SkyBlueDom26
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Nah I’m just happy that businesses can start to reopen and people who haven’t seen family or friends in 11 weeks can now do that also? Are you happy for them?
Nah I’m just happy that businesses can start to reopen and people who haven’t seen family or friends in 11 weeks can now do that also? Are you happy for them?You going back today then .:emoji_zzz:
Of course you’d be disappointed people can safely actually see family and friends after 11 weeks of lockdownOh dom
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Imagine what we had then!The French reckon they had patient zero on Dec 27 th and even mid November from a study of X-ray samples .
Of course you’d be disappointed people can safely actually see family and friends after 11 weeks of lockdown
What angle? He moans every time the lockdown gets eased, I think it’s nice that we can meet up with our friends and family againStill on that angle?
I’m more disappointed that people will never be able to see some of their friends and family again due to the government totally incompetent handling of this pandemic. At least some people can now go have a piss up in the park with their mates though, not like we’re still recording higher daily numbers than anyone else in Europe or anything like that.Of course you’d be disappointed people can safely actually see family and friends after 11 weeks of lockdown
I'd like to see some data .Imagine what we had then!
It's all pretty likely to be restrospectively imposing something that fits however. Symptoms such as for this virus aren't uncommon in other things, after all.I'd like to see some data .
The suggestion is there and requires serious investigation .
For instance me and 5-6 colleagues worked in Paris late June and went down with something like this on our return .
The symptoms and effect on the age groups and ethnicity fit this profile .
Great news that the lockdown is being safely eased today! Got a feeling things are going to get a lot better this month
Ridiculous isn't it. Thing is, they could have shoved all this stuff in level 3 (they made the scales themselves!) and nobody would have batted an eyelid.If we're transitioning from level 4 to 3 (which looking at the numbers I'm not sure we are), then why are we lifting restrictions which weren't supposed to be lifted until we reached level 1?
Yes, highly likely NW .It's all pretty likely to be restrospectively imposing something that fits however. Symptoms such as for this virus aren't uncommon in other things, after all.
Have to say, it all seems highly likely to be wishful thinking to me. Imagine a virus that spreads so fast, and causes so many deaths in relatively benign months... the carnage it would have caused in November and December if allowed to spread unchecked.Yes, highly likely NW .
It's this theory that we're on the second phase that raised the question for me .
We we're all fatigued after manic months of overtime and flying around .
Probably immune system down and bug's In aircraft Aircon .
Have to say, it all seems highly likely to be wishful thinking to me. Imagine a virus that spreads so fast, and causes so many deaths in relatively benign months... the carnage it would have caused in November and December if allowed to spread unchecked.
Of course you’d be disappointed people can safely actually see family and friends after 11 weeks of lockdown
Yeah I've seen the same stuff shmmee put up. In terms of deaths, we were actually doing pretty well compared to previous years, then there's a sudden spike.I've been trying to find data on flu and pneumonia cases either side of Christmas
I think @shmmeee posted some which suggested there had been no spike but when I've searched I've found a couple of articles that said there had been. The articles were in tabloids though and didn't contain any data.
There is an much anecdotal evidence like @wingy has posted but if it is true it must be backed up by figures somewhere.
I've been trying to find data on flu and pneumonia cases either side of Christmas
I think @shmmeee posted some which suggested there had been no spike but when I've searched I've found a couple of articles that said there had been. The articles were in tabloids though and didn't contain any data.
There is so much anecdotal evidence like @wingy has posted but if it is true it must be backed up by figures somewhere.
Yeah I've seen the same stuff shmmee put up. In terms of deaths, we were actually doing pretty well compared to previous years, then there's a sudden spike.
Anecdotal evidence is easy to fit when looking backwards. My favourite story is the Russian soldiers that people saw during WW1. Here's how Ronald Hutton explains it!
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I won't be seeing my parents who in their 70s, it's over 3 months now but I am not putting them at risk.Nah I’m just happy that businesses can start to reopen and people who haven’t seen family or friends in 11 weeks can now do that also? Are you happy for them?
My sister had a fungal pneumonia, the consultant at Walsgrave said they'd had a few cases of it (early January)My wife knows a family where 3 members ended up in hospital over Christmas with an illness that gave them respitory issues and they ended up on oxygen.
I just can't get my head round what that was if it wasn't covid.
Thing is, it does happen though, life is full of risks after all, and we could all drop down dead this very second from something completely different to coronavirus.My wife knows a family where 3 members ended up in hospital over Christmas with an illness that gave them respitory issues and they ended up on oxygen.
I just can't get my head round what that was if it wasn't covid.
Is it possible it was a form of coronavirus that wasn't quite as lethal as Covid-19 but then mutated to be more deadly?
Well let's hope so in this particular instance!!Not a virologist but don’t they usually mutate to be less lethal so their hosts stick around and infect more people?
Well let's hope so in this particular instance!!
The failure to initiate a proper lockdown first time round for fear of unpopularity and economic damage was a compromise that will end up costing us even more, in terms of lives and money.
Not a virologist but don’t they usually mutate to be less lethal so their hosts stick around and infect more people?
Genuine question then, is it worth the entire effort to find a vaccine, if the probability is it blows itself out about as quickly as properly testing the vaccine will take?That's why I asked if it was possible, because they tend to become less rather than more deadly after initial transmission across species because weaker forms of it get passed around more because the host lives and contacts more people so that version spreads more.
Well the government couldn’t take that risk could they, imagine the outrage if we weren't investing billions to get oneGenuine question then, is it worth the entire effort to find a vaccine, if the probability is it blows itself out about as quickly as properly testing the vaccine will take?
Why not, if that was what the science said?Well the government couldn’t take that risk could they, imagine the outrage if we weren't investing billions to get one
Yes it wasn’t as strict as spain or Italy but it was still a proper lockdown, we were allowed to do one form of exercise for weeks and weeks.... stop going on like we all could still go out and mix
Why not, if that was what the science said?
They seem quite happy to release us back into the wild anyway, and that's at odds with what you're saying here. What you're actually flagging up is a disconnect between perceptions, actions, and realities.
But they have reopened most things now and haven’t had a second spike at all, I don’t understand why most are convinced it’s going to happen here when it’s likely it wontThose slight differences allow the virus to get out and spread. You'd be amazed how even that small amount can increase the chances of transmission. Look at the rates in places like Italy and Spain compared to us - we're still a lot higher because we had these minor differences that kept the R rate that little bit higher.
But... it's flying in the face of their own science or rather, their own presented science.Hardly releasing us back into the wild is it, it’s slow and safe measures to get the country moving again
Yes it wasn’t as strict as spain or Italy but it was still a proper lockdown, we were allowed to do one form of exercise for weeks and weeks.... stop going on like we all could still go out and mix
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