The Italian government is a shambles at the best of times.That's a good point. If Pandemics are not unknown territories then the Italian and Spanish governments are just as incompetent as the British government.
Not as much bashing of them, from you though mate.
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Only another 20M population in Germany than the U.K. also so when you compare that figure to population it looks even worse.Why have we (6th biggest economy in the world), got a 5th of the ICU beds that Germany (4th biggest economy in world) got.
That hasn't just happened since corona but you keep doffing you cap.
The most recent poll had the Tories st the most popular they have ever been at 55% of the electorate
I think you also need to qualify it in terms of ICU beds/ventilators per head of population rather than raw numbers (but even then we still have a massive shortage in comparison)
The Italian government is a shambles at the best of times.
If the benchmark and comparison for the UK is now with the Italian government then that is a very sad state of affairs.
Greggs has a 70% approval rating. Must be the best food.
I pretty much did. It's 29 per 100, 000 Germany, 6 here hence a fifth (ish)
Fair enough. Sometimes difficult to know if someone is talking raw numbers or not.
And people were still arriving into the UK from places like New York last week. The virus was not only in Italy and countries would have had to have closed down their border completely to all countries in reality rather than just Italy.It isn’t but you have to evaluate success or failure against other countries in Europe as it’s the benchmark. The UK government and really the whole of Europe should have banned travel to and from Italy much much earlier but if you are honest with yourself you would have been outraged at this move. People were moving across borders until Mid March
I'm not sure how you can be so angry when its not even half time in this yet. You have no idea whether we have made the right or wrong decisions yet, its far too early to tell, nobody can be 100% sure. We got this disease at roughly the same time as those around us and as far as i can tell are not coping any worst than others. Could we have gone into lock down earlier, maybe, will Italy lock down earlier come back to be a bad idea, maybe... everyone has had to make decisions and to be honest its hardly a competition is it! Pretty sure they weren't sat on their arses thinking, we wont do anything today, only a few extra thousand will die...No but I would have expected them to actually take learnings from other European countries on their doorstep rather than go ahead with a strategy that drew worldwide criticism.
A pandemic is not unknown territory for a government either, proper resources and planning should be in place in preparation for one.
The vegan sausage rolls are good. Dirty Mexican virus free also.Greggs has a 70% approval rating. Must be the best food.
Just read infection rates have slowed
And people were still arriving into the UK from places like New York last week. The virus was not only in Italy and countries would have had to have closed down their border completely to all countries in reality rather than just Italy.
But...I do think that the Chinese reporting of numbers has had a major impact on this as it led to underestimating the virus in Europe as the true extent of it wasn't and still hasn't been shown.
And people were still arriving into the UK from places like New York last week. The virus was not only in Italy and countries would have had to have closed down their border completely to all countries in reality rather than just Italy.
Italy was one of the first European countries to ban flights on from China at the end of January and it didn't work.
But...I do think that the Chinese reporting of numbers has had a major impact on this as it led to underestimating the virus in Europe as the true extent of it wasn't and still hasn't been shown.
If we're short of unspecified reagents I can get back in the lab and crank some out. Been a few years but I still know my Schlenk line from my rotary evaporator
The vegan sausage rolls are good. Dirty Mexican virus free also.
I'm sure, and I certainly hope, we've redressed that disparity in the last few days and weeks.
lolYou have missed some crackers today, apparently the Russian Military are descending upon Italy to control the streets, and those dastardly Chinese managed to infect a city hundreds of miles away. And from what I can ascertain its all the Labour Party's fault.
I can't take all these revelations, I'm off out on the bike
And people were still arriving into the UK from places like New York last week. The virus was not only in Italy and countries would have had to have closed down their border completely to all countries in reality rather than just Italy.
Italy was one of the first European countries to ban flights on from China at the end of January and it didn't work.
But...I do think that the Chinese reporting of numbers has had a major impact on this as it led to underestimating the virus in Europe as the true extent of it wasn't and still hasn't been shown.
No way I'm.out now lol. Its Netflix time.@The coventrian & @Grendel on the same thread I’m expecting an exciting night on here with the clash of styles
lolYou have missed some crackers today, apparently the Russian Military are descending upon Italy to control the streets, and those dastardly Chinese managed to infect a city hundreds of miles away. And from what I can ascertain its all the Labour Party's fault.
I can't take all these revelations, I'm off out on the bike
It took me about 2 hours to mark 7 pieces of work because students uploaded things in the wrong format or sent the equivalent of a photo album. Then I got told off by higher ups for setting homework. So I have had a fun day.
I’ve ran out of stuff to watch on there mate ended up watching tiger king last night lolNo way I'm.out now lol. Its Netflix time.
Compared to others in its field it clearly is
It wasn't up until last week- there were multiple flights into Heathrow today. THere were over 25 from New York into London over the weekend.
In that case then you’d have ended up sealing off most countries for 12 months to protect themselves.the travel from New York is uk citizens and Us embassy staff returning - that’s it
The trends in Italy from the outset were bad. Spain less so but you know full well if Italy was sealed off for 12 months from mid February this would have been controlled a lot better and you also are aware that any government proposing it would have attracted enormous criticism - that one action would have bought more benefits than anything else but I doubt will appear in any public enquiry
The last few pages have made me smile, the same people who are saying how poor our response is, were the same who called me racist for saying we should close our borders.
I take back everything I ever said about you being stuck up.
Loads from Air Lingus?
May I ask... what was the topic you were marking?
Anything is better than the garbage terrestrial tv have to offer!I’ve ran out of stuff to watch on there mate ended up watching tiger king last night lol
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