Dropping one place is the start of dropping down the table, which is what I said.
A run of wins catapulted us up the table and a run of losses and draws will see us slip back down.
Think a move to WBA ? fell through. Can't remember why. Toney came on as half time sub last game. Think they are good attacking, but suspect at the back. Really dislike Maddison(probably because he's talented and a tw*t) A notice in advance. We might lose on Friday. No meltdown needed. Lots of games to go!I thought they were trying to sell Marcus Maddison? Always looked decent when we played against them.
Ivan Toney seems like a bit of a handful as well!
Think a move to WBA ? fell through. Can't remember why. Toney came on as half time sub last game. Think they are good attacking, but suspect at the back. Really dislike Maddison(probably because he's talented and a tw*t) A notice in advance. We might lose on Friday. No meltdown needed. Lots of games to go!
He’s played a handful of games ffs! and I don’t think right back is his best or preferred position, give the bloke a break.But Thomson is?
A loss would be acceptable if Maddison gets a 2 footer while trying to keep the ball in the corner on the 89th minute?
I'm not trying to put him down, I just think Grimmer is the better option, more experienced and was one of our best performers last season. He didn't play well on Saturday, but Thomson hasn't impressed massively either. And that was Grimmer's first league game back in ages, so let's give him a break too.He’s played a handful of games ffs! and I don’t think right back is his best or preferred position, give the bloke a break.
Why you so obsessed with players getting two footed?
Especially if the opposition has a ready made pantomime villain!Fans love a good tackle and a bit of strong-arming.
I'm not trying to put him down, I just think Grimmer is the better option, more experienced and was one of our best performers last season. He didn't play well on Saturday, but Thomson hasn't impressed massively either. And that was Grimmer's first league game back in ages, so let's give him a break too.
I thought they were trying to sell Marcus Maddison? Always looked decent when we played against them.
Ivan Toney seems like a bit of a handful as well!
Didn't Posh have a policy of making all of their players available at the end of every season (of course, if under contract, they try and milk the fee)They weren't trying to sell him, I don't think anyway. He was put on the market because there was an 'agreement' made between club and player the season before last that if the Posh didn't get promoted MacAnothony would place him on the transfer list.
Didn't Posh have a policy of making all of their players available at the end of every season (of course, if under contract, they try and milk the fee)
Didn't Posh have a policy of making all of their players available at the end of every season (of course, if under contract, they try and milk the fee)
Only if they only have a year left on their contract.
No, they make available those who have a year remaining on their contracts.
Very good business model they are for it. Worked well for them over the years
I do like the way the chairman operates
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They've always had mediocre support, so I suppose the transfer policy is borne of necessity.
Nouble back on loan for the game?2-0 down at half time, come back and win 3-2. Standard procedure.
Very good business model they are for it. Worked well for them over the years
I do like the way the chairman operates
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Why the fuck not.Nouble back on loan for the game?
I'm never satisfied with a drawLet’s not forget we’ve played most teams on the top 6 and other in form teams like Southend.
Our fan base is particularly prone to exaggeration...
I’d be satisfied for a draw in this game, but with it being a home game, a win is doable.
I agree, to an extent. However, season after season they have struggled to get out of this league. Whilst you cannot pinpoint their issues directly to this policy (as they've appointed some pretty average managers along the way) it's not out the question to suggest that it certainly hasn't helped their bid to get to the Championship. So you could argue that whilst their policy makes sense from a financial POV, consistently selling their best players to gain maximum profits has actually been counterproductive.
Couldn't disagree more in regards to their Chairman. Good businessman but he's an absolute clown
Whilst I’m not 100% sure on how long they’ve taken the stance of any player not engaging into a new deal coming into the 12 months they are placed on the transfer list. However under the ownership of the current chairman they’ve had 2 automatic promotions and also two top 6 finishes with one of those resulting in another promotion, so 3 promotions and the 2 relegations from the championship. That’s near as much success as in the entire history under him.
