Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (244 Viewers)

robbiekeane · Oct 23, 2021

chiefdave said:
Do you mean something like this?

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Perfect thanks. Could you share the link to that date? How far back does it go. For a very long time I couldn’t find anything like this.

Surely the total number of cases shouldn’t ever be reported without the figures in the top chart also? What relevance is it to compare number of cases today and make sweeping statements like “it’s the highest number of cases since March…”?

I am not saying the % of positives isn’t as high as March it could well be, but comparing absolutes is ridiculous

chiefdave · Oct 23, 2021

CCFCSteve said:
we know vaccines don’t really stop transmission though

Looks like there's recent research which indicates vaccination does have an impact on transmission.

Vaccinated people are less likely to spread Covid, new research finds

British scientists examined how the Pfizer-BioNTech and the AstraZeneca vaccines affected the spread of the virus if a person had a breakthrough infection.

www.nbcnews.com

chiefdave · Oct 23, 2021

robbiekeane said:
Perfect thanks. Could you share the link to that date? How far back does it go. For a very long time I couldn’t find anything like this.

Surely the total number of cases shouldn’t ever be reported without the figures in the top chart also? What relevance is it to compare number of cases today and make sweeping statements like “it’s the highest number of cases since March…”?

I am not saying the % of positives isn’t as high as March it could well be, but comparing absolutes is ridiculous

Take a look here, you can pick what countries you want and there's all sorts of data you can pick from.

COVID-19 Data Explorer

Explore global data on COVID-19.

ourworldindata.org

For me cases is only really any use for spotting trends in a particular country, even then you have to assume the criteria for testing in that particular country hasn't changed.

For example you can look at our numbers and see that testing has been relatively flat for months, dips down when schools are off but other than that fairly consistent. So you can then look at changes in cases and get a idea of the direction we're going in. So this week tests were again flat with just a 1.4% increase on the previous week, yet cases are up 18.1%.

As ever its better to look at hospitalisations and deaths, up 9.1% and 15.8% respectively. Been mentioned many times on this thread that excess deaths will be the best indication but there's a lag of months in getting those figures, the data up to 2nd July was published 15th October, so not much use in making reactive decisions.

CCFCSteve · Oct 23, 2021

chiefdave said:
Looks like there's recent research which indicates vaccination does have an impact on transmission.

Vaccinated people are less likely to spread Covid, new research finds

British scientists examined how the Pfizer-BioNTech and the AstraZeneca vaccines affected the spread of the virus if a person had a breakthrough infection.

www.nbcnews.com

Sorry, I wasn’t clear Dave. It might have a positive impact on transmission but it doesn’t stop it. As we can tell currently !!

Grendel · Oct 23, 2021

Sick Boy said:
Blimey, I thought there was a major cover up going on in Italy.

er no one said that it’s that mass testing as the U.K. does means more cases if more testing? The U.K. administered it says 6.9 million tests in a week which is a pointless measure against countries who have massively reduced test reporting

skybluetony176 · Oct 23, 2021

Grendel said:
er no one said that it’s that mass testing as the U.K. does means more cases if more testing? The U.K. administered it says 6.9 million tests in a week which is a pointless measure against countries who have massively reduced test reporting

So. Does testing give you Covid?

Kieranp96 · Oct 23, 2021

Evidence is starting to show # of cases are starting to go down again, id be happy if they stayed around 30k a day over Xmas

I know most you dont like me as im straight up but I do give some entertainment

covmark · Oct 23, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
Evidence is starting to show # of cases are starting to go down again, id be happy if they stayed around 30k a day over Xmas

I know most you dont like me as im straight up but I do give some entertainment

It's not that no one likes you, know one knows you. You just talk utter shite.

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Kieranp96 · Oct 23, 2021

covmark said:
It's not that no one likes you, know one knows you. You just talk utter shite.

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Tomato Tomato.

David O'Day · Oct 23, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
Tomato Tomato.

You do chat whiff though. You pencil sharpener

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Kieranp96 · Oct 23, 2021

David O'Day said:
You do chat whiff though. You pencil sharpener

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Yawn, you ink refiller.

Sick Boy · Oct 23, 2021

UK government paves way to bring in tough ‘plan B’ Covid rules

Councils consulted over support for measures such as vaccine passports amid warnings by senior doctors that NHS faces winter illness ‘triple whammy’

www.theguardian.com

Kieranp96 · Oct 24, 2021

3 continuous days of case drops, are we over this peak already?

Evo1883 · Oct 24, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
3 continuous days of case drops, are we over this peak already?

I think I've heard on here that Sunday is never a true reflection on the figures

Kieranp96 · Oct 24, 2021

Evo1883 said:
I think I've heard on here that Sunday is never a true reflection on the figures

There was more cases last Sunday 42k.

chiefdave · Oct 24, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
There was more cases last Sunday 42k.

