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shepardo01 said:

I don't understand why people are confident that we'll stay up, and assume that we'll just pick up wins against Wycombe, Rotherham etc.
Watching our recent games heavily suggests otherwise.
I'm deeply concerned and very sad.

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Not when we watched the Brentford game in fact this site was rather buoyant a couple of weeks ago.

Magwitch1 said:

Not when we watched the Brentford game in fact this site was buoyant a couple of weeks ago.

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Yes, but Let's be honest.... a blip in form!....

shepardo01 said:

Yes, but Let's be honest.... a blip in form!....

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Yep seems like it. Lots of others struggling around us though aren’t they. Huddersfield, brum, us, Wednesday and Rotherham are in terrible form and Blackburn

Nick said:

The obsession with opposition benches is fucking weird.

Yeah they have better players, even more reason to replace our tired shitter ones towards the end.

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Not an obsession just an observation on where we need to improve

stevefloyd said:

Substitutes

• 1Marosi
• 8Allen
• 10Jobello
• 12Gyökeres
• 14Sheaf
• 16Pask
• 20Bakayoko
• 25James
• 26Shipley

Which sub do you think he could have used to alter/improve our game? Obviously he used James but no one else there screams at you

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Players were clearly spent. Biamou, Dabo, McCallum, even O'Hare. Tired players make errors, physically and mentally. They're unable to close down as quickly.

Maybe those players on the bench weren't good enough to win us the game, but they could've been fresh enough to stop us losing it. We could all see that Boro winner coming but by doing nothing we just let it happen. Now we've lost that game and got an exhausted first team to go into the crucial match vs Derby.

shepardo01 said:

I don't understand why people are confident that we'll stay up, and assume that we'll just pick up wins against Wycombe, Rotherham etc.
Watching our recent games heavily suggests otherwise.
I'm deeply concerned and very sad.

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I said I wouldn't get worried until March was over and I stick by that but next three games are absolutely crucial. Need to win two of them and not lose any cos not only are they winnable games but would also give points to our rivals. Anything less than that and we're in trouble cos April onwards are a tough run of fixtures and if anything we'd be hoping for some middle table teams who've taken their foot of the gas.

The next three are all winnable IF we approach them in the right mindset - aiming to go out and win not saying a draw will be an OK result. Annoying thing is when we play like that we look like a team that can do OK at this level, but for some reason we don't and MR makes them play within themselves as if they're not good enough. That's just going to add doubt into their own abilities and make them more worried they'll make an error, thus increasing the likelihood they will.

Make them believe in themselves. When we've left a point or two points on the pitch say it's disappointing because we're capable of more. Don't just say "well, it's Ok because they're a Championship team and we're just finding our feet at this level and these players have had to step up a level". We're here because we earned the right to be here. Those players showed they were too good for the level below so treat them as Championship players, not League 1 ones having a jolly day out.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:

I said I wouldn't get worried until March was over and I stick by that but next three games are absolutely crucial. Need to win two of them and not lose any cos not only are they winnable games but would also give points to our rivals. Anything less than that and we're in trouble cos April onwards are a tough run of fixtures and if anything we'd be hoping for some middle table teams who've taken their foot of the gas.

The next three are all winnable IF we approach them in the right mindset - aiming to go out and win not saying a draw will be an OK result. Annoying thing is when we play like that we look like a team that can do OK at this level, but for some reason we don't and MR makes them play within themselves as if they're not good enough. That's just going to add doubt into their own abilities and make them more worried they'll make an error, thus increasing the likelihood they will.

Make them believe in themselves. When we've left a point or two points on the pitch say it's disappointing because we're capable of more. Don't just say "well, it's Ok because they're a Championship team and we're just finding our feet at this level and these players have had to step up a level". We're here because we earned the right to be here. Those players showed they were too good for the level below so treat them as Championship players, not League 1 ones having a jolly day out.

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From memory we're at the point in the season where previously in earlier campaigns he's let them off the leash more to make the push.
I hope he does it now.
I'm not confident and really haven't been for a minimum ten games.

Surprised no one mentioned the interview he gave to the ‘official’ CCFC media team.

