the rumpo kid
Well-Known Member
No one says she can't do a handstand
No one says she can't do a handstandBit unfair on our Joy that
The judges have only judged on 2 decisions though. They haven't judged on the rest of things that have gone on.Way too cold and calculated response. Maybe to be expected from the years of crap endured but does NOTHING to move things on. Could have said this in about 1/10th of the words and been more productive:
CCFC is, and always will be, a cherished presence in the community. We have read Sisu's statement, and whilst high court judges have ruled events regarding the Ricoh rather differently, we are open to further discussion around the club's future plans so we can all put legal proceedings in the past and ensure that the club remains in the city it belongs.
True, just paraphrasing their crappy response in a better way.The judges have only judged on 2 decisions though. They haven't judged on the rest of things that have gone on.
That's why hiding behind those doesn't explain it all.
Just found the statement.
It’s basically what I said yesterday, nothing’s stopping Sisu building a stadium other than Sisu.
Really needs Sisu to be specific with what help they want, or evidence that they’ve been blocked if they want this to have the effect they seemingly expected (outside of this forum).
The judges have only judged on 2 decisions though. They haven't judged on the rest of things that have gone on.
That's why hiding behind those doesn't explain it all.
Seems like it isn't just this forum thinking more and more that all sides need calling out
Oh “calling out”, that well proven technique for resolving complex legal battles.
Is that genuinely it? You don’t care about resolving it you just want everyone to be called names?
Fine: everyone’s a c**t. Including you and me. Can we get on with getting CCFC a place to play now?
No, I want all of them to be pressured. I don't want any of them able to get away with bullshitting and then gloating about public opinion.
You don't need to try and preach to me about wanting somewhere to play...
Clearly please:
- what “things” have gone on that have been proven?
- what would you like CCC to do about them?
Did you really expect them to go all truth serum and start owning up to trying to get Haskell in or whatever it is you think they’ve been doing? In the middle of a legal battle?
Sisu raised a specific point (they want to build a stadium), CCC said the blatantly obvious about that (crack on, nothing’s stopping you).
Hence why yesterday’s Sisu statement was a load of shit that many on here swallowed whole. And I got jumped on for pointing out.
Have a look over the years, plenty of underhand tactics and bullshit games from ALL sides.
Things like trying to block the butts, the dodgy takeover attempts. The whole wasps stuff.
The judges werent judging any of that, they were literally judging on a couple of decisions.
That's why "we have never done anything wrong, the judge says so" doesn't work.
I'd like ccc to say "we want the best for CCFC, come and meet us so we can open proper dialogue" and see where it goes.
The council leader didn't even go to the meeting, that would have been a start. He's more bothered about an aldi.So basically nothing. The Butts thing, which I’d have liked to see but I can understand why CCC didn’t want Sisu as a tenant TBF, that happens when you burn your bridges with your landlord.
They’ve just come out of a meeting, and you want them to say “come and have a meeting”? Really?
Just admit that there’s nothing they can do. Sisu can build a ground or drop the legals, Wasps can strike a deal regardless of legals. But as much as you wish it wasn’t true, CCC can’t actually do anything.
Look, when all this is over I’d love to see a full investigation. Considering the entire council has been behind the actions (note the LOTO co wrote that statement), and considering how everything in local government has protocols and back covering up the wazoo, I’d be amazed if anything came of it. But still, love to see it just to put peoples minds at rest if that’s what they want.
But right now going into the history just gives more mud for Sisu to throw into the water and carry on the ridiculous situation of the last 5 odd years. I want that to end. Please. Now. For the love of God.
The council leader didn't even go to the meeting, that would have been a start. He's more bothered about an aldi.
Isn't it telling there is more fight from them about that than there is ccfc going?
You aren't going to fix anything without getting the decision makers in a room and telling them to sort it out.Agreed there.
And frankly the “ooohhh isn’t it interesting” shit leaves me cold. Never been one for gossip and people, more about facts and ideas.
If something can be proven, great. But right now I want CCFC to have a future. Politicians gonna politician. We ain’t gonna fix that first.
Well, let's follow Pete's suggestion of emailing him and demonstrate otherwise.Duggins gloats about public opinion on his side when he gets questioned.
