Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (8 Viewers)

skybluetony176 · Nov 25, 2021

mark82 said:
In case anyone is wondering, this isn't true. Bad flu year is about 30k deaths (including pneumonia). Covid killed over 70k in UK in 2020, bearing in mind it didn't really kick in until spring.

For a bit of perspective there were over 30k Covid deaths in January 2021 alone, more in one month than you'd get in even a bad full year with flu.

Listen. If Right Said Fred say it’s only the flu it’s only the flu. They should know they hold the record for the song to hold the No. 2 spot for the longest time without ever reaching No. 1. If you need further confirmation there’s always the expert opinion of Boris Johnson’s personal weatherman and climate change adviser, Piers Corbyn. If you still need further proof, for some reason, the world’s No. 1 lizard people detective, ex Son of Godhead and world’s No. 1 tidal wave predictor but takes Boxing Days off so… David Icke. Nail in the coffin, the ex Mr Billy Piper says so. Wake up sheeple.

Kieranp96 · Nov 25, 2021

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
New coronavirus strain detected in South Africa. Experts say it's possibly the worst yet. Here we go again .

Lets hope itz not a bad mutation on the vaccine evasion and mortality and is just a crazy transmissible one again.

ccfctommy · Nov 25, 2021

AOM said:
So... the Championship eh....

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First Flecky and the Wigan player. Gail Emms has said she has had a really high BPM afterwards and side affects.

Is there something regarding elite sports people and the vaccine?

Kieranp96 · Nov 25, 2021

ccfctommy said:
First Flecky and the Wigan player. Gail Emms has said she has had a really high BPM afterwards and side affects.

Is there something regarding elite sports people and the vaccine?

Wyke wasn't vaccinated, wigan said that in there announcement =).

skybluetony176 · Nov 25, 2021

ccfctommy said:
First Flecky and the Wigan player. Gail Emms has said she has had a really high BPM afterwards and side affects.

Is there something regarding elite sports people and the vaccine?

Didn’t Gail Emma retire after the 2008 Olympics? I know she had a bad reaction to the jab but she hasn’t been an elite sports person for over a decade.

fernandopartridge · Nov 26, 2021

ccfctommy said:
First Flecky and the Wigan player. Gail Emms has said she has had a really high BPM afterwards and side affects.

Is there something regarding elite sports people and the vaccine?

Given that you've got no idea whether they've had the vaccine or not I'd say it's just wild speculation

Marty · Nov 26, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
Given that you've got no idea whether they've had the vaccine or not I'd say it's just wild speculation

Well, we do know that the mother in law of one of our players has had serious side effects from the vaccine and is now in a wheelchair/disabled.

I've tested positive for covid today.

Wyken Sky Blue · Nov 26, 2021

As soon as the new variant was announced the UK has moved pretty quickly to stop flights from a number of countries, much quicker than earlier in the year for Delta

Either they've learned their lesson or the new variant is very bad

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Skybluefaz · Nov 26, 2021

Marty said:
Well, we do know that the mother in law of one of our players has had serious side effects from the vaccine and is now in a wheelchair/disabled.

I've tested positive for covid today.

Our players? A cov player?

shmmeee · Nov 26, 2021

Bugsy said:
What's homophobic about what he said. Because he used the word gay u call it out as a homophobic insult. Ffs,

Using gay as an insult implies there’s something wrong with being gay…

Marty · Nov 26, 2021

Skybluefaz said:
Our players? A cov player?

Yeah.

Wyken Sky Blue · Nov 26, 2021

Marty said:
Yeah.

Who is it out of interest?

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chiefdave · Nov 26, 2021

Marty said:
Well, we do know that the mother in law of one of our players has had serious side effects from the vaccine and is now in a wheelchair/disabled.

Do we? Am I the only one that hasn't heard anything about this?

Edit: should read the later posts first, seems I'm not the only one who has no idea about this!

Sky Blue Pete · Nov 26, 2021

Bello said:
More deaths from vaccines and you sad fucks are trying to make make out nothings wrong. Too frightened to mention the elephant in the room yesterday - Flecky. You pathetic cunts.

Didn’t have the vaccine mate

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 26, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Didn’t have the vaccine mate

Is that confirmed?

Sky Blue Pete · Nov 26, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Is that confirmed?

Allegedly and charlie wyke too. But no not confirmed just read it

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 26, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Allegedly and charlie wyke too. But no not confirmed just read it

Hmmm, still speculation then.

In all this... even if it ended up some high profile people did have side effects, that wouldn't be surprising - nothing is 100%. It's all about risk isn't it? We're trying to move down, after all, to a position where Covid is manageable risk, and that doesn't mean people will stop dying from it.

Ultimately, the statistics show overwhelmingly that risks of vaccine are dwarfed by risks from Covid. There's no competition in that particular game!

Sky Blue Pete · Nov 26, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Hmmm, still speculation then.

In all this... even if it ended up some high profile people did have side effects, that wouldn't be surprising - nothing is 100%. It's all about risk isn't it? We're trying to move down, after all, to a position where Covid is manageable risk, and that doesn't mean people will stop dying from it.

Ultimately, the statistics show overwhelmingly that risks of vaccine are dwarfed by risks from Covid. There's no competition in that particular game!

And yeah sorry speculation

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 26, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
As soon as the new variant was announced the UK has moved pretty quickly to stop flights from a number of countries, much quicker than earlier in the year for Delta

Either they've learned their lesson or the new variant is very bad

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I'm hoping it's precautionary and that in fact some lessons have been learnt. If that is the case then not only will we hopefully not have another awful variant to deal with but i will have had a tiny modicum of faith restored that even the most pig-headed of people can learn and change.

