Please make it Mish Schcarlet in the schtudy with the candleschtick
Wife’s a nurse at uhcw , she told me she feels helpless . Colleagues of hers crying , feeling useless and knowing this hasn’t even peaked yet . Tougher times ahead
Dare I say it... the Sunderland forum is doing well on this subject as well. If there is one thing to have come out of this it’s that fans are reaching out to fellow fans.
My sisters experience too. Terribly sadWife’s a nurse at uhcw , she told me she feels helpless . Colleagues of hers crying , feeling useless and knowing this hasn’t even peaked yet . Tougher times ahead
In Intensive Care.Boris’ health seem to have gone downhill pretty quickly... that’s not good.
Hopefully this won't be an issue but if it is Raab is designated survivor so assume he would take temporary charge until a leadership contest could be held.Does he have a deputy to take over or does there have to be an election?
In Intensive Care.
Looks very bad.
Hope he will pull through but what happens if he dies?
Does he have a deputy to take over or does there have to be an election?
In Intensive Care.
Looks very bad.
Hope he will pull through but what happens if he dies?
Does he have a deputy to take over or does there have to be an election?
Initially Raab as stand in (is not PM) but if Boris dies the cabinet need to elect immediate leader (as temporary PM) and get assent from the Queen. Only after that would the Tory party hold its leadership election.
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I always get the impression that he could kick off at a journalist any second.Raab in charge is a frightening prospect. Not only a horrible fucker but a cretin as well. Dangerous combination.
I always get the impression that he could kick off at a journalist any second.
Absolutely spot-on, Otis! SBT post of the year so far.Been thinking about this whole Coronavirus situation.
Correct me if I am wrong, but.....
Aren't we just putting off the inevitable? The virus is still going to be there when we get out and go back to work and places all open up again for business.
I know it has already been said in terms of protecting the NHS so it doesn't get completely overwhelmed. I get all that, but isn't the 'stay safe' just a 'stay safe for now?'
Seems to me is a vaccine or bust and the vaccine is some way off yet.
It's all well and good talking about peaks, but isn't it all just going to spike again when the country gets back to 'normal.'
Could it be we are indeed going to get herd immunity, but just not by design. Just by the simple fact the country will grind completely to a halt if we are to just stay indoors endlessly.
A vaccine is the only hope isn't it? The virus isn't just going to go away and die if we stay indoors and practice social distancing for a fee weeks or months.
It would appear from what is known about acquired immunity to other types of coronavirus (four of them cause about 15% of common colds between them) that the immunity is often short-lived (6 to 12 months as a best guess), whereas chickenpox for the vast majority of people confers life-long immunity (though the same virus lies dormant in nerve endings, and can become reactivated to cause repeated bouts of shingles, particularly in later life) - my ex-wife was one of the exceptions, who had multiple chickenpox infections into adulthood.Could it be like chicken pox in the end which can be a bit dodgy later in life - or you need to get it to build the immunity within the body - it’s close to us my neighbour has had symptoms but has really locked down to avoid spreading it
Been thinking about this whole Coronavirus situation.
Correct me if I am wrong, but.....
Aren't we just putting off the inevitable? The virus is still going to be there when we get out and go back to work and places all open up again for business.
I know it has already been said in terms of protecting the NHS so it doesn't get completely overwhelmed. I get all that, but isn't the 'stay safe' just a 'stay safe for now?'
Seems to me is a vaccine or bust and the vaccine is some way off yet.
It's all well and good talking about peaks, but isn't it all just going to spike again when the country gets back to 'normal.'
Could it be we are indeed going to get herd immunity, but just not by design. Just by the simple fact the country will grind completely to a halt if we are to just stay indoors endlessly.
A vaccine is the only hope isn't it? The virus isn't just going to go away and die if we stay indoors and practice social distancing for a fee weeks or months.
Vaccines for flu viruses seldom work. Even with normal flu, by the time the immunologists come up with a vaccine, it's already mutated and the jab does very little to prevent catching the new strain. Seems that these strains are getting more virulent and this could become a regular thing for the world to face up to.
Vaccines for flu viruses seldom work. Even with normal flu, by the time the immunologists come up with a vaccine, it's already mutated and the jab does very little to prevent catching the new strain. Seems that these strains are getting more virulent and this could become a regular thing for the world to face up to.
Won't there always be a host though? We are never, ever going to get all countries, all on 100% lockdown.It is a virus though... and it can’t live indefinitely without a host. So surely any approach has to be try and track the virus, how it is moving between people (which would involve mass testing) and that might give more time for the antibody test to be developed.
You may ultimately be right, but we never really got a grip of where, when and how it got here. There needs to be some effort to get a picture of where it is and how it is moving.
It might sound selfish but I would mind it raining for the next week or so to stop these cockwombles going to and congregating in parks
It would appear from what is known about acquired immunity to other types of coronavirus (four of them cause about 15% of common colds between them) that the immunity is often short-lived (6 to 12 months as a best guess), whereas chickenpox for the vast majority of people confers life-long immunity (though the same virus lies dormant in nerve endings, and can become reactivated to cause repeated bouts of shingles, particularly in later life) - my ex-wife was one of the exceptions, who had multiple chickenpox infections into adulthood.
I'm not sure why the immune system behaves differently towards something like Coronaviruses than it does to the pox viruses - it MAY be that the coronavirus family mutate at a higher rate than other pathogens in a way that evades the immune response, and that may be why it is so good at crossing the species divide.
But MrsOSB and i were saying weeks ago that we should treat it like people do with chickenpox and have a huge gathering so everyone who is at low risk of complications gets it, gets immune, gets over it, gets on with life. I think that is maybe what they were originally suggesting with the herd immunity theory, but it seems now as though more people might be more at risk than they originally thought.
I would love to have a crystal ball and be able to look back from 12 months hence, when we have data on how many people had the virus in any form, and how many people dies, as that is the ONLY accurate way to identify the case fatality rate. It only looks high at the moment because we are only counting deaths not population cases.
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