Sick Boy
Super Moderator
It is connected to the club you tedious old goat. Trying to sweep it all under the carpet because you can't defend your precious council?
If you want to do it in the off topic section knock yourself out. Its probably smart to talk about things that are still connected to the club in the Coventry City General Chat section don't you think? Perhaps Nick could set you up an Ann Lucas sub forum?
It is connected to the club you tedious old goat. Trying to sweep it all under the carpet because you can't defend your precious council?
A) I haven't tried to defend the Council, it is what it is. Even AL has put her hand up.
B) Why don't you and the rest of the idiots who want to supress all talk of SISU form a group? You could call yourselves " We are SISU's personal suppressors. WASPS for short.
C) When is the fact that there is only now one party involved in the ongoing demise of CCFC going to hit you? When it's too late is my guess.
As CCFC fans our only focus from hereon in should be SISU.Anything else is letting our club down.
There is no supression of talk about sisu, only the paranoid anndroids like yourself actually believe it. There is certainly attempts at supressing any anti-council sentiment by council apologists such as yourself.
Both sisu and the coin cil have contributed to the demise of the club, how you cannot see it is mind boggling.
No? Then why do we get you and the rest of WASPS calling me boring when I talk about SISU? Why do you and the rest of WASPS divert any thread that talks about SISU's failings?
I can see it. But you may as well be talking about how selling Dion Dublin contributed to the clubs demise. It changes sweet FA. It's one parties show now. I suggest you come to terms with that and disband WASPS. Anything less is letting your club down.
My heritage isn't Anglo-Saxon mate.
Wasps are our landlords, so they have a lot to do with the club.
But you're not discussing club / landlord relationship and negotiations of what happens when the 2 + 2 year rental agreement runs out are you?
No offence but it's obvious that you are trying to divert attention away from the council and it's pathetic. Have you contacted Simon Gilbert to complain? Do you think that he shouldn't have bothered writing the article. Sisu and ccc's conduct in all of this is going to have ramifications for the club for decades.
It is connected to the club you tedious old goat. Trying to sweep it all under the carpet because you can't defend your precious council?
For fuck sake Sick Boy ain't you got some decorating to do ?No offence but it's obvious that you are trying to divert attention away from the council and it's pathetic. Have you contacted Simon Gilbert to complain? Do you think that he shouldn't have bothered writing the article. Sisu and ccc's conduct in all of this is going to have ramifications for the club for decades.
You mean SG and the CT who according to you and WASPS is a council mouth piece?
You can accuse me of what you like it don't change what's happened and its clearly easier for you to talk about than what happens next to the club and who's responsible for that. Good luck with that.
Sweep under the carpet? Ah, smoking gun time again. Thank goodness I can refer back to the findings of successive independent judges with regards where true blame lies
For fuck sake Sick Boy ain't you got some decorating to do ?
Sick Boy is right. If only CCC had given in to the demand for Average League One rent, which then led to the rent strike, and the move to Sixfields; we'd be okay. Oh, wait a minute....
It's interesting that Fisher gets pulled up on his bullshit yet many seem to excuse blatant lies by other parties.
The actions of sisu were pathetic but in no way does it make the council's actions acceptable.
Still, if the council had agreed to reduced the rent when Paul Fletcher was here then maybe we could have avoided all of this.
Well I bet you go to the MK Dons game at the Ricoh.
Well I've decided not to go there for that game to watch a Franchise team play at the Ricoh hope you all follow suit.
Again, the Judicial Review judge also stated that he saw no concerns with ACL as a going concern. In possession of exactly the same data Lucas had. So to an extent he agreed with her. Who has ever independently corroborated Fisher's claims?
Why bring up the JR? The materials discussed there was from a point in time when the club played there.
AL's statement was from when the club was gone. Two different 'de facto' scenarios.
But as the accounts show, ACL did not make a profit without the club, so it seems both AL and the judge got it wrong.
Who has ever independently corroborated Fisher's claims?
Although not independent, Anne Lucas seems to be corroborating some of them just at the moment.
Sorry Godiva, the JR judge's comments relate to the time of the CCC loan to ACL, doesn't it? And his comments relate to the financial health at that time and moving forwards. Think about it.
The loan was sanctioned in January 2013, right in the middle of the rent strike, amidst talk of the move to Walsall and other grounds. The judge would have had to take this into consideration with his thinking and projections. Have to
Should not Wasps now repay the loan in full to CCC, and arrange their own financing?
I believe that a large part of the judgment in the JR was that CCC were justified in giving the loan to ACL in order to protect their investment from a predatory hedge fund?
Now that CCC have nothing to do with ACL shouldn't all risk be on the owners of ACL, not local taxpayers?
I think sisu are terrible owners but I've never let it cloud my judgement to the extent that you seem to have let it.
Do you think it's acceptable that AL lied?
Do you not think she has in some way contributed to the bleak the future that the club finds itself in?
If Sisu had ended up with the Ricoh we would have seen the back of them a lot sooner. Now we are stuck with them for god known how long. Yet some seemed to rejoice that ccc sold the stadium to Wasps.
It's interesting that Fisher gets pulled up on his bullshit yet many seem to excuse blatant lies by other parties.
Should not Wasps now repay the loan in full to CCC, and arrange their own financing?
I believe that a large part of the judgment in the JR was that CCC were justified in giving the loan to ACL in order to protect their investment from a predatory hedge fund?
Now that CCC have nothing to do with ACL shouldn't all risk be on the owners of ACL, not local taxpayers?
You don't seem to have let this fact take part in your judgment so off course it hasn't clouded it.
Yes Ann Lucas got caught telling an untruth, yes that's wrong that she did it but yes she had the grace to put her hands up and admit that when the council mouth piece called her on it.
How the fuck would SISU have ended up with the Ricoh? They've had 7years to propose a deal like Wasps have yet they haven't. Clearly that was a deal that could be done. Negotiation by litigation failed.
Sick Boy is right. If only CCC had given in to the demand for Average League One rent, which then led to the rent strike, and the move to Sixfields; we'd be okay. Oh, wait a minute....
Again, the Judicial Review judge also stated that he saw no concerns with ACL as a going concern. In possession of exactly the same data Lucas had. So to an extent he agreed with her. Who has ever independently corroborated Fisher's claims?
Should not Wasps now repay the loan in full to CCC, and arrange their own financing?
I believe that a large part of the judgment in the JR was that CCC were justified in giving the loan to ACL in order to protect their investment from a predatory hedge fund?
Now that CCC have nothing to do with ACL shouldn't all risk be on the owners of ACL, not local taxpayers?
Well they did propose a deal that was better for CCC and Higgs than was received from Wasps.
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