They won’t win if we keep going and refusing to accept their nonsenseYou need to look back at the late eighties, have a look at the average gates of even the top teams. Football was on its knees and one of the biggest contributing factors was the type of moronic behaviour lots of us witnessed yesterday. We were trying to leave after the game yesterday with my 6 year old granddaughter but couldn’t walk around the fence because of the morons on the hill. It’s nothing to do with the football and I would think that what they saw yesterday will make some people wonder do they want to come and watch again. We’ll be losing the decent fans but keeping the idiots.
Lifetime ban for what? Where is your line on these issues, Pete?Sorry lifetime ban ok with me
Yep they need to give some answers but don’t forget who’s to blame here. Hundreds of grown men who can’t control their shit
"A full investigation is under way in partnership with the club and those found to have taken part in the disorder face prosecution and a lifetime ban from matches."Lifetime ban for what? Where is your line on these issues, Pete?
Being within 20 yards of it kicking off? Loitering with intent? Swinging a punch and missing? Being punched?
People in town don't always get locked up for a scrap let alone banned forever more from the City centre.
As I said in my post above those organising the trouble or going armed and dangerous I want no where near me and my loved ones. A scrap between a few drunks that is a short ban maybe but for life feels a little totalitarian.
I'm not condoning yesterday but it was nothing like the 80s, not even close thankfully.
Slippery slope and it was pretty uglyYeah it is stupid to compare it to the 80s, it's not even as bad as 2001
"A full investigation is under way in partnership with the club and those found to have taken part in the disorder face prosecution and a lifetime ban from matches."
Seems clear enough
Yep they need to give some answers but don’t forget who’s to blame here. Hundreds of grown men who can’t control their shit
Yep, dogs were definitely barking with a cockney twangIm sure they were Met police and dogs
And I know a lad banned from football who was arrested and locked up to appear in court on the following Monday for being less than a mile from the ground when a game was on.You didn't answer his question and no it's not clear at all
It's the dibble trying to distract from their own failings.
Would you be ok with someone who is having a drink in th Cherry Tree and then has to defend themselves from being attacked getting a life ban?
Anyway banning orders mean fuck all, I know a couple of lads who went home and away when on a ban.
You need to be more Christian and forgiving ;-)Sorry lifetime ban ok with me
Slippery slope and it was pretty ugly
And I know a lad banned from football who was arrested and locked up to appear in court on the following Monday for being less than a mile from the ground when a game was on.
I think the correct response should be 'home to a shithole, you're going home to a shithole'well I sang back.
The stations up there the stations up there why dont u fuck off the stations just there.
Did get a cheer from a few
Raff Raff!Yep, dogs were definitely barking with a cockney twang
Anyone guilty of affrayYou didn't answer his question and no it's not clear at all
It's the dibble trying to distract from their own failings.
Would you be ok with someone who is having a drink in th Cherry Tree and then has to defend themselves from being attacked getting a life ban?
Anyway banning orders mean fuck all, I know a couple of lads who went home and away when on a ban.
Not for me mate too harshSorry lifetime ban ok with me
True I should.You need to be more Christian and forgiving ;-)
What’s a Pearl clutching twat?It's happened once in years lets get fucking real here
they only slippery slope is the one to being a pearl clutching twat
Anyway nice to see you want Cov Fans given life bans for anything to do with that
See this is where I’m always challenged on the effect and impact. I probably agree life time too much especially if it’s not able to be policed but no one would disagree with strong consequences for negatively affecting children in other contexts why not this? Loads of people pretty upset seeing fighting and blood and coins and bottles and worse being thrownNot for me mate too harsh
Well I know what a pearl necklace is so I can only assume artificial inseminationWhat’s a Pearl clutching twat?
Raff Raff!
You sound you seem the aggro yesterday some indiscriminate as okay, just a one off. Football has lifted itself off the floor in recent years from the 70s/80s, were you around then ? Me and my grandson went to Blackburn and Preston last week was able to go to eating places with colours on safely in the old days any fan with colours was fair game for a knuckle sandwich or worse.It's happened once in years lets get fucking real here
they only slippery slope is the one to being a pearl clutching twat
Anyway nice to see you want Cov Fans given life bans for anything to do with that
You sound you seem the aggro yesterday some indiscriminate as okay, just a one off. Football has lifted itself off the floor in recent years from the 70s/80s, were you around then ? Me and my grandson went to Blackburn and Preston last week was able to go to eating places with colours on safely in the old days any fan with colours was fair game for a knuckle sandwich or worse.
What’s a Pearl clutching twat?
You sound you seem the aggro yesterday some indiscriminate as okay, just a one off. Football has lifted itself off the floor in recent years from the 70s/80s, were you around then ? Me and my grandson went to Blackburn and Preston last week was able to go to eating places with colours on safely in the old days any fan with colours was fair game for a knuckle sandwich or worse.
And in this context?
No...but this isn't the 80s and that doesn't make shit like yesterday alright for families wanting to take their kids to a match.
I know there's a few that see this differently to me but I don't care. I feel strongly about the safety of my family when I take them to football and I don't want my lad seeing shit like that.
From this thread Derby fans were lairy on the trains and outside the ground yesterday. If our fans acted the same way at Preston and Blackburn they would have found some obliging locals
The aggro of the 70s & 80s started some where and soon grew almost out of control, which is why those caught arrested and charged should be made examples off, would I ban them definitely maybe not a lifetime ban but a good few years. Would act as a good deterrent, throwing objects such as coins can blind ffs!When was the last tie there was full on trouble in the ground at a Cov game before Saturday? You are trying to paint a picture where this happens every week.
I've also not said it's ok have i so let's keep it truthful.
If I was any fan involved in that trouble inside or outside the stadium I’d be very concerned there might be an early knock on the door one Sunday. I’ve seen various phone snippets on YouTube and anyone swinging a punch or seen throwing a bottle on camera is vulnerable. There was atleast one drone being used and those cctv cameras in the ground can pick out a pimple on your chin. I know a cop who goes through cctv for all sorts of incidents not just football and I know he and his department will trawl through the films and identify as many as possible. They will get nicked and a good chance of going down, authorities make examples to deter others. Remember the Portsmouth scrap at HR and the one at the Man City FA Cup tie most got jailed. Some one said the guy in the grey track suit got released, no he hasn’t, been in police custody to appear in court Monday, that doesn’t sound good for him in my opinion.
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