Saddlebrains
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Its nailed on to have been here earlier. Adamant the second wave was what we experienced in March April. More and more things pointing to this
coincidentally after what we were discussing earlier, this has jut popped up on my timeline:
Could Covid-19 have reached the UK earlier than thought?
Its nailed on to have been here earlier. Adamant the second wave was what we experienced in March April. More and more things pointing to this
Dr Zangrillo, the long-time physician of former premier Silvio Berlusconi, said some experts were too alarmist about the prospect of a second wave of coronavirus infections and suggested that politicians needed to take into account the new reality.
Even the epidemiologist Pierluigi Lopalco, Emiliano's consultant in Puglia, thinks so. "If we have fewer cases and with few or non-existent symptoms, it is not because the virus has changed but for a purely epidemilogical fact. With the distancing and the masks, even those who came into contact with positive people have assimilated a smaller quantity of viruses, so the antibodies have neutralized it or if there has been an infection, it has not had the tragic consequences of the past months ».
I don't think the article points to the pre Christmas cases being the first wave the way I read it.
Like you I've thought the virus was here pre Christmas, but couldn't understand why, if we weren't recognising cases as Covid, wasn't there a spike in cases of other illnesses, flu, pneumonia etc.
The article gives the explanation that there simply weren't enough cases for it to transmit at the rates it started to this year from March onward.
It sounds like a reasonable explanation to me but also suggests to me that pre Christmas was just the start of what transpired from February/March.
Not sure about that, I hear plenty of people (not you) arguing that COVID doesn't exist because they don't know anybody who has had it. Yet on the other hand, people are attempting to argue it was here earlier.
It doesn't even say there *were* any.I don't think the article points to the pre Christmas cases being the first wave the way I read it.
There’s two things here:
- When precisely did the first case arrive in the U.K.?
- What is the shape and time scale of the first major outbreak here?
People are conflating the first with the second to give credence to their conspiracy theories.
A small outbreak a week or two before what we previously thought was the first case does not mean it’s been ripping through the population for months and it’s all overblown.
Did the Chinese start this? Yes or no?
The Chinese are guilty of mass murder. What is it about criticism of another country you hate? Weird as fuck.
So we’ve got Wave 3 to look forward to in the next few weeks....Its nailed on to have been here earlier. Adamant the second wave was what we experienced in March April. More and more things pointing to this
You need to lay off the click-bait. This is straight out of the Trump appreciation Facebook page.
Is it because the Chinese are raging lefties?
That Spain country that still seems it too dangerous to open schools....Cases very low again 1500, deaths 111 lowest since lockdown began! Also great news that Spain hasn’t recorded a single death in the last 24 hours
Cases very low again 1500, deaths 111 lowest since lockdown began! Also great news that Spain hasn’t recorded a single death in the last 24 hours
What relevance has that got to do with the point made? We aren’t sending every single school backThat Spain country that still seems it too dangerous to open schools....
Yes I fucking know it’s weekend lag on the deaths, but it’s good news cases are coming right down? There is no lag with the casesfucking hell Dom, weekend lag! Though I think it may be less than the last couple of Mondays (or Tuesdays for Bank holiday weekends).
Weird geeza
Clueless imbecileWeird geeza
No, it was legislated it wasn't guidelines. I was responding to the specific point about exercise.
Yes I fucking know it’s weekend lag on the deaths, but it’s good news cases are coming right down? There is no lag with the cases
With the Lag you need to look at the Monday trends to see
They have 0 deaths and still think the risk is too great. There’s little point in quoting success for another country when our country pales into comparison and you then don’t get the scrutiny...What relevance has that got to do with the point made? We aren’t sending every single school back
And pearl clutching if the country is ever criticised while calling everyone else a snowflake
No you are not, we need to slow down until we have at least got the community transmissions down.it is good but its coming down to slowly for me but maybe i'm just been unreasonable.
I just want to get out of lockdown and more importantly, i want to stay out of it.
Yes I fucking know it’s weekend lag on the deaths, but it’s good news cases are coming right down? There is no lag with the cases
With the Lag you need to look at the Monday trends to see
To be fair that is the lowest Monday death toll I can remember. Let's get a week below 100 before relaxing things further.
They have 0 deaths and still think the risk is too great. There’s little point in quoting success for another country when our country pales into comparison and you then don’t get the scrutiny...
That Spain country that still seems it too dangerous to open schools....
SpIn started this easing of lockdown 5 weeks ago. Most of us are in phase 3 (starting today) schools reopening are part of phase 4 (due in 2 weeks time & only if certain criteria is met). All our phases are opening things little by little.
Madrid and Barcelona have finally entered phase 1 today, their infection figures finally meet the criteria.
A lot of people think we have done some things too early, but unlike the UK government in Spain is a co-alition and opposition parties want things opening quicker. We are waiting to have our lockdown extended by law (officially ends 7th June, has been extended by 2 weeks every Wednesday before the earlier deadlines), but opposition parties are opposing this. The lockdown needs extending in law, to allow the easing to take place otherwise no lockdown and everything is back 'to normal' with immediate effect.
Yes that’s right - but when they were over 100 deaths a day they didn’t decide to open up their schools did they??They close in mid June anyway don’t they?
SpIn started this easing of lockdown 5 weeks ago. Most of us are in phase 3 (starting today) schools reopening are part of phase 4 (due in 2 weeks time & only if certain criteria is met). All our phases are opening things little by little.
Madrid and Barcelona have finally entered phase 1 today, their infection figures finally meet the criteria.
A lot of people think we have done some things too early, but unlike the UK government in Spain is a co-alition and opposition parties want things opening quicker. We are waiting to have our lockdown extended by law (officially ends 7th June, has been extended by 2 weeks every Wednesday before the earlier deadlines), but opposition parties are opposing this. The lockdown needs extending in law, to allow the easing to take place otherwise no lockdown and everything is back 'to normal' with immediate effect.
what's going on here? Is this correct and if so when are these other deaths from?
My apology from above. Not having kids at school anymore.
My wife just informed me we are in our final phase today, schools can go back today, however they breakup in 2 weeks time for summer holidays. Schools are reopening for administration purposes, to allow children and parents to go into school and sort out all their paper of administration for the next school year. The internet here is not set up the same as the UK and most paperwork can only be done face to face.
Very frustrating.
I have been told today that we are to carry out socially distanced practical work with Y10 and 12 in a few weeks time. Of course, the technicians are on furlough and we will also have to remotely cater for the younger ones during the day. It will be about 10 students at a time
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