I've always found the best way to maximise interest in a sale and ensure you get the best price is to carry it out in secret and not bother marketing what you are trying to sell.There wasn't more than one interested buyer though. They were only interested when it was sold. They bluffed and lost. That's poker
You aren't going to fix anything without getting the decision makers in a room and telling them to sort it out.
While particular sides know they can get away with bullshitting they will. Duggins gloats about public opinion on his side when he gets questioned.
Sisu can go tomorrow and the club is still at the mercy of ccc and wasps.
It isn't gossip, he's more bothered about an aldi closing.
We are gonna die and both sides are gonna say blame the other and then they move on instantly
We will be the only ones that suffer
This is getting very worrying
Duggins is a buffoon, lectured me years ago about the need for school closures when I was a governor and declining numbers, said it was consultation and I stood up and said it wasn’t, he was presenting pre made decisions from the council. Semantics about consultation as I asked could we vote to stop the closures and he was forced in the meeting to say no.
I pointed out the cyclicality of birth rates and migration of a workforce to the Midlands.
Pointless, twat never listens, School’s closed and 5 years later, school expansions at 7 plus schools in the city because of demand.
I was asked to leave, hilarious, I know he was the face to other idiots poor judgement but don’t lie about it being a consultation.
Lied then and continues to lie now or use elements of the truth
So you're seriously suggesting one small Aldi store has a greater economic impact on the city that CCFC and that's where he should be concentrating his efforts?That’s because he’s leader of the council, not Chief CCFC Fan. I imagine he’s also spend more time on JLR. Fact is the economy is all that matters if you’re an elected official, despite all the whining about bins and potholes. Jobs always trump anything else.
Just found the statement.
It’s basically what I said yesterday, nothing’s stopping Sisu building a stadium other than Sisu.
Really needs Sisu to be specific with what help they want, or evidence that they’ve been blocked if they want this to have the effect they seemingly expected (outside of this forum).
So you're seriously suggesting one small Aldi store has a greater economic impact on the city that CCFC and that's where he should be concentrating his efforts?
The Coventry City Council can block planning permission for a stadium?
It’s pretty obvious that it’s not only Sisu that’s preventing this hypothetical stadium being built.
That’s because he’s leader of the council, not Chief CCFC Fan. I imagine he’s also spend more time on JLR. Fact is the economy is all that matters if you’re an elected official, despite all the whining about bins and potholes. Jobs always trump anything else.
CCFC aren’t at the mercy of anyone. They are masters of their own destiny. They could build a ground and no one could stop them. They could rebuild their relationship with the landlord of all the sporting arenas in the city.
They made a big bold move they thought would pay off and now they’ve got to put their big boy pants on and deal with the consequences.
Yes. And then he blocked anyone on twitter who questioned him on it.Was that maton when it turned out the land was unsuitable and was having houses built on it?
Really? So that one store is better for the economy than ccfc?I’m saying he can have more impact in a meeting with Aldi than yet another shouting match with Joy. Yes.
Without looking at the financials I don’t know. Maybe. Last time I checked Aldi pay better wages than CCFC (excluding players) and probably serves more people.
Did you manage to keep a straight face while typing that?I’m saying he can have more impact in a meeting with Aldi than yet another shouting match with Joy. Yes.
Without looking at the financials I don’t know. Maybe. Last time I checked Aldi pay better wages than CCFC (excluding players) and probably serves more people.
Its ok, fisherbaiter will be on it. There will be dodgy photo shop lists put out.This statement and the failure of Duggins, or anyone senior from the council, to attend the meeting when every other party involved sent the key decision makers is a real slap in the face to all the supporters.
However it does seem they have got to cocky, Duggins recent comments that they can do what they like as nobody questions them is testament to that, and people are seeing through them. The response online is overwhelmingly negative even amongst those who have previously defended the council all the way.
The football club should not be used by the council as a method to get one over on someone they've fallen out with. Unfortunately that is exactly what they are doing.
How hard would it have been for Duggins to attend the meeting today and for them to put a statement out saying they were open to meeting with the club and trying to move things forward. Instead they've basically turned round and stuck two fingers up at the club and its supporters.
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