Their chairman at the time experienced quite a surprising number of similar accidents at his other businesses.
The Story of the Bradford Fire: ‘could any man really be as unlucky as Stafford Heginbotham?’
Their chairman at the time experienced quite a surprising number of similar accidents at his other businesses.
The Story of the Bradford Fire: ‘could any man really be as unlucky as Stafford Heginbotham?’
I remember someone at the time of the fire telling me he went to see a certain comedian and he said a gag in Bradford concerning this incident. I thought it was made up and although the comedian denies it an article I've just read claimed he said exactly what this bloke told me.
It's far worse that's for sure. I'm not excusing this imbecile but Twitter and social media seems to make some people behave like idiots.
Agreed. Hope he does get the sack - for me it's just a modern form of natural selection. Cyber-Darwinism.It is not so much "social media seems to make people behave like idiots", but social media gives them a platform to promote their idiocy.
Yeah it just makes it a lot easier to find. On Twitter you get to discover how many strangers are terrible people, and on Facebook you get to confirm it about people you know.It is not so much "social media seems to make people behave like idiots", but social media gives them a platform to promote their idiocy.
If you are not suggesting it was arson, I doubt anybody would choose to do it on a match day?
I remembered Coventry had a stand burn down at Highfield Road overnight what's your view on that?
Bradford was a complete tragedy, horrific, I remember it well.
It's a tricky one really. I agree the behaviour appears insensitive and idiotic. But to actually call him as you have 'a complete idiot' he might be sensitive to - & say your behaviour is insensitive...& as he might have thought he was just having a bit of harmless banter, but you never asked him, your behaviour was stupid too.
Where does it all end? Anyone's guess!
While the fella has brought it on himself, it seems a poor show from the Telegraph to publicise his name which just encourages internet vigilantes to continue the circle of abuse.
To make it even better
Top flight journalism, would recommend to colleagues
You should at least read the book, or the serialisation of it and then see what your view is.
The CPS did I believe consider a manslaughter charge.
The person who survived and wrote the book did enormous research on the subject.
Yeah I remember discussing it when released. Think on balance it's conspiracy theory, but a more plausible one than many.
Like Offenham says, it was very similar to the Kings Cross Fire, a dropped cigarette on an accumulation of litter and debris sitting under a wooden structure (stand and escalator in the Kings Cross case). Tragic accident, the impact of which could have been lessened, e.g. the gates being padlocked.
I might try and find the documentary. So the gates were locked so people were trapped?
Sorry, no they weren't locked but looked like they were as there were padlocks in situ.
If people aren't aware if what happened, read this -
Bradford City stadium fire - Wikipedia
The TV footage and commentary is quite harrowing.
Oh I entirely agree. Venting such stuff is idiotic. Doing it in the knowledge that you have also told everyone who you work for is double-daft too. My niggle over this is the inconsistencies of organisations/employers/trades. Manager sacked; player reprimanded; journalists & politicians encouraged or respected for similarly idiocy all conducted in the organisation/employer's nameSorry Bazza, I would respectively say in my eyes that mocking an incident where 56 people lost their lives and me calling the bloke that said it a complete idiot, are incomparable.
Oh I entirely agree. Venting such stuff is idiotic. Doing it in the knowledge that you have also told everyone who you work for is double-daft too.
Jesus, that's tragic.I have a mate who was there that day. He paid for two mates to go in. He was the only one of the three to get out alive. He has to live with the guilt every day although he did nothing wrong. He has ended up losing his business and family because he can't cope even after all these years. He saw sights most can't even imagine.
He isn't the only one having a bad time either. Bradford is full of people who have been badly affected by it. Not sure what should happen to him. But there is one thing for sure. There are a lot of idiots who think that laws, morality and sensibility do not exist at football.
He will get the sack, that's what happens nowadays and Bradford fans will make sure he does by threatening to close their NatWest accounts etc.
The Bradford fire. I have seen the complete footage of it during a safety briefing a few years ago, unbelievable really from the first puff of smoke to the whole stand being engulfed in flames is less than 4 minutes.
If you are not suggesting it was arson, I doubt anybody would choose to do it on a match day?
I remembered Coventry had a stand burn down at Highfield Road overnight what's your view on that?
Bradford was a complete tragedy, horrific, I remember it well.
I read that, but then I thought why on a match day?I'm not really one for conspiracy theories, but the chairman at Bradford was owned or connected to businesses that suffered a remarkable number of fires (Guardian graphic shown below).
In adjusted terms it's said he received insurance and fire-related payouts of over £27m over the years.
I'm not sure that I'd be quite so certain that Bradford was a tragic accident. It may have been, but there are definitely strong grounds for doubt, imho.
Just watched it for the first time. You're right, it's truly harrowing. The poor chap stumbling around completely on fire genuinely sent a shiver down my spine.It's on youtube with John Helm commentating, it really is one of the most shocking videos around, far worse than Hillsborough or Heysel footage.
Totally agree. The guy's a knob, make no mistake but doesn't deserve dismissal. Make him do the end of day cashing up for a week or whatever other menial practice they do. Prank 'hold up' maybe when he's the only staff member in the branch. That'll learn him.Oh please, do you really think this is going to happen? So what, a few disenfranchised individuals who have taken great exception to this will close their accounts but this won't be a reason to sack him. Yes, he's been a tool and is probably $hitting Toblerones at this moment in time but I don't think he should get the sack.
Just watched it for the first time. You're right, it's truly harrowing. The poor chap stumbling around completely on fire genuinely sent a shiver down my spine.
Horrendous.
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I read that, but then I thought why on a match day?
That's true.
Either way in pretty sure there had been letters sent to the chairman asking to resolve safety concerns which first he denied seeing and then had to admit he had.
There was a large bill coming.
It's not at all a bonkers conspiracy theory. It's a perfectly constructed case with lots of circumstantial evidence to support it.
The fact the game was on is the one thing that invalidates it. If it hadn't been then you'd say the evidence was compelling.
If there really had been 8 claims for fire related insurance in the past then that can't just be flicked away as a conspiracy.
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