Lord_Nampil
Well-Known Member
To be fair I think that's what we all want!!! I am convinced come mid June we will have clarity off the field, and have what we want, cov bk in cov! The football banter then can go on for ever and a day!!!
While I'm in an argumentative mood - and this is not aimed at you Lord N - I would suggest this is of interest to a small number of people but just turns off huge numbers of City fans who are interested in football not law, finance or council employees
If the council have done everything above board as they make out, publishing some documents that SISU want to see won't be a problem will it??
If they did nothing wrong why are they bothered?
Exactly what rights do sisu have to see private and confidential Council documents.
You're missing the point - if the council have done nothing wrong then there would be no issue in the documents being made public will there?
It's not like they are requesting personal information is it?
I don't know about anyone else but the fact that Shitzu are making this application gives me some confidence that they are starting to panic. Do they feel that their case is good enough without some additional information which may or may not be gleaned from the documents which they are seeking to,"discover"?
I look forward to SISU releasing all their internal documentation relating to their time as owners as of our club.
After all "if" they "have done nothing wrong then there would be no issue in the documents being made public will there?"
"It's not like" we're "requesting personal information is it?"
I look forward to SISU releasing all their internal documentation relating to their time as owners as of our club.
After all "if" they "have done nothing wrong then there would be no issue in the documents being made public will there?"
"It's not like" we're "requesting personal information is it?"
To be fair I think that's what we all want!!! I am convinced come mid June we will have clarity off the field, and have what we want, cov bk in cov! The football banter then can go on for ever and a day!!!
I look forward to SISU releasing all their internal documentation relating to their time as owners as of our club.
After all "if" they "have done nothing wrong then there would be no issue in the documents being made public will there?"
"It's not like" we're "requesting personal information is it?"
Exactly what rights do sisu have to see private and confidential Council documents.
So it won't be mentioned then?
Also calling people names is very bad form. Why do you do it?
Bigfatron, Fernando abuses people online because he wouldn't dare do it in the real world.
He can sneakily get away with it here.
Ignore him, he does it all the while.
Not sure if this has been posted here before but please accept my apologise if it has.
below is the link of the State Aid Guidance
https://www.gov.uk/state-aid
In case anyone are interested while we on the topic.
In the spirit of open government I don't really see why anything can't be disclosed. It isn't a threat to national security is it?
Normally I'd agree. But the idea of making public a discussion which those involved considered private doesn't sit right with me. But overall I'd agree, all government meetings should be recorded and available to view going forward. Might keep people a bit more honest, though in all likelihood would just increase the backroom deals.
I'm very surprised that in this election season, if there is something bad to come out, no-one has made political hay with it. Very unusual for a governing body to be so united on something like this. I haven't followed the local council too closely, has anyone spoken out from within the council? If it's whistleblowing it's not like they could be sanctioned.
Actually Michael they turned their back on them when the final whistle went that night. Promise a trip to Wembley they'll sign then.
Oh bore off Grendel, trying to make out that fellow Cov fans are fickle when in fact you would find the same thing across the country. Football fans enjoy football but generally have more important things in their lives such as a roof over their families heads, food on the table, bills paid etc. A lot of CCFC fans have just turned their backs on things because they have had enough of all this shit that is going on, its no fun when we are not playing in our own city, all the politics and sniping which cloud what goes on around match day. Even coming on here isn't as much fun as it used to be because I used to like to argue as it was fun but people seem so entrenched that they will never change their view/stance even when facts are staring them in the face. People like Torchomatic have said on here before that I don't like things said about ACL/CCC when in actual fact as much as I love CCFC, I also am a proud Coventarian and also care what happens in my city and the people who live in it, which is why I was against things like that Rob S person was trying to do in removing Anne Lucas from office who does good things for the people in her community to people like CC4L constantly slagging off CCC despite the good work they actually do for the people who live in Coventry. But then I wouldn't expect you or people like Torchomatic and others to care what happens to the people of Coventry or the City itself or the council who govern us as much as I couldn't give a shit for the cities/towns you live in. It really gets fucking boring when you and others bring up about how many fans turned up for the JPT semi or the visit to MK when all it is is fans wanting to support the club when they want, which is no different to you or Torch or others going to Sixfields to support the team when you want. Rant over.