I like how open he is with the fans, they are aware of what’s happening within their club. I’m not sold on his social media interaction tho so that’s discounted from my thinking, as that’s not for me but he’s done good for the club.
I’ll go against the grain completely and accept the backlash as I like Steve Evans too. Yes he’s a clown, says and does things he shouldn’t but he’s a character who wants to win at all costs and backs his players to the hilt. Generally leaves a club in a far better stable condition than he takes them over in.
A poor mans Harry Redknapp.
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The real selling spree started with Mackail-Smith I think which was in 2011, but MacAnthony has been chairman at the Posh for 12 years, so it could've been in place for longer.
True they've had a period of success but at League One and Two level, but is that really an accomplishment given the amount of income that has been generated from player sales and owner investment over the last decade? Peterborough year on year have one of the most competitive budgets in the league and yet they have had a number of failed promotion attempts and are now playing in their 6th consecutive season in League One. Why is this? In my eyes it boils down to two reasons. Abysmal manager appointments and high player turnover. The income he receives and, albeit generously, puts back into the club should place them in the automatic places at least once in the previous 5 seasons. Since their relegation they've finished: 6th, 9th, 13th, 11th and 9th. That's 6 consistent seasons in a row (including their relegation) where they've had disappointing seasons. Hence why IMO although his policy adds sustainability to the club on the financial front, at the same time it could actually be damaging it. Sometimes it's simply out of the clubs' control when a player wants to leave so it's wrong to suggest all of his star players have left due to his policy. But what he has done is set a precedent that the fans and players alike are now used to. Risky thing to do when you're trying to take a club up the leagues as IMO, it suggests the club lacks ambition - which players pick up on.
His social media antics border on the embarrassing and completely tarnish his reputation. He either lies about what the club are demanding for their own players, reveals confidential information about transfer dealings or claims that he's after every single player currently plying their trade in the EFL or lower.
It’s hard to gauge the budget they have year after year, I’d imagine it’s very respectable for the league but they will never be anything more than a league one club in reality and if excelling being that yoyo club again between championship/L1.
If I recall right a lot of that success came under two spells with Darren Ferguson who like MR here seems the right fit so that appointment seemed to work, the others off the top of my head like Graham Westley, Grant McCann and Mark Cooper didn’t really work out the same as expectations hoped.
I think he’s this appointment right in a proven man, Steve Evans to try and kick them on again.
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Well their budget is dependant on player sales and who is moved on for how much. But since 2011 they've sold Mackail-Smith to Brighton for £2.5m. Conor Washington for £2.7m to QPR. Britt Assombalonga was sold 11 months later to Nottingham Forest for an initial £5.5m. (They also had a respectable sell-on fee when he moved on to Middlesborough) Dwight Gayle was sold for what would eventually be £7.5m. Then last season I think they recieved around £6m for Edwards, Baldwin, Marriot, Da Silva and the rest of those transfer listed. So their budget for the past 5 years or so has definitely been sizeable.
But as I said, you could argue that because their budget is dependant on player sales, as a business model it isn't sustainable is because it's a risky approach to take and there'll inevitably be a season where they won't receive a big paycheck from a player sale. Which will then just result in a "now what" because without help from a big sale they lose money hand over mouth apparently - and they can't rely on MacAnothony to make up the loss because FFP will obviously restrict him from pumping money in. But regardless, I can safely say they work off a top 6 budget assuming the right fee comes in via the transfer market.
IMO all those names are cheap appointments or just the same old names on the EFL manager roundabout. So I do question MacAnthony's logic at times as if he's serious about getting the Posh out of League One why not go out and get a manager with the calibre of Nigel Clough or Kenny Jackett - basically a manager who knows how to get out of this league.
Id imagine they spread the generated income sensibly so not to create the boom or bust situation you often hear of.
I think he’s thought about that and this time gone with Steve Evans, a local man who him and Barry Fry know, a man who has the cv, and the experience to match the same ambition as where they are at and can sustain as a club.
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