I think there’s two things here. Doms right that starting manufacturing ahead of time is probably a good idea *if that vaccine is showing promise*. Others are right that we have to be careful to pick a winner because of the cost. I’m not sure any of us aside maybe BSB know enough to know if this vaccine shows the right amount of promise in comparison to the 150 others.
But I don’t get how combining the stages to try and end a world pandemic as early as possible could be bad in any way? Like it has to be pushed quicker than anything else
Well there is no reason why it can’t be sped up if say double the amount of people are safety checking itBecause stage 3 is a safety check. Think of it as the peer review stage where trials are carried out by 3rd parties a
Fuck me it's like you're a love island contestant after a stroke
Well there is no reason why it can’t be sped up if say double the amount of people are safety checking it
I think you’re referring to ‘Ex On The Beach’
What if there’s a horrible side effect and it wasn’t picked up because we rushed it and this side effect takes lives on a mass scale? Worse death rate than Covid 19? We only find this out after it’s been rolled out worldwide and a couple of years down the line? They have to make sure the cure isn’t more dangerous than the illness, you don’t cut of your head to cure a headache.But I don’t get how combining the stages to try and end a world pandemic as early as possible could be bad in any way? Like it has to be pushed quicker than anything else
Fucking hell David we actually agree on somethingIs that the one that had Ashley Cain on it?
Fuck he was an awful footballer
But we aren’t in a position to wait years for that? We can’t have lockdowns every 6 months for 2/3 yearsWhat if there’s a horrible side effect and it wasn’t picked up because we rushed it and this side effect takes life’s on a mass scale? Worse death rate than Covid 19? We only find this out after it’s been rolled out worldwide and a couple of years down the line? They have to make sure the cure isn’t more dangerous than the illness, you don’t cut of your head to cure a headache.
Fucking hell David we actually agree on something
But we aren’t in a position to wait years for that? We can’t have lockdowns every 6 months for 2/3 years
But we aren’t in a position to wait years for that? We can’t have lockdowns every 6 months for 2/3 years
Even phase 3 isn’t a guarantee List of withdrawn drugs - Wikipedia this isn’t even the full list of drugs that passed phase 3. Yes some were withdrawn for commercial reasons but the vast vast majority were withdrawn for medical reasons that only become apparent from studying the effects when in general use. Liver and kidney damage seem to be the common theme. Not sure what happens if the whole world is waiting on a liver transplant.No
Because Stage 3 checks the data produced in stage 2.
This is basic science and common sense. You can not properly check the results of stage 2 if you are checking it before stage 2 has finished. 1
It's potentially only an extra couple of months. problem with clinical trial is the original trial can just be wrond and no one will know why and will only be able to say they couldn't repeat the results of the original trial.
If you are going to inject millions of people with a live version of the pathogen it really is best practice
You need to get your head around this Dom. We may not have a choice. You really should prepare yourself mentally for that possibility, it will make life a lot easier for you if you do. If we find a miracle cure then great but history doesn’t favour that. You’re setting yourself up for a potential fall here with your faith.But we aren’t in a position to wait years for that? We can’t have lockdowns every 6 months for 2/3 years
There is no way the country would survive multiple lockdowns it just isn’t PossibleYou need to get your head around this Dom. We may not have a choice. You really should prepare yourself mentally for that possibility, it will make life a lot easier for you if you do. If we find a miracle cure then great but history doesn’t favour that. You’re setting yourself up for a potential fall here with your faith.
Oh what and wait years and years? One of the stupidest comments I’ve ever seen, we need to end this and fast so it doesn’t keep coming back
Instead of trying to push it quicker than other treatments we’ll just wait years and years like you want and then we’ll see how bad things really are....Fancy wanting to sure a drug that will in all likelihood will be taken by a large proportion of the population is safe before using it. What's he like?!
There is no way the country would survive multiple lockdowns it just isn’t Possible
There is no way the country would survive multiple lockdowns it just isn’t Possible
There is no way the country would survive multiple lockdowns it just isn’t Possible
Instead of trying to push it quicker than other treatments we’ll just wait years and years like you want and then we’ll see how bad things really are....
I’m the most optimistic people you’d meet but being in multiple lockdowns just wouldn’t work, imagine how crippled the country will be financially for instance....it’s already badWhat happened to the Blitz spirit?
The question that needs to be asked is "What is worse, an extra couple of months of restrictions or potentially releasing a vaccine that is flawed and will lead to a bigger spike of cases as people will think they are protected when they are not?"
Yeah but people on this thread aren’t saying a few months they are saying ‘years’The question that needs to be asked is "What is worse, an extra couple of months of restrictions or potentially releasing a vaccine that is flawed and will lead to a bigger spike of cases as people will think they are protected when they are not?"
Fancy wanting to sure a drug that will in all likelihood will be taken by a large proportion of the population is safe before using it. What's he like?!
Yeah but can I hit the boozer soon?
Albany pub 4th july
Roof terrace
I’m the most optimistic people you’d meet but being in multiple lockdowns just wouldn’t work, imagine how crippled the country will be financially for instance....it’s already bad
Of course it’s possible. It’s not favourable but it’s certainly possible.There is no way the country would survive multiple lockdowns it just isn’t Possible
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