We can hope but Friday and Saturday were both higher than Friday and Saturday last week so I think a bit early to say we're over the worst of this wave.

David O'Day · Oct 24, 2021

chiefdave said:
We can hope but Friday and Saturday were both higher than Friday and Saturday last week so I think a bit early to say we're over the worst of this wave.

Cases are likely rise still eve the government admit that.

fernandopartridge · Oct 24, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
3 continuous days of case drops, are we over this peak already?

Hopefully

duffer · Oct 25, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
Why would I be betting? Lmao get lost ya freak, I will find evidence when I want but I aint getting myself into a gambling situation.

Because you know you're talking bollocks, so you've bottled it.

There is no evidence whatsoever for your utter bullshit. Fuck off and troll on Facebook, loser, I've just shown you for what you are.

Kieranp96 · Oct 25, 2021

duffer said:
Because you know you're talking bollocks, so you've bottled it.

There is no evidence whatsoever for your utter bullshit. Fuck off and troll on Facebook, loser, I've just shown you for what you are.

Dont do Facebook sweetheart

Kieranp96 · Oct 25, 2021

4 days of continuous drops, lets hope it starts to die out now like it did in july and September

fernandopartridge · Oct 25, 2021

It's burned through the school population who were the last large unvaccinated cohort so it's running out of susceptible people, especially if boosters are delivered quickly.
The boosters seem to be highly effective and quickly effective so hopefully a better Christmas and some relative relief for the NHS to come.

CCFCSteve · Oct 25, 2021

Yeah, good news over the last few days. It’s too early to say but maybe there was an element of the return to school spike, which Scotland also saw before cases eventually reduced...it just appeared to take a bit longer to filter through in England. Fingers crossed anyway

Also with half term for many this week, hopefully that will help. I think I heard earlier that we did 300k+ boosters on Saturday as well.

CCFCSteve · Oct 25, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
It's burned through the school population who were the last large unvaccinated cohort so it's running out of susceptible people, especially if boosters are delivered quickly.
The boosters seem to be highly effective and quickly effective so hopefully a better Christmas and some relative relief for the NHS to come.

Beat me to it ! Let’s hope so anyway

Kieranp96 · Oct 25, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
It's burned through the school population who were the last large unvaccinated cohort so it's running out of susceptible people, especially if boosters are delivered quickly.
The boosters seem to be highly effective and quickly effective so hopefully a better Christmas and some relative relief for the NHS to come.

Boosters seem to restore to full protection of previous two doses + some.

skybluetony176 · Oct 25, 2021

So. Does this mean you can catch it off friends after all? I don’t get it, prof Rees-Mogg said you couldn’t.

Cheltenham MP gets Covid after going maskless in Commons

This comes in the same week as Cheltenham's Covid cases rise

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 26, 2021

NHS saying over half of over 50s have now had their booster shots.

Kieranp96 · Oct 26, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
NHS saying over half of over 50s have now had their booster shots.

My grandparents both nearly 80 and can't actually get in so it must be everywhere else carrying the numbers up because they're shit useless here.

chiefdave · Oct 26, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
My grandparents both nearly 80 and can't actually get in so it must be everywhere else carrying the numbers up because they're shit useless here.

Looks like something has been changed so hopefully they will hear soon.

My parents were waiting and getting concerned they kept being told it wasn't available for them yet despite being past 6 months after their 2nd jabs. Both have now been booked in for this week but only got the call yesterday. I've also got mine booked in due to being on the vulnerable list, again didn't hear until this week.

Kieranp96 · Oct 26, 2021

chiefdave said:
Looks like something has been changed so hopefully they will hear soon.

My parents were waiting and getting concerned they kept being told it wasn't available for them yet despite being past 6 months after their 2nd jabs. Both have now been booked in for this week but only got the call yesterday. I've also got mine booked in due to being on the vulnerable list, again didn't hear until this week.

Yea lets hope, I wont get mine until they run down the list and hit my age but I dont even think I will be living in the uk at this point so dont really bother me + I have natural infections immunity so I should be good for atleast another 6/8 months

fernandopartridge · Oct 26, 2021

Kieranp96 said:
My grandparents both nearly 80 and can't actually get in so it must be everywhere else carrying the numbers up because they're shit useless here.

It's been misreported by the BBC. It's actually 50% of those eligible / invited so actually 25% or less of the over 50s

Kieranp96 · Oct 26, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
It's been misreported by the BBC. It's actually 50% of those eligible / invited so actually 25% or less of the over 50s

Makes more sense, well lets hope it gets to all 50+ within the next few months.

Kieranp96 · Oct 26, 2021

Seen today official ons etatistic people expect cases to be as low as 5k a day come Xmas day.

Kieranp96 · Oct 26, 2021

40k today but 8k from Wales from the past 3 days if I have understood it correctly

Sick Boy · Oct 26, 2021

Opening up boosters to all in Italy from January.

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