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[skyblue_55]

It would seem that Lampard is sticking with our beleaguered keeper , which also poses the question, on seeing reactions on Saturday, that our creaky defence isn’t that happy with this keepers efforts ?
A Boxing Day goal fest approaches

 

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[gspotgaz]

I don’t think lampard said that - he basically no commented as they were trying to bait him to tear into Collins

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

I can understand why players heads drop in games when the same old same old keeps happening game after game from certain areas of the pitch and this isn't just the keeper I'm referring to.
If Lampard does play Collins then its because he feels that he is the better option not because he feels sorry for him. Its a big call to stick with him but if he does then we have to support him. There's absolutely no point in getting on his back as it wont improve his game.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

'Can I ask you, are you contemplating a change in goal, are you prepared to say that?'
'No'

Why are people taking that as Collins starting? Clearly Frank is answering the latter question, why would he give away any team news?

 

[Robinshio]

he has dived over so many or let them through his hands, I am convinced Oggy would do a better job

 

[Sick Boy]

He obviously meant he wasn’t prepared to say and seemed pretty pissed off with the question.

 

[clint van damme]

Whoever asked the question was right to ask it, and Lampard was right to give it the curt response that he did!

 

[chiefdave]

I can understand why players heads drop in games when the same old same old keeps happening game after game from certain areas of the pitch and this isn't just the keeper I'm referring to.

Its more than just heads dropping, its not being able to play your own game because you're worrying about what is happening behind you.

Was listening to a podcast (ice hockey but same applies) where a very experienced head coach was discussing a team who has a top rated defence that isn't performing this season. He said the number one issue was the goalie behind them was having a poor season and therefore they didn't have the confidence to play their usual game. They were playing with the worry that if they made a mistake the netminder wouldn't bail them out.

However bad you think our defenders are it can't help your game knowing there's a good chance that every single time you make a mistake it will be a goal.

 

[clint van damme]

Its more than just heads dropping, its not being able to play your own game because you're worrying about what is happening behind you.

Was listening to a podcast (ice hockey but same applies) where a very experienced head coach was discussing a team who has a top rated defence that isn't performing this season. He said the number one issue was the goalie behind them was having a poor season and therefore they didn't have the confidence to play their usual game. They were playing with the worry that if they made a mistake the netminder wouldn't bail them out.

However bad you think our defenders are it can't help your game knowing there's a good chance that every single time you make a mistake it will be a goal.

That seems a reasonable assesment though we were shipping goals when Dovin was playing as well.

 

[pusbccfc]

Don't think he gave anything away but I think Collins will be in goal.

There must be something up with Dovin otherwise Collins would have been dropped weeks ago.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Don’t think Collins will start based on saddle but who knows. Think for his own good he needs to be taken out

 

[Alkhen]

That seems a reasonable assesment though we were shipping goals when Dovin was playing as well.

Yeah but I don't remember any massive clangers from Dovin. He just looked like a keeper finding his feet.

Being kind Collins fucked it big time twice against Portsmouth and the other 2 goals were hardly work of a decisive keep in form. I think it would be a bad signal to the squad to reward that kind of display, they need to know it was unacceptable.

No point having 3 1st team keepers if you don't drop a player that's clearly out of form.

 

[chiefdave]

There must be something up with Dovin otherwise Collins would have been dropped weeks ago.

He can't be injured otherwise surely someone would have said something. He's also not looked that bad when he's played that you'd even consider keeping Collins in ahead of him.

If Wilson is Lampards #1 currently then surely this is the ideal time for Dovin. Say to him you've in until Wilson is fit, no pressure and see how he gets on. We've spent decent money on this bloke presumably with the idea he will be our first choice either for a few years or be so good we sell him on for a decent fee. He's not going to develop sat on the bench.

 

[covcity4life]

He obviously meant he wasn’t prepared to say and seemed pretty pissed off with the question.

They questions were idiotic. You have played over 50 games with Rooney right?

"Yeah probably"

 

[Terry_dactyl]

he has dived over so many or let them through his hands, I am convinced Oggy would do a better job

Well, strange you should say that, the old man used to say that Oggy couldn’t cope with low crosses very well. I definitely remember him diving over a couple.
Although that was a couple in about 600 games or whatever it was.
Oggy was great. Until the back pass rule was introduced.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Well, strange you should say that, the old man used to say that Oggy couldn’t cope with low crosses very well. I definitely remember him diving over a couple.
Although that was a couple in about 600 games or whatever it was.
Oggy was great. Until the back pass rule was introduced.

It ruined many decent defenders too didn't it.

 

[clint van damme]

It ruined many decent defenders too didn't it.

And in Liverpools case, a dynasty.

