Grendel
Well-Known Member
It's nothing to do with the law you clueless imbecile.
Sick Boy admits he 'has no idea'. This will not shock many.....
Meanwhile the Law finds in favour of Council who don't like owners of local football club.
Have personal differences soured a favourable outcome for our beloved club?
I'd say definitely. Sisu, always played hardball.
'We batter people in court' mantra.
Who was that supposed to impress???
Probably just Sick boy, and one or two others from the misguided, hard of learning mind set.
Has all this shite affected the club at a critical time, yet again?
Undoubtedly.
You were hardly as supportive of our temporary move as you are of Wasps permanent move were you??
You were supportive then of the 'temporary' move ?
Wasps are here to stay so I'll leave you to fight the futile battle against them.
I'll enjoy the experience because I can't effect anything !!
I was certainly supportive of breaking the crippling rental agreement. IMO we only ever went to Sixfields due to ACL rejecting the CVA - this spiteful, vindictive action cost the club 10 points before a ball was kicked. Had that not happened we never would have gone.
No, people just have eyes and memoriesNever had a problem, I just never went.
Nick keeps saying I had a problem and you and others follow like sheep.
They vote on the big decisions and we vote them in to make the decisions. That's as near as it gets
So Sisu would have paid the rent if ACL had accepted the CVA ?
Your in cloud cuckoo land pal.
You got everything you deserve then.
aren't you blurring the history a bit?Not what I said was it.
If CVA had not been rejected then club would have had the opportunity to get round the table and agree a mutually beneficial deal so that they stayed in Coventry. It may well have been short -term like, not dissimilar to what they agreed at the end of the previous season.
Either way - the money paid at the end of the process was the same amount they would have got if they accepted the CVA. It was totally unnecessary.
aren't you blurring the history a bit?
1. wasn't it the football league who subsequentlu made SISU pay what the amounts owed?
2. there couldn't have been discussions at the time due to the outstanding monies?
3. there were major questions at the time (which I haven't seen answered yet) around the movement of assets etc. between the various football companies involved with CCFC?
I was certainly supportive of breaking the crippling rental agreement. IMO we only ever went to Sixfields due to ACL rejecting the CVA - this spiteful, vindictive action cost the club 10 points before a ball was kicked. Had that not happened we never would have gone.
I went to support the team in the knowledge we would never be in Northampton forever.
What a crock of shit. The rental agreement was broken by the administration process and are we really supposed to believe that a hedge fund is so sensitive that they ran away crying to Northampton because big bad ACL hurt their feelings. Either they're in the wrong business or you're practicing a comedy routine.
Is that not obvious?
I tell you what. I like my local park, it has a playground for the kids and a nice field to walk the dog round. I'm going to get my local councillor to come round my house and I'm going to offer him a fiver for it. Now do you think I should expect my offer to be discussed in a full council meeting or should I just not pretend to be that stupid. Seriously. What planet are you on.
Wasps are here to stay
What part of in my opinion did you miss?
So in your opinion - if they didn't run away 'crying' why did they go? For the ambience?
Actually if you look at Wasps previous moves the move to the Ricoh is following a very familiar path. And as we know both their previous moves saw them later walk away for a perceived better option.
It's nothing like it.
They were renting and had no access to incomes.
They were renting and had no access to incomes.
we will need to rent off Wasps for the foreseeable future
And again you twist the narrative to suit. Using your example what if the market value was a fiver and you offered a fiver and got told to get lost.
The simple fact is you have no idea what talks took place, as with all of us you can only guess. The difference is whenever someone suggests a possibility that doesn't fit with your narrative you declare it factually incorrect when you have no way of knowing if it is correct or not.
For all we know Sepalla could have offered Lucas £100m at their meeting. You're already admitted that if that wasn't tabled as a formal offer it wouldn't be put to the council so if Sepalla did make a verbal offer and Lucas told her 'no chance in hell' we wouldn't know about it.
What part of in my opinion did you miss?
So in your opinion - if they didn't run away 'crying' why did they go? For the ambience?
If they had filled Sixfields ( as TF suggested) it could have worked but they didn't account for fans staying away and ultimately Wasps deciding to move in.
Six legs good, four legs bad.
It's nothing to do with the law you clueless imbecile.
You can do things that aren't moral or ethical without breaking any laws..What is law if it isn't the logical conclusion of ethics and morality, do you have any brains?
I was certainly supportive of breaking the crippling rental agreement. IMO we only ever went to Sixfields due to ACL rejecting the CVA - this spiteful, vindictive action cost the club 10 points before a ball was kicked. Had that not happened we never would have gone.
I went to support the team in the knowledge we would never be in Northampton forever.
What was to stop Sisu buying into ACL at the start and then influence all the rents including CCFC's ?
Even buying the Higgs share back at the agreed price would give them a say on the rent.
Oh yea ... that's what a proper business would do but not a hedge fund.
Err because in their world they were the only people who could rent the arena and by removing CCFC for a while ACL would fold.
By keeping them away even longer the freehold could have become available.
If they had filled Sixfields ( as TF suggested) it could have worked but they didn't account for fans staying away and ultimately Wasps deciding to move in.
No one disagrees that we need access to incomes. Sisu just didn't want to pay for them.
What was to stop Sisu buying into ACL at the start and then influence all the rents including CCFC's ?
Even buying the Higgs share back at the agreed price would give them a say on the rent.
Oh yea ... that's what a proper business would do but not a hedge fund.
What was to stop Sisu buying into ACL at the start and then influence all the rents including CCFC's ?
Even buying the Higgs share back at the agreed price would give them a say on the rent.
Yet only 3 years ago you fully supported their strategy.
Really? Buying Higgs share wouldn't give them a controlling interest in ACL and wouldn't give them any say in decisions such as rent. Sure they could have made a suggestion that the rent be lowered but with no controlling share and a lease in place it wouldn't have given them a strong position to push ACL down that route.
Do you think buying a 50% stake in ACL at £10m was fair to the football club given the price Wasps have purchased 100% for with a 200 year lease extension?
Why does anyone bother arguing with Italia and Tony anymore?
Italia is not stupid. He is just an old ham whose making hay while he can.
Tony is stupid but tries to look clever. He reminds me of Nursey in black adder 2. A sad pathetic figure who craves attention.
Best to put them both on ignore.
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