Oh bore off Grendel, trying to make out that fellow Cov fans are fickle when in fact you would find the same thing across the country. Football fans enjoy football but generally have more important things in their lives such as a roof over their families heads, food on the table, bills paid etc. A lot of CCFC fans have just turned their backs on things because they have had enough of all this shit that is going on, its no fun when we are not playing in our own city, all the politics and sniping which cloud what goes on around match day. Even coming on here isn't as much fun as it used to be because I used to like to argue as it was fun but people seem so entrenched that they will never change their view/stance even when facts are staring them in the face. People like Torchomatic have said on here before that I don't like things said about ACL/CCC when in actual fact as much as I love CCFC, I also am a proud Coventarian and also care what happens in my city and the people who live in it, which is why I was against things like that Rob S person was trying to do in removing Anne Lucas from office who does good things for the people in her community to people like CC4L constantly slagging off CCC despite the good work they actually do for the people who live in Coventry. But then I wouldn't expect you or people like Torchomatic and others to care what happens to the people of Coventry or the City itself or the council who govern us as much as I couldn't give a shit for the cities/towns you live in. It really gets fucking boring when you and others bring up about how many fans turned up for the JPT semi or the visit to MK when all it is is fans wanting to support the club when they want, which is no different to you or Torch or others going to Sixfields to support the team when you want. Rant over.
This bits quite interesting:
Regional aid and UK assisted areas
State aid, provided as regional aid, can be used to support the economic development of certain disadvantaged areas within the European Union.
On the basis of Article 87(3)a and Article 87(3)c of the Treaty, State aid granted to promote the economic development of certain disadvantaged areas within the European Union is considered compatible with the common market by the European Commission. This kind of state aid is referred to as regional aid.
Regional aid for business consists of aid for investment, or in certain limited circumstances operating aid, targeted on specific regions to redress regional disparities. Increased levels of regional investment aid may be granted to small and medium-sized enterprises located within the disadvantaged areas.
Longford is a designated disadvantaged area, allowed to receive assistance as regional aid, according to the 2007 - 2013 documents, and in the current 2014 - 2020.
So it sounds like they want access to the outstanding minutes of the January full council meeting in which the ACL deal was agreed by councillors in private and also details of PricewaterhouseCoopers’ analysis of ACL’s financial position.
One of these could have something to do with the JR. The other seems like just to carry on with their effort to show that the Ricoh has a very low value. So this would be a continuation of the spin to get everything cheaply. But the valuation was used against Higgs to try and devalue their share which the judge pulled Deering up on. So is this already now publicly known? Do they think that CCC know more? Are they still after this?
Oh the joy of it all
So it sounds like they want access to the outstanding minutes of the January full council meeting in which the ACL deal was agreed by councillors in private and also details of PricewaterhouseCoopers’ analysis of ACL’s financial position.
One of these could have something to do with the JR. The other seems like just to carry on with their effort to show that the Ricoh has a very low value. So this would be a continuation of the spin to get everything cheaply. But the valuation was used against Higgs to try and devalue their share which the judge pulled Deering up on. So is this already now publicly known? Do they think that CCC know more? Are they still after this?
Oh the joy of it all
So it sounds like they want access to the outstanding minutes of the January full council meeting in which the ACL deal was agreed by councillors in private and also details of PricewaterhouseCoopers’ analysis of ACL’s financial position.
One of these could have something to do with the JR. The other seems like just to carry on with their effort to show that the Ricoh has a very low value. So this would be a continuation of the spin to get everything cheaply. But the valuation was used against Higgs to try and devalue their share which the judge pulled Deering up on. So is this already now publicly known? Do they think that CCC know more? Are they still after this?
Oh the joy of it all
If PWC value ACL cheaply it isn't exactly SISU 'spin', is it?
If PWC value ACL cheaply it isn't exactly SISU 'spin', is it?
We know they didn't value it as nil though. You know they didn't value it as nil unless you ignored that part of the case of Higgs v SISU. Deering tried to make out as though it was valueless, but that was only if everything went wrong. All that has gone wrong is that our club has left. This was planned by SISU. Don't you remember the judge pulling Deering up on what she said then? You know, the reason for only offering Higgs 2m for their share as they are a charity :thinking about:
I don't see why any of that prevents CCC from disclosing PWC's valuation. You'd think the taxpayer would be interested considering the council have lent ACL £14m.
I don't see why any of that prevents CCC from disclosing PWC's valuation. You'd think the taxpayer would be interested considering the council have lent ACL £14m.
Would anyone like to explain how it could have a value of less than 14m? How much value would a smaller build be worth without everything the arena has if it is built in the Coventry area?
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