Grendel
Well-Known Member
Well my observation is you are a ccfc hating troll just an opinion based on your posting history of course.
Insults ah so you don't understand the difference between, observation 'warped mind'. opinion ' pathetic' or statement of fact 'slagger off'
I've said you would as one of the wise men.Bollocks. Lots remember you saying it. I certainly do.
Here come the insults as they always do when you get caught out bullshitting. Are they supposed to hurt? All they do is show you to be the childish idiot we all know you can be.I'm sure the three wise men - Obtuse, council Fart and SBK will be those posters who agree.
Could anyone disagree that you act like a SISU bitch?Well my observation is you are a ccfc hating troll just an opinion based on your posting history of course.
Well my observation is you are a ccfc hating troll just an opinion based on your posting history of course.
Here come the insults as they always do when you get caught out bullshitting. Are they supposed to hurt? All they do is show you to be the childish idiot we all know you can be.
Zero evidence?It's you making accusations regarding what I said with zero evidence - not me
But if you're being milked for every penny to the point its virtually impossible to turn a profit whats the point? The hospitality is a prime example. Make the club pay practically retail price and pay for all covers required or not. Would be very surprised if there's not numerous matches this season where we actually lose money by offering hospitality.
'Put on events' gets thrown around as if its a guaranteed money maker. Its an incredibly tough competitive business where 1 underperforming event can wipe out numerous successful events. You tip the balance a bit the other way when you get F&B, get hire costs for events other put on etc.
Zero evidence?
Just about everyone that was using this site when you said it will remember. And then at a later date youtried to say that you never said it. So I found it and showed it on the thread. And as usual when someone proves you to be bullshitting you then kept away from that thread.
I certainly read that from Grendel, but as usual he wants evidenceYou said they would lose the JR on purpose :wacky:
The treatment receiving at the Ricoh is exactly the reason its not taking place there and instead at the Butts.So if it is such a risk or bad idea why are the club looking at a joint venture to do such things at BPA.
Its competitive because there is far more venues than there are events that can fill them so in order to attract the events that will bring people in you have to make your offering more attractive. Hence why there is such a high turnover of events management companies and venues. Its a huge step from local small scale events that will make you a few quid to running an events co that will have any significant positive impact on the bottom line.If such set ups are fraught with risk and losses why do so many organisations/people do it. Why is it so competitive
But you'd get increased incomes from secondary revenue streams. Its the same argument as there is in general for stadium ownership. We pay out to hire on a matchday, pay costs, buy in hospitality etc at retail but only get ticket money. Would be the same for other events, I would hope a JV will mean we can put on events at the Butts and gain access to some of those revenue streams.If we owned our own stadium there would still be significant costs to cover and risks of failure
I think G has been looking at the dictionary tonight.please point out my plethora of insults at your suggestion. I am interested to see where the insults are
So if it is such a risk or bad idea why are the club looking at a joint venture to do such things at BPA. Crfc will want their costs covered before profits are split. It might be belated but if it's true I view it as something positive
A joint venture spreads the risk/loss potential but it also spreads the rewards/ return.
There is another benefit - actually being seen to be active by the local and business communities - drawing potential opportunities for other incomes.
If a source doesn't work don't do it - you manage it rather than a throw mud at a wall approach. Are there reasons for doing some things knowing that despite not greatly profitable there are other rewards.
If such set ups are fraught with risk and losses why do so many organisations/people do it. Why is it so competitive
Get someone in who knows what they are doing, franchise it out if necessary, pay based on results whatever.but don't sit there and say we need other incomes and do nothing.
If we owned our own stadium there would still be significant costs to cover and risks of failure
Or we carry on with what is and the success that is.
Different thread. The one you are looking for is much bigger IIRC. This one has Grendel saying that the SISU investors are happy because they are collecting interest payments though :woot::smuggrin:http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/appeal-decision.47288/page-2
Possibly featuring on pages 2 and 3 a suggestion that court cases were lost on purpose.
I certainly read that from Grendel, but as usual he wants evidencethe very man that backs up very little of his own statements. Who has the time to back up something you have said by sifting through your 30,000 posts :banghead:
Anyone with nearly 30,000 posts on here, has too much time on their hands
I still think we will end up at the Ricoh eventually but under the ownership of a moon stone related company.
I think the real battle going on here is them waiting for CCFC to go into admin. Yet SISU are trying to get us to breakeven to say this is costing us nothing we can sit here for years. You need to bid and put your best bid in.
It's a case of who blinks first. If Moonstones business model can survive without CCFC. SISU will eventually have to give up as their business model of breakeven isn't plausible long term.
I wasn't talking about a new stadium/BPA, i was talking about the events that CCFC and CRFC have been exploring putting on jointly outside of that (IIRC they may have already done some). Surely that is good news that the club are trying to do something and working in partnership with CRFC? Again absolutely nothing to do with BPA/new stadium.
But hey ho, at least you got a couple of 'likes'
http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/appeal-decision.47288/page-2
Possibly featuring on pages 2 and 3 a suggestion that court cases were lost on purpose.
Ironically in that thread Grendel talks about dropping legal action as part of negotiations.
Hilarious example of complete hypocrisy where on other threads when it suits he says dropping legal action should not be requested as part of negotiations
Funny the bloke can't lie straight in bed.
No credibility changes whatever point of view his has in desperation to try and win any debate
Here come the insults as they always do when you get caught out bullshitting. Are they supposed to hurt? All they do is show you to be the childish idiot we all know you can be.
No that's not true - find a link and prove it Tony
So; you're arguing against Fisher's point? You're saying that joint events - such as the existing ones between CRFC and CCFC - or initiatives remote from either the BPA (or The Ricoh, for that matter) are the way forward?
Or you agree with my point that any initiatives with CRFC that are tied to the BPA - given the rugby club's rightful priority - will enrich the rugby club as much as CCFC?!? So, the only choice is which of the rugby clubs currently playing in the city you're filling the coffers of
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