If the council have done everything above board as they make out, publishing some documents that SISU want to see won't be a problem will it??
If the council have done everything above board as they make out, publishing some documents that SISU want to see won't be a problem will it??
The problem is that once stuff goes to court both sides will only want to release the 'facts' that suit their case. We've been here before, I think.
I'm all for a truly independent enquiry, in which all sides are obliged to open up - at the moment all we're seeing is the council coming under pressure.
Can CCC see sisu's documents relating to their mishandling of the situation ? I thought not...
The problem is that once stuff goes to court both sides will only want to release the 'facts' that suit their case. We've been here before, I think.
I'm all for a truly independent enquiry, in which all sides are obliged to open up - at the moment all we're seeing is the council coming under pressure.
Don't both sides have to disclose all communications relevant, if not people could see themselves in a lot of trouble?
Don't both sides have to disclose all communications relevant, if not people could see themselves in a lot of trouble?
so basically SISU think there are documents they are entitled to and CCC think they are not for disclosure. Both will have had legal advice saying they are correct I would think. Only way to settle it is under direction of a high court judge. Nothing really unusual or particularly significant in the process, it often happens before a court case. Both sides disclose their evidence to the other side, usually on the basis of what is very specifically asked for and the minimum that is required.
Is there anything significant in the content? who knows. But not releasing documents is not necessarily evidence of any wrong doing at all there might indeed be very good reasons not to disclose, nor will receiving such evidence necessarily prove to be a case winner the documents might not reveal anything useful to SISU. As such it is not about winning or losing for either side tomorrow, its a matter of legal process
Will those documents be in the public domain after tomorrow almost certainly not. The Judge, if so minded, will make an order to disclose within a time period the documents will not become public until read out in Court (ie at the JR).
That's my understanding anyway. I wouldn't get too excited over what happens tomorrow
@SimonGilbert - a question:
Were you 'tipped off' by either party (and if so by which one), or did you pick up this information via the court schedule?
The reason I'm asking is that if you were 'tipped off' then why did they want it made public? Is it just PR? This has been tried before by SISU - what makes them think they'll succeed when it was thrown out months ago? What's changed in the meantime?
Will you be reporting on proceedings?
Thanks Simon
Can CCC see sisu's documents relating to their mishandling of the situation ? I thought not...
No. The case is about state aid. End of.
Will you be upset if that paperwork was never there.They'll do it immediately I'm sure.
Wonder who tipped the Obsever off that the sponsors had signed a 10 year deal when they hadn't.
Can we start a sweep stake on how many people will be in the Sisu legal team. I'm going for 9, I think they'll be taking this one more serious than the Higgs case.
Wonder who tipped the Obsever off that the sponsors had signed a 10 year deal when they hadn't.
I know why SISU are pursing this, but (and don't think I'm trying to be a prick) WHY is it SISU purusing this?
If its unlawful use of state aid, should not a state department like the Home Office be looking into it? The actual people who gave them the state aid?
I relise it has scuppered SISU's plan of getting a knock down price - and I also realise there is an arguement that CCC paid over the odds for the YB mortgage. But if there was no legal right to sell to SISU, then why should it have anything to do with them. It didn't affect any agreement between SISU and the stadium, after all, they were paying rent, not paying towards the morgage.
If you gave someone the money to go and buy a car, and they blew he lot on booze and birds, who should be getting anoyed and want the money back - you for lending it, or Honest John down the 2nd hand car lot?
Lol !!!
Sisu's attempts to devalue the stadium and Acl and you keep highlighting a fact that makes it worth more !!
They could save themselves a lot of time and money and ask a few Cov fans. Most of us know who paid for the balloonsI understand that SISU are looking for proof that the council paid for the SISU OUT balloon stuck by PWKH under Fisher’s windscreen wiper.
That’s all this has ever been about – SISU want to show there was a conspiracy to belittle Fisher (by comparing him to a half deflated balloon) and see the JR as the only way to get the proof.
No, a bit closer to home. LOL, etc etc
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/40504-Ricoh?highlight=ricoh+2025
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