Mark Robins felt his side needed more “quality” in the final third after the Sky Blues lost late on against Middlesbrough at St Andrew’s on Tuesday night.

City matched their opponents for the majority of the game and took the lead through an own goal only for George Saville to snatch a late winner for Neil Warnock’s side.

The manager felt his team were too direct in the first half and succumbed to the pressure Middlesbrough put the Sky Blues under in the second period.

Robins said: “We ended up not getting the balance right in the first-half, the way we play, we went too long, even though we went a goal up, you want to try and control the game a little bit.

“They’ve got quality players, the way they play they put you under massive pressure, they try and grind you down and grind results out with their aggressive positions that they take up, the quality that they have and the pace that they’ve got.

“They get you in positions that you don’t necessarily want to be in and they build the pressure that way which is what happened at the end.

“We dealt with everything, they’ve not created a great deal other than the goal in the first half, we’ve gone too direct at times, but when you’re going direct you have to go direct with a bit of quality.

“Unfortunately, we’ve succumbed to the pressure they were able to build, we’ve got to put that to bed now, it’s a big game on Saturday for us.”

Despite the defeat Robins felt his side were the better team in the second-half and was pleased with the impact Matty James had on the game.

“There’s some things that we did in the second-half where I thought we were better and in more control of the game which was ironic because they ended up getting the winner and it was a horrific goal.

“The changes that they made enabled that because of the quality and pace that they’ve got, they’re Premier League quality players, to give them a little bit of a boost, but we still looked like we were the ones that were going to get the win.

“When Matty James came on I thought he got control of the game and we started to create a little bit more and were more of a force and a threat, the quality was just lacking from time to time.”

The bit about the players ignoring instruction and going long was revealing-the back three (whoever they are) have been doing it for bloody ages and they are hardly accurate and that includes Wilson who’s distribution is atrocious.

It’s having the bollocks to pass it into midfielders who have players around them and trust that they have the ability to hold it that needs to be drilled into that back three!


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Fergusons_Beard said:

The bit about the players ignoring instruction and going long was revealing-the back three (whoever they are) have been doing it for bloody ages and they are hardly accurate and that includes Wilson who’s distribution is atrocious.

It’s having the bollocks to pass it into midfielders who have players around them and trust that they have the ability to hold it that needs to be drilled into that back three!


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I think it was more aimed at the likes of Kelly who you could see didn't look confident in getting it down, instead just getting it forward as quickly as possible with little thought (48% Pass Accuracy )
James was a big improvement & Robins said as much.

stevefloyd said:

Just as a comparison

Substitutes

• 3Johnson
• 5Morsy
• 9Assombalonga
• 13Archer
• 14Bolasie
• 18Watmore
• 19Mendez-Laing
• 20Fisher
• 22Saville

We would have some of them as actual starters never mind subs

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The same squad that’s lost to four of our relegation finals recently while we lost to them

stevefloyd said:

Just as a comparison

Substitutes

• 3Johnson
• 5Morsy
• 9Assombalonga
• 13Archer
• 14Bolasie
• 18Watmore
• 19Mendez-Laing
• 20Fisher
• 22Saville

We would have some of them as actual starters never mind subs

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OK used to know every player in every team since about 5yo until recent-ish times.
I have to be honest not heard of any of these players except Assombalonga.

Grendel said:

The same squad that’s lost to four of our relegation finals recently while we lost to them

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Yep sadly

cc84cov said:

We’ve struggled up front all season nothings been done January was the time
To address it we took Gyo in

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And your suprised at that?
He has no money for a any players what do you expect.
Strikers are wanted by every club why go to one that will probably offer you the least money?

shepardo01 said:

Did I just hear correctly that Mark- Jordan Shipleys dad, criticised Robins on text for not making changes!!!!
Said if you haven't got players on there to change the game, at least make changes to protect it!!... did I hear that right.... can anybody back me up here!!??

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Didn't hear but he was right if he did. Whether Jordan was one or not isn't relevant, changes against the tired legs we would likely have come away 1-1. Eg Baka was fresh, unlikely to score but his energy would have pushed them back.