dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
I prefer a world where even you as a civil servant is allowed freedom of speech. As long as it doesn't break the law.
Didn't say he was a civil servant. My point was you have to be careful what you say so not to bring the department or government into disrepute. I'm not saying mutton should be hung drawn and quartered. He has though brought the council into disrepute as a complaint has been made about him. Whether or not you agree with the complaint it doesn't reflect well on his professionalism. Or do we only expect that of football players and businesses?
I prefer a world where even you as a civil servant is allowed freedom of speech. As long as it doesn't break the law.
That is the problem here.
SISU seem to be able to do what they want to our football club and us supporters because they are a hedge fund. But if you work for CCC you are not allowed to say what you want or agree with what someone says if it is against SISU. And if any findings go your way we will do what we can to make you look guilty of all charges.
It's nothing to do with against sisu - it goes with the territory
Whenever I say something that is seen as against SISU there are some on here waiting to have a go at me. And you are one of those.
Whenever I say something that is seen as against SISU there are some on here waiting to have a go at me. And you are one of those.
Given you spent most of the time defending the council about something you claimed mutton didn't say when he did that's pretty funny really.
What is pretty funny was how many of you that tried to make out that the comment was made by Mutton. But once it was shown that the comment was made by Ainsworth and he agreed with the comment it was turned into the normal shitfest to cover up how certain people were wrong.
So you are sticking with your view that the Shane O Connor interview did not take place? You said that didn't you?
Given you spent most of the time defending the council about something you claimed mutton didn't say when he did that's pretty funny really.
Some people are just not man enough to hold up their hands and admit they were wrong.
i just ignore grendel now its not worth the effort to do anything else
You ignore me but reply to one of my posts. Nice one.
Then it actually happened because ACL were going to... So they pipped them to it.
So they could appoint their own administrator
And that's the key point. They acted as ACL had applied to put the club into administration. Had that not happened do you think they would have done it themselves, it ended up costing the club and lot of points and costing SISU a lot of money.
He does thisthat's when you know he knows he was wrong.
Some people are just not man enough to hold up their hands and admit they were wrong.
And that's the key point. They acted as ACL had applied to put the club into administration. Had that not happened do you think they would have done it themselves, it ended up costing the club and lot of points and costing SISU a lot of money.
If only you would put your hands up every time that you are wrong. If you did it would do us all a massive favour. You would constantly have your hands in the air so you wouldn't be able to reach your keyboard and come out with the drivel you do.
Is that forgetting that SISU were threatening liquidation?
Insolvent liquidation if a deal is not agreed was the stated position before administration to be fair.
"Re-enter negotiations pronto or we file "
I know. Look at how many were saying that the quote came from Mutton. When they couldn't fault the evidence that it was a quote from Ainsworth they have tried to reword it.
Or howabout poor Grendel who is usually wrong. And those that are his followers. How much diatribe has been aimed at those of us that said our near term future is at the Ricoh as nothing else looks affordable or looks on the table. We were saying that the finances stood up with the right deal. Even more shite comments came out against it. Now we find out that the person brought in by SISU to deal with that side of things has the same view.
Have you put your hands up for being wrong yet?
Is it a believe everything Tim Fisher says day today?
At that point in time 3 years ago during the negotiations he was the man negotiating on behalf of SISU. He said it as a matter of fact. ACL said that our best offer and they felt he was originally happy with it.
Then they claim he changed his mind , said no and threatened to liquidate the club.
Speaking to Press Association Sport on Thursday afternoon, Fisher said: "My message to supporters is there is no liquidation scenario."
Here's what Fisher was saying shortly before ACL applied to put the club into administration.
Need the point police to be involved what is the point of all these old Fisher comments, are you saying he was always bluffing
Need the point police to be involved what is the point of all these old Fisher comments, are you saying he was always bluffing
Dave was suggesting you can't take the liquidation comment seriously as it was made by Tim Fisher.
Of course some of what he says is correct but the fact remains people pick and choose what they believe. ACL used the liquidation comment as a reason to put is into administration. Realistically SISU were never going to put us into liquidation - they would have lost everything.
What else are you supposed to do with TF comments other than pick and choose what you believe? You can't believe everything he says just as you can't dismiss everything he says. That only leaves the option of pick and choose. What you and others always fail to acknowledge when you use the rather pathetic put down of you believe Fisher when it suits is that 9 times out of 10 what people usually believe happens to be true, the other 1 time out of 10 the jury is usually still out so what is your point really when you and others say it? Seems to me it's just confirmation that you've lost the point or argument but won't concede it so trot out the old "you believe Fisher when it suits" line.
OK lets assume you pick and choose what you believe, for a start then it is far from cut and dried that ACL were correct to put the club into administration. It was their assessment of Fishers words.
However if you looked at the situation objectively it was incredibly unlikely that liquidation was on the cards. Of every option available that would have given SISU the worst return. Why would they go for that?
I've apologised several times on this forum, I even apologised to you during our recent spat! (for my tone not my opinion) I'm more than happy to admit when I'm wrong, that's part of debate.
So... are you man enough? I could always bump the thread but I'm sure you don't want that.
Is it a believe everything Tim Fisher says day today?
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