Kieranp96 · Nov 26, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Is that confirmed?

No, confirmed wyke didn't bit no one knows about Fleck.

Kieranp96 · Nov 26, 2021

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I'm hoping it's precautionary and that in fact some lessons have been learnt. If that is the case then not only will we hopefully not have another awful variant to deal with but i will have had a tiny modicum of faith restored that even the most pig-headed of people can learn and change.

Its already here, no doubt about that, they first found it 2 weeks ago, guy traveled to hong kong with it and gave it to the guy across the hallway in a isolation hotel, thsy had no contact at all, so sounds very transmissible, also isreal have it.

clint van damme · Nov 26, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
Who is it out of interest?

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Jab ello

clint van damme · Nov 26, 2021

skyblue1991 said:
As soon as the new variant was announced the UK has moved pretty quickly to stop flights from a number of countries, much quicker than earlier in the year for Delta

Either they've learned their lesson or the new variant is very bad

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Think they just need time to assess how bad it is just as a precaution.

The press seem to jump on it and start the scaremongering stories, I'm sure it won't be worse than any variant spread out there, fingers crossed.

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 26, 2021

clint van damme said:
'm sure it won't be worse than any variant spread out there, fingers crossed.

Let's hope so!

There's the third alternative of course, where it evades vaccines but isn't particularly dangerous. Guess it's a wait and see but, for whatever reason, let's at least be thankful our government has acted differently to last year in this, at least.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Nov 26, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Hmmm, still speculation then.

In all this... even if it ended up some high profile people did have side effects, that wouldn't be surprising - nothing is 100%. It's all about risk isn't it? We're trying to move down, after all, to a position where Covid is manageable risk, and that doesn't mean people will stop dying from it.

Ultimately, the statistics show overwhelmingly that risks of vaccine are dwarfed by risks from Covid. There's no competition in that particular game!

If you are of a certain age they are. For younger people it virtually makes no difference.

Whether this wave of collapsing from sports people is a coincidence, or whether it is actually vaccine related, again, many younger people will be further discouraged to get the jab. If it has nothing to do with it they should just come out and say it rather than sweep it under the carpet. Skeptical people aren't stupid.

shmmeee · Nov 26, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
If you are of a certain age they are. For younger people it virtually makes no difference.

Whether this wave of collapsing from sports people is a coincidence, or whether it is actually vaccine related, again, many younger people will be further discouraged to get the jab. If it has nothing to do with it they should just come out and say it rather than sweep it under the carpet. Skeptical people aren't stupid.

Is there a wave of collapsing sports people? Or are we just noticing them all? Is there any data that suggests an increase over baseline?

Evo1883 · Nov 26, 2021

Still think athletes collapsing is more to do with their bodies being pushed to new extremes

Deleted member 5849 · Nov 26, 2021

Evo1883 said:
Still think athletes collapsing is more to do with their bodies being pushed to new extremes

It's the most likely answer.

clint van damme · Nov 26, 2021

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Evo1883 said:
Still think athletes collapsing is more to do with their bodies being pushed to new extremes

Ive no doubt there are potentially rare issues with the vacinne, a poster on here, Torquay Sky Blue had some serious side affects, (dont think he's posted for a bit, hope he's ok), but overall it's beneficial.

chiefdave · Nov 26, 2021

Evo1883 said:
Still think athletes collapsing is more to do with their bodies being pushed to new extremes

Seems a good place to start. Wonder if there's also an element of us hearing about these things more often due to the world of social media. In the past if some random player collapsed in a league overseas you were probably fairly unlikely to hear about it.

When Stuart Broad tore a muscle recently he spoke about how it was a surprise as he wasn't in the red zone. Their team keeps track of players workload, training etc and if they go into the red zone they are prone to injury or other issues. Don't know anymore details than that but wonder if we have the same in football. How many players ever get given an extended break in the season for recovery?

wingy · Nov 26, 2021

Anecdotal but I do know of one case of an extremely fit fanatical youngish woman 30's who unfortunately died after the vaccine, while maintaining her routine.

skybluetony176 · Nov 26, 2021

shmmeee said:
Is there a wave of collapsing sports people? Or are we just noticing them all? Is there any data that suggests an increase over baseline?

There’s a long list of players collapsing ill on the pitch and dying in many cases saldly and at all levels. Marc Vivien Foe at the age of 28 being one of the most high profile, Fabrice Muamba only survived by pure luck as a leading heart specialist happened to be in the crowd and the game was just around the corner from the UK’s leading heart treatment hospital. I remember Hinckley United having a player die on the pitch some years ago, don’t recall his name but do recall he was an ex pro who’d played to a good level earlier in his career. It happens sadly, not just in pro football and long before anyone received a Covid jab.

skybluetony176 · Nov 26, 2021

wingy said:
Anecdotal but I do know of one case of an extremely fit fanatical youngish woman 30's who unfortunately died after the vaccine, while maintaining her routine.

Equally I know someone who unexpectedly had a heart attack last year and it turned out he had Covid and it almost certainly triggered the heart attack, the only other symptom he produced was a loss of taste and smell the following day after the heart attack and only became aware he had it in the first place when he was tested on admittance to hospital.

PVA · Nov 26, 2021

The new variant has been detected in Belgium. So presumably it'll be fucking everywhere by now or in the very near future.

Hopefully it's not as bad as some are saying.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Nov 26, 2021

Christmas lockdown here we come...

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