.

Agreed. I don’t mind reporting of facts but as I’ve said numerous times the media have been a disgrace throughout this. In my view the guardian is the liberal (I know people got offended when I said left leaning !) version of the Mail. Both just spew negativity. Most media happily commented on the recent, bordering on impossible, modelling worst case scenarios talking about 40k hospitalisations per day and 6k-10k deaths per day* (without any proper context) and all use percentages when it suits them ie when cases or negative figures increase. It’s wrong

*both unsurprisingly have been significantly revised downwards. No shit. They probably required the vaccines to not work and the whole country to meet for one giant spreading party

David O'Day · Jun 23, 2021

SBT said:
If car accidents, or obese people were overwhelming the NHS, then we’d regulate them more. But they don’t, so we don’t.

Good luck with level 2!

We also have laws that regulate and make car usage safer and we are taking action i.e. sugar taxes on obesity

It's a shit argument

Deleted member 11652 · Jun 23, 2021

SBT said:
If car accidents, or obese people were overwhelming the NHS, then we’d regulate them more. But they don’t, so we don’t.

Good luck with level 2!

Hi mate Andy Turner would like a coffee

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