Without going all global agenda on the thread, Cummings is not the one pulling the strings. He’s going to be the fall-guy at some point.Let's not make it all about Cummings eh? It's about the whole lot of them. The TPA crowd and the Tories and the very wealthy people they're agents for. Get the fucking lot of them.
When the sun warms the sky,Lovely clip on Sky News this morning with Italian delivery drivers loading their (UPS) vans while singing inspirational songs.
They’re sending medical assistance, they’re not going to be enforcing a lockdown ffs.
Not even the Italian army is out patrolling the streets. There are some military checkpoints near motorways though.
These are the people who voted for Cummings to effectively run the country, what do you expect?
Unbelievable.
So 'the science changed' was absolute bollocks then, as, many on here said.
They got it wrong. They fucked up. They've cost lives. Utterly disgraceful, yet still people defend them and their initial response.
Yep called that a couple of days agoOne of the more depressing things about this is that when it’s over, the fact that our own government effectively killed its own citizens & endangered thousands more will be completely brushed under the carpet, and the same pricks will herald Boris Johnson as having done a sterling job.
They saw other countries, they had all the info, they had the chance to be proactive, but they chose to conduct an experiment flying in the face of all medical sense, common sense and overruled the people who knew what we were going to be dealing with. They are undeniably a set of incompetent, dangerous idiots. But some people will still say they did a good job.
edit: and I see this morning that Johnson is already trying to shift blame onto the public for ‘not following advice’, the mind boggles at just how inept & ill equipped this man is to be tasked with doing what’s best for the population as opposed to what’s best for himself.
If one were to take the phrase 'the science changed', then regardess of context, it is just a dumb statement because science by definition does not 'change' (although we may discover more of it). Whereas something such as 'the modelling changed' would have been accurate as predictions are not always correct. Just shows how ignorant the Boris brigade is - clearly devoid of any scientific understanding.
People have no sense though, just been to Tesco’s early opening for NHS and Tesco staff. People going with their entire families, kids included, and millennials standing chatting in the aisles. No evidence of people stock piling - but huge queues for checkouts from about 09:30 because of Sunday trading laws.
That's the problem when people are stubborn - they will come up will all sorts of ways to justify thinking with their feetlooking at it from the other point of view, one of the most positive things about this is that the people who not more than 7 days ago were saying “the experts know what they’re talking about”, “herd immunity is the way to go” etc must surely now have had their eyes well and truly opened.
People have no sense though, just been to Tesco’s early opening for NHS and Tesco staff. People going with their entire families, kids included, and millennials standing chatting in the aisles. No evidence of people stock piling - but huge queues for checkouts from about 09:30 because of Sunday trading laws.
To be fair, there was logic behind that. As mentioned last week...no one has been in this situation before.looking at it from the other point of view, one of the most positive things about this is that the people who not more than 7 days ago were saying “the experts know what they’re talking about”, “herd immunity is the way to go” etc must surely now have had their eyes well and truly opened.
It needs a popular UK celebrity to catch CV and die before the point is rammed home to the vast majority of our population.And they’re complete dickheads too. When their family start ending up on ventilators & stuck in corridors because there are no hospital beds, maybe then they’ll take notice.
In fact fuck it, everyone is a dickhead.. this lockdown is starting to get to me
To be fair, there was logic behind that. As mentioned last week...no one has been in this situation before.
Yes, theres other countries that are weeks ahead of us but theres factors which can make a difference - demographics, hospital provisions etc.
I've certainly changed the way I think of it in the past 7 days.
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The West has totally dropped the ball on this. China and Russian will see it as an opportunity to step into their place and act like global leaders. All because we decided normal politicians are “boring”. Hope you’re entertained now!
It needs a popular UK celebrity to catch CV and die before the point is rammed home to the vast majority of our population.
Good. Luck, Hill. Hope you are fully back with us soon.Massively perked up again today. Hope this is the beginning of the end of it.
looking at it from the other point of view, one of the most positive things about this is that the people who not more than 7 days ago were saying “the experts know what they’re talking about”, “herd immunity is the way to go” etc must surely now have had their eyes well and truly opened.
Don't be daft, these are the most stubborn and ignorant of people.
Grendel and Co will still be defending it.
I nominate Piers Morgan. Oh hold in, you said popular.It needs a popular UK celebrity to catch CV and die before the point is rammed home to the vast majority of our population.
UK & US already have more deaths than when China, Spain, France & others locked down
UK is in real trouble here. On current trends, UK could hit Italy’s death count in ~9 days. Italy locked down 10 days ago. UK is already behind that schedule.
And it’s probably worse than that.
Italy locked down in stages. It closed schools 17 days ago. It locked down its worst-affected region 13 days ago.
So: UK is already on a steeper mortality curve than Italy, and has apparently learned no lessons so is locking down more slowly.
Other countries have been where UK, US and co are.
China instituted stringent lockdowns, many of which remain in place. Its case count has stopped rising.
Korea: enormous test, trace & quarantine strategy, which brought the spread under control.
UK? "keep calm and carry on"
I nominate Piers Morgan. Oh hold in, you said popular.
No you’re right, I wouldn’t wish actual death even on Piers. Was being facetious. Katie Hopkins?I’m not gonna wish anyone dead but the worst, most despicable celebrity I’ve seen is James Woods- he’s telling everyone to buy guns & be prepared to shoot to kill, among a barrage of other nasty stuff.
Democrat looters apparently. His Twitter feed makes Katie Hopkins’ look warm and cuddlyShoot what? Tiny little microorganisms in the air?
What lockdown ???And they’re complete dickheads too. When their family start ending up on ventilators & stuck in corridors because there are no hospital beds, maybe then they’ll take notice.
In fact fuck it, everyone is a dickhead.. this lockdown is starting to get to me
I’m not gonna wish anyone dead but the worst, most despicable celebrity I’ve seen is James Woods- he’s telling everyone to buy guns & be prepared to shoot to kill, among a barrage of other nasty stuff.
Still Don’t think that will come anywhere close like I’ve said nobody caresIt needs a popular UK celebrity to catch CV and die before the point is rammed home to the vast majority of our population.
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