Why would Les ask those questions it goes against all he stands for????
So now you and Dongo think a new stadium is going to be built?
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Now, lets not be unreasonable! It's been great so far, the best entertainment of this crappy sporting winter-and as I type, Scotland might even win a game...
Reeves and Martin ...
Nah - I'd better not go there.
But Wasps produced a loss of £4m last year. It seems more and more certain that their marriage with ACL will end in disaster.
The new bit is the fact that the leader of the council has been caught in an obvious contradiction regarding where the £14.4m bail-out came from, and when asked to clarify this week has hidden behind 'legal proceedings'.
The "tinfoil hat" and "smoking gun" thing makes me laugh - this coming from people so lazy and set in their opinions that they haven't even troubled themselves to read the article before criticising it.
What I don't get is that all of the people outraged against bias didn't seem too fussed when it came out about the cet making a deal with ccc to withhold information from articles?
Only if it can make sisu look bad, same as Childrens charities.I was under the impression that Coventry Tax payers money and how it was spent(particularly not to be used to prop up a sports team's hedge-fund owners) was massively important on here.
Must have got that wrong then.
Its amazing, the article points out something that is actually incorrect and needs accounting for, and because its written by Reid its either discredited or people say move on. What a joke.
Whilst SISU have destroyed our club, it has also clouded peoples judgements into the murky dealings of others who are connected to our current sad state, and lucas is proving to be one great public sector joke.
So now you and Dongo think a new stadium is going to be built?
I see the article as nothing but click baitAnd as I read it I thought it was just an article I had read before.
Yes it would be nice to have the answer. But some are trying to make out that it is such an important question. But there are questions that are much more important. And it is all to do with the future of our football club. So they won't be asked by Les Reid. Just the usual point scoring. No fooking use to anyone but SISU is he.
If anyone is going to complain and moan about tax payers money used on the arena why don't they moan and complain about the 10m of Coventry tax payers money used towards the build costs? Or the major amount of millions used that was tax payers money through grants. But no. It can't be used against CCC or Europe so no need for questions. But the rest of it can be used to have a go at CCC and take some heat off SISU, so lets all have a w@nk over a rehashed article by Les Reid.
So Les Reid.....how about asking where and when our new stadium is going to happen. Have some balls instead of being a lapdog. Even you can't pretend what is the most important thing to find out.
CCC and ACL can no longer influence current CCFC matters. If SISU can do not drop this ruinous path they are stumbling down and work with the people who matter currently the club will die.
I am sure even if the club was folded a few on here would be happy talking about the sub text of a Les Reid article, personally I would prefer a football team to discuss.
It is stated that it is the only way forward for the club. If that is the case I do not know why
CWR
CET
Les Reid
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Are not asking these questions. Even if you do not believe the club you must ask these simple questions.
How much debt would it saddle CCFC with?
How much interest will we paying on the debt?
Investigative journalists should be ascertaining how many suitable sites are there that fit the stated criteria. Then approach the owners of such sites. See if they would even consider offers.
Then dig in to the alternative ie cosying up to Wasps and compare it to 'the only way forward'
Also investigative journalists should be hunting down legal experts and getting their opinions on why it is still worth SISU pursuing the JR. What is the end game of the legal action. We all guess but we don't know for a fact.
Also investigative journalists should be contacting some of SISU's biggest investors. Get their opinion on how their investment has been spent over the last 7 years.
Instead it seems the CET sit back and wait for the Council or Higgs to feed them something. Whilst the Observer waits to be fed by the club
There may be more important questions - that doesn't mean this one shouldn't be asked.
And the question may not even be important for the club as it won't change the past, but I think it is important for the democracy and the way the local government is run.
Who are the serving and what are they protecting? That is very important to know.
You could get Jan to ask it?
Of course they can influence them, they are the landlord and the local council.
Yet more move on fingers in ears stuff.
We have a football team to discuss also, aren't you refusing to go and watch them based on politics yet moaning about people talking about politics?
There may be more important questions - that doesn't mean this one shouldn't be asked.
And the question may not even be important for the club as it won't change the past, but I think it is important for the democracy and the way the local government is run.
Who are the serving and what are they protecting? That is very important to know.
Of course they can influence them, they are the landlord and the local council.
Yet more move on fingers in ears stuff.
We have a football team to discuss also, aren't you refusing to go and watch them based on politics yet moaning about people talking about politics?
So as you apparently don't have your fingers in your ear's what are you expecting LR to uncover or an investigation that LR is pushing for to uncover?
With my fingers in my ears it just sounds like school yard shit stirring. Plenty of talk about having an investigation because apparently there's a secret at the end but absolutely no indication of what this terrible secret could possibly be. You would have thought that an investigative journalist would at least be offer a glimpse of why there should be an investigation other than they are being secretive. Plus are they being secretive or are they just following protocol. I find it hard to believe that the conservative party in an election year wouldn't be making something of this if there was something to make of this in an election year given that Coventry is a labour stronghold and let's not forget that there was Conservative councillors in the meeting to approve the ACL takeover so if there was a dressed up dossier or exaggeration of any sort they have the inside track.
It is fingers in ears if you see there being more important questions that Les Reid comes out with. And unbiased if you have a go at CET for asking most questions of SISU although Les Reid never asks questions of SISU.
Yes, there are more important things to answer but does it mean that Lucas's actions shouldn't be questioned? It really is quite amazing how you, Tony and others let her off the hook with a casual "yeah, but there's other stuff", "but what will it achieve", "yeah, but what about the JR", "but the judge said"....etc etc.
Not long ago you were all complaining about the taxpayer, a poor charity being ripped off, yet not a whimper when Wasps paid less and again not a whimper when AL won't tell us where the PUBLIC money came from and changes her story in every speech.
Yes, there are more important things to answer but does it mean that Lucas's actions shouldn't be questioned? It really is quite amazing how you, Tony and others let her off the hook with a casual "yeah, but there's other stuff", "but what will it achieve", "yeah, but what about the JR", "but the judge said"....etc etc.
Not long ago you were all complaining about the taxpayer, a poor charity being ripped off, yet not a whimper when Wasps paid less and again not a whimper when AL won't tell us where the PUBLIC money came from and changes her story in every speech.
The council executives in January, 2013, had said cash balances used for the loan would eventually be replenished by borrowing.In January this year, they confirmed that had still not happened, in stating: "The council loan to ACL was capital expenditure by the council, that will ultimately be funded by borrowing.
"The council has not yet needed to borrow to fund the loan because of its overall cash position."
A private report by council finance officer Barry Hastie on January 15, 2013 to councillors, recommending they approve the loan, stated cash balances would be used for the loan in the "initial years" before the council used its prudential borrowing powers.
So 2 years ago it was from reserves, 2 months ago, it was still reserves, but as the report stated, after the initial years (2 years for instance), it would switch to borrowing...
So, why can't it be simply that the initial years are up, and it was switched to borrowing in Feb?[/COLOR][/COLOR]
Another one trying to twist what I have said?
I said that I want to know the answers. But like I also said what about the 10m that CCC put in? It came from the same pot if it was CCC money.
And what is wrong with wanting answers about a new ground at the same time? I know that it doesn't come into what some want to ask before asking questions of CCC. But it is certainly more important.
That £10 million was paid back immediately to the council with the £21million paid for the lease.
Does all this really matter ?
Do you live in Coventry then ?Taxpayers money? Apparently not.
Do you live in Coventry then ?
That £10 million was paid back immediately to the council with the £21million paid for the lease.
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