 

[Boicey]

I very much doubt Collins will start. That would be a very worrying decision.
I just hope Dovin can show a bit more and give some confidence to the defence.

 

[fatso]

It would seem that Lampard is sticking with our beleaguered keeper , which also poses the question, on seeing reactions on Saturday, that our creaky defence isn’t that happy with this keepers efforts ?
A Boxing Day goal fest approaches

It's going to be a long highlights show!

 

[clint van damme]

I very much doubt Collins will start. That would be a very worrying decision.
I just hope Dovin can show a bit more and give some confidence to the defence.

A fucking baked potato with twiglets for arms woukd give them more confidencecthan Collins

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

A fucking baked potato with twiglets for arms woukd give them more confidencecthan Collins

They reckon Wilson will be in goal tomorrow, hope not.

 

[clint van damme]

They reckon Wilson will be in goal tomorrow, hope not.

Anything's an improvement on Collins and the lad needs taking out the firing line for his own sake.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Dovin really must be a bushed flush

 

[Noble]

it’s all very bizarre isn’t it, if Dovin couldn’t play he wouldn’t be on the bench available as a sub. Frank is already on the record multiple times saying he’s still getting to know players and that matches are effectively training sessions at the moment. Those two added for me says that Dovin must start next game…surely.

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

it’s all very bizarre isn’t it, if Dovin couldn’t play he wouldn’t be on the bench available as a sub. Frank is already on the record multiple times saying he’s still getting to know players and that matches are effectively training sessions at the moment. Those two added for me says that Dovin must start next game…surely.

I would have thought Dovin should be starting ,otherwise why pay £1.5 million plus for him ?

 

[Grendel]

A fucking baked potato with twiglets for arms woukd give them more confidencecthan Collins

 

[Nick]

At least robins would have run on and saved the shots then over head kicked them from our goal line into their goal.

The bloke asked a stupid question and lampard wasn't drawn into it.

Some of our fans (and the shit local media) have lost their heads.

 

[clint van damme]

At least robins would have run on and saved the shots then over head kicked them from our goal line into their goal.

The bloke asked a stupid question and lampard wasn't drawn into it.

Some of our fans (and the shit local media) have lost their heads.

What?
Any journalist worth their salt should ask about the keeping situation, its a hot topic of discussion among the support

But Lampard was right to give it short shrift.

 

[Para1140]

Its more than just heads dropping, its not being able to play your own game because you're worrying about what is happening behind you.

Was listening to a podcast (ice hockey but same applies) where a very experienced head coach was discussing a team who has a top rated defence that isn't performing this season. He said the number one issue was the goalie behind them was having a poor season and therefore they didn't have the confidence to play their usual game. They were playing with the worry that if they made a mistake the netminder wouldn't bail them out.

However bad you think our defenders are it can't help your game knowing there's a good chance that every single time you make a mistake it will be a goal.

Its not even making a mistake. Its every time the other team get a shot on target. Never seen a keeper dive over or under a ball let alone throw it in the back of the net.

 

[SBT]

At least robins would have run on and saved the shots then over head kicked them from our goal line into their goal.

The bloke asked a stupid question and lampard wasn't drawn into it.

Some of our fans (and the shit local media) have lost their heads.

In what universe is it a stupid question? It’s literally all anyone has been talking about on here since Saturday.

 

[Nick]

What?
Any journalist worth their salt should ask about the keeping situation, its a hot topic of discussion among the support

But Lampard was right to give it short shrift.

I am sure any journalist wouldn't have been gormless enough to word it like they did....

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

FL is hardly gonna come out and say “yes Im dropping him, he’s shit” he’s gonna protect his players and make sure their heads dont drop any further than they clearly already have.
Collins needs to get out of the firing line I have no idea what the fuck has happened to him as last season when we had the good run of form he was really good. Just seemed to fade as the season progressed. Whether thats because he just isnt actually that good, or communication or a fallout or shit coaching we dont know.
But for me he needs a break and chuck Dovin back in

 

[glasgowfan]

Don't think he gave anything away but I think Collins will be in goal.

There must be something up with Dovin otherwise Collins would have been dropped weeks ago.

I think Lampard has just taken a careful approach and minimised changes since he took over while assessing what he's got. Collins was the keeper when Lampard arrived.
Maybe the Portsmouth game is the trigger for changes

 

[SAJ]

That seems a reasonable assesment though we were shipping goals when Dovin was playing as well.

Big difference though with Collins in goal it’s 1.8 goals a game Dovin it’s 1.2 over a season that’s 83 goals against 55.

 

[Ricketts]

Ben Wilson got more clean sheets and the only player for many years that’s won the golden glove.
He is also a big character, which is something we